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#51 ed24f1

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 16:29

He wasn't ahead, hence why he cut the corner by going wide. He wouldn't have been in the lead without doing so, IMO he should've got a drive-through for that.


Really?
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Others left the track including both Red Bulls. What Webber did was much worse, he blatantly drove around Button using the outside of the track.

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#52 cardin

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 17:39

Really?



Others left the track including both Red Bulls. What Webber did was much worse, he blatantly drove around Button using the outside of the track.

I don't believe these pics. It would mean some people here are talking out of their a$$es and that is just not possible.

#53 ferrarijon123

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 18:02

I don't believe these pics. It would mean some people here are talking out of their a$$es and that is just not possible.

No it would mean that the people that said massa was ahead would be right.

#54 revlec

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 18:33


Same could be said for Alonso in China when he lost more time in the pit stops due to Massa pitting first. And to make up time in the races the tyres have to be used up, so if a car ahead is too far in front there's no point.


You are talking crap..
In China we saw Lewis has pitted after BUT but guess who won the race??
If you are faster you have to overtake on track.. it amazes me how some ALO's fans always expect the TEAM to help him in order to win races or finish in front of his team mate.. you should think about it.. :drunk:

p.s: in Malaysia before the first pit, MAS was in front and when he exited(thanks to the SLOW pit stop) he was like 12th(i don't remember exactly)...

#55 kosmos

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:06

I think it's time to change his pre-race ritual, maybe his luck will change a bit :wave:

http://motorsport.ne...tual,23060.html

#56 Smile17

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:20

I think it's time to change his pre-race ritual, maybe his luck will change a bit :wave:

http://motorsport.ne...tual,23060.html


Sorry Felipe but we really don't need to know that!

#57 Disgrace

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:26

Still, a bit more of an exciting superstition than DCs lucky underwear.

#58 Watkins74

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:34

I think it's time to change his pre-race ritual, maybe his luck will change a bit :wave:

http://motorsport.ne...tual,23060.html

I would advise the wife to always be there on Saturday night. :D

#59 froggy22

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 13:15

i assume his wife is at every race weekend, if not........

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#60 Smile17

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 13:30

i assume his wife is at every race weekend, if not........


That's what I thought too, it's a bit strange cuz I know his wife isn't always there. No seriously, I remember him saying that his wife doesn't always come with him. I suppose he had nothing else to say this time..

Edited by Smile17, 12 May 2011 - 13:31.


#61 ed24f1

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 14:50

Yes, he really should change that ritual, because he's still one of the unluckiest drivers on the grid! Maybe he should try and find out how Webber turned his luck around?

For example, if you look at his last 6 races, 3 have been badly affected by poor pitstops (Brazil, Malaysia, Turkey) and two others have been affected by, in hindsight, poor strategies (Abu Dhabi, China).

I hope that his luck can turn around soon, because he has shown good pace and aggression this year, and I think deserves a good result.

#62 kryziuotis

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 17:14

He was ahead before he ran wide at turn 1. He didnt cut it.

The word "ahead" is meaningless in such situation. Yes, he was ahead, but he was ahead because he carried too much speed into the corner and because of that he later ran wide. So taking all the things into account - speed, track position, advantage of having inside line, he wasn't in the position to make the corner first. And only because he escaped punishment for runing wide he gained first position.

#63 puxanando

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:28

Massa: “On the Saturday night before the race I always have sex.”

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look here

and then he is tired on sunday...... :rotfl:

#64 ed24f1

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 10:23

:cat:
look here

and then he is tired on sunday...... :rotfl:


Well his qualifying is still his biggest problem, so maybe he should try Friday night! :p

#65 ed24f1

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 15:58

As well as the preview quotes from Alonso and Massa, there's a very amusing interview with Massa and Smedley on the Ferrari website. They show a good sense of humour!

http://www.ferrari.c...g_News_n11.aspx

8:10 onwards.

Edited by ed24f1, 17 May 2011 - 15:59.


#66 Menace

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 16:01

He shold wait until AFTER the race.


Don't relieve that tension until the weekends done, silly boy! :lol:

#67 DarthWillie

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 20:27

I think it's time to change his pre-race ritual, maybe his luck will change a bit :wave:

http://motorsport.ne...tual,23060.html


Well seeing his result of late, at least he has a good weekend even if he doesn't finish the race :rotfl:

#68 ArnageWRC

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 22:05

Massa drove like a drain all weekend.......

#69 BrunoCarneiro

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 23:04

He was doing fine this weekend, nowhere near Alonso but doing ok. He made the final mistake going in the tunnel but it's pretty obvious it wasn't all his fault, the car was damaged after being pounded by HAM two times. It's been pretty hard to root for Massa lately.

#70 froggy22

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 08:32

2011 not going well for Felipe. the effort is there and i think hes doing alrite, certainly on the softer compounds. but his final crash in the tunnel was his fault, probably was desperate not to let lewis through after his dodgy move at the hairpin

#71 Bloggsworth

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 08:39

He's now turned into a footballer and is rushing around asking the referee to give Hamilton yellow cards on principle....

#72 velgajski1

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 16:12

Massa is an idiot and after his accident he is acting even weirder than before.

#73 kosmos

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:20

Chat with Massa today on Ferrari.com

http://www.ferrari.c...uglio_2011.aspx

#74 kosmos

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 15:27

It's live now, go watch it!.

http://eventi-online....com/videochat/

#75 ed24f1

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 15:34

Thanks

#76 Alarcon

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 20:04

Germany last year....he kind of won the race on track..



On Germany last year Ferrari was the fast car. And Alonso was faster than him.


Edited by Alarcon, 14 July 2011 - 20:07.


#77 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 22:17

On Germany last year Ferrari was the fast car. And Alonso was faster than him.

fortunately we talk about racing, not time trial
faster means nothing if you can't pass
or your team can make the pass for you...

#78 dav115

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 22:32

On Germany last year Ferrari was the fast car. And Alonso was faster than him.

Not hard to be faster when you have been told to turn your engine up while at the same time the other person has been told to turn theirs down.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 07:19

http://www.jamesalle...t-i-would-quit/

Came across this today and thought I'd post it while at the same time reviving this thread.

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#80 ed24f1

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 15:16

I don't think Massa says anything really groundbreaking to be honest. Also, his comments are presumably translated, so I don't think it's worth reading too much into his word choice.



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Posted 06 September 2011 - 15:24

Massa nice guy treated like c***by Ferrari and Alonso but lets not get away from reality his wins came when Ferrari had the best most reliable car, under a a number 1 driver who had lost interest and a very large helping hand from Ferrari International Assistance, viewed in this light Felipe even at his best just a very good journeyman driver, look on him as a modern Brundle

Edited by britishtrident, 06 September 2011 - 15:26.


#82 ed24f1

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 15:40

Massa nice guy treated like c***by Ferrari and Alonso but lets not get away from reality his wins came when Ferrari had the best most reliable car, under a a number 1 driver who had lost interest and a very large helping hand from Ferrari International Assistance, viewed in this light Felipe even at his best just a very good journeyman driver, look on him as a modern Brundle


Well I see your point, but firstly, 5/11 of his wins came before Kimi supposedly 'lost interest' (always a favourite excuse for Kimi fans).

Also, I would hardly call the F2008 the most reliable car, particularly compared to the McLaren! Look at Melbourne, France, Valencia, Hungary etc. for examples of Ferrari failures. At Melbourne, there were three mechanical failures alone (Kimi in qualifying and both drivers in the race)! The 2007 Ferrari also had its fair share of failures.

Edited by ed24f1, 06 September 2011 - 15:42.


#83 Ferrari2183

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 16:10

I keep reading that Massa is being treated like shit... If that is the case, wouldn't it be better if he left because, as the article I posted says, he would of lost the teams support.

If anything, Massa is lucky to still be driving a Ferrari based on his performances since his return.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 21:08

http://www.youtube.c...rUJqglc#t=1m23s

From "Felipe baby" to "**** that, Felipe" :lol:

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 00:50

FVCK THAT FELIPE, indeed.

#86 Disgrace

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 00:56

I'm fairly sure it was f*ck's sake Felipe.

#87 primer

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 00:58

Massa nice guy treated like c***by Ferrari and Alonso [citation needed]



#88 kosmos

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 01:15

I keep reading that Massa is being treated like shit...



This is only in the minds of fanboys and haters.

#89 Oho

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 12:23

This is only in the minds of fanboys and haters.


Really, so it is utterly inconceivable that Germany 2010 is symptomatic of Ferrari marching orders these days? Or maybe being relegated to firm number 2 status does not qualify as being treated as shit.

Edited by Oho, 07 September 2011 - 12:33.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 12:55

Ultimately current Ferrari has nothing to do with the Todts Ferrari and has gained none respect in my eyes. Look at their head of the organization. He wanted three cars in the field just like that to maybe have Schumacher drive for them. hahahah funny guy that one. Break all traditions for a personal gain. Holy arrogance.

For Massa it would have been prudent to switch teams in 2010 to McLaren for example. He cant be very happy atm. Alonso is no fun to have as a teammate. Can you tell me a single teammate who enjoyed being with Alonso? Trulli, Piquet, Hamilton? He destroyed all of them if the team would let him do it. McLaren on the other hand didn't fall for his antics and he managed to turn the team against himself.

I hate for what Alonso stands for in the sport. Outside the sport he makes very delightful statements though. Perhaps to boost his popularity..who knows.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:05

This is only in the minds of fanboys and haters.

:up:
It's not Fernando's fault that he is slower than him!
Fernando everytime respect his teammates....what not ever do the teammates with him! It's logic that less driver are unhappy on his side, because it's hard to win him.....

#92 Oho

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:05

For Massa it would have been prudent to switch teams in 2010 to McLaren for example.


Not sure it would have made any difference. Despite adamant denials Massa may after his accident be damaged goods like so may other severely injured drivers, who never managed to regain their former form.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:08

Fernando everytime respect his teammates....


No kidding.... I rather think he did not have much if any respect as such for certain Lewis Hamilton.....

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:23

For Massa it would have been prudent to switch teams in 2010 to McLaren for example. He cant be very happy atm. Alonso is no fun to have as a teammate. Can you tell me a single teammate who enjoyed being with Alonso? Trulli, Piquet, Hamilton? He destroyed all of them if the team would let him do it. McLaren on the other hand didn't fall for his antics and he managed to turn the team against himself.


Of course it's easy to say that in hindsight, but if you look at his situation at the time, before the accident, why would he want to change? This was a team that gave him a chance when few others rated him and, also, he'd done a respectable job against Schumacher, and beaten Kimi over their 2.5 years together, and was driving probably better than ever up until his accident to 2009, he had no reason to fear Alonso.



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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:38

Happy birthday Felipe. It would be a superb birthday present and more if he took the chequer at Monza :wave: on Sunday.

Massa is an exciting driver to watch at times. Especially when he has his good buddy and engineer Rob Smedley urging him on not to "drive like a girl".

And at Monte Carlo he can really turn it on during qualifying and the race.

One of my favorite snippets is Felipe during practice or qualifying [?] this year at Monte Carlo when he was all out. Throwing the car through the chicane and then brushing the armco going into the Piscene and finally onto the curb through Anthony Noghes and the car being thrown around and his great car control. A joy to watch.

He is mercurial and nobody ever knows which Felipe will turn up - like that dreadful Silverstone day in 2008.

And I did not agree at all with what he and his engineer did at Hockenheim 2010.

But he is an asset to any team and given a good car can deliver the goods - it was because Ferrari let him down TWICE that he lost the 2008 world title, and Luca apologized.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:40

Alonso is no fun to have as a teammate.


:lol: talk about understatement.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:45

No kidding.... I rather think he did not have much if any respect as such for certain Lewis Hamilton.....


Those days are past and it is evident that he and Lewis are fine now.

I think a lot of that had to do with that master of team disaster, Ron Dennis.

I believe that there is no way Jense would have joined Woking if Rin had still been team principle. And if Lewis and Alonso had Whitmarsh it would have been different.

The problem for Felipe at Ferrari is that Alonso is the double champion that has been signed from outside and with no weakness in his game.

Felipe will always be the "Ferrari son".

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:46

No kidding.... I rather think he did not have much if any respect as such for certain Lewis Hamilton.....

:rotfl: Like Lewis had for the spaniard!


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 14:02

:rotfl: Like Lewis had for the spaniard!


Inconsequential. May explain why Alonso had no respect for Hamilton but does not explain his lack of respect away. He still had no respect for Lewis when they were team mates, hence you statement retains its "bullshit" status.

From my perspective Alonso has failed the only acid test he has faced with respect to respecting team mates, the others have been lap dogs.

Edited by Oho, 07 September 2011 - 14:05.


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#100 Atomicus

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 14:06

No kidding.... I rather think he did not have much if any respect as such for certain Lewis Hamilton.....


In case what you think was true, Hamilton in particular earned that "disrespect" since Monaco so thumbs up for Alonso there.

At anycase I thought this thread was about Massa, not about Alonso's relationship with Hamilton.