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[Paul Collins]

First practice is tomorrow evening, the weather has really picked up here today with some welcome sunshine and dry roads so lets hope it stays that way now

Heres the link to the live timing dashboard which should become active on Tuesday (Mondays session is untimed) and from there you can click on the radio button and listen to the commentary once we get into racing, I think they also report live on some of the practice sessions

http://ttlive.iomtt.com/index.htm#

For anyone who is unfamiliar with the live timing, you are seeing a feed from the transponder points around the circuit as each bike passes through and a leaderboard which then emerges on corrected time.

[picblanc]

Nice one Paul.

[Paul Collins]

Sunshine, dry roads & some quick times tonight, McGuinness 129mph, amazing when you consider these guys havent seen the place for 12 months!!

Sidecar's went after the solo's but the session was red flagged on lap one due to an incident, the sidecars are currently being brought back to the startline behind the travelling marshals

[picblanc]

Apparently involving the veteran (69?) Bill Currie, hope its not to serious & he is OK.

Edited by picblanc, 31 May 2011 - 20:24.

[Paul Collins]

Apparently involving the veteran (69?) Bill Currie, hope its not to serious & he is OK.

Yes its Bill & passenger Kev Morgan at Ballacrye, no further news yet.

Here's some times from tonights solo's

TT Superbike

John McGuinness Honda CBR1000RR 129.041 (17:32.59)
Guy Martin Suzuki GSXR 1000 128.261 (17:39.00)
Cameron Donald 2010 CBR1000 128.089 (17:40.42)
Gary Johnson Honda CBR 1000 127.717 (17:43.51)
Michael Dunlop Kawasaki ZX10 126.300 (17:55.44)

TT Supersport

Michael Dunlop Yamaha YZF 600 125.464 (18:02.60)
Bruce Anstey Honda CBR600 124.236 (18:13.31)
William Dunlop 2009 Honda CBR600 120.158 (18:50.41)
Gary Johnson 2010 Honda CBR 600 119.820 (18:53.61)
John McGuinness Honda CBR600 119.741 (18:54.35)

TT Superstock

Michael Dunlop 2011 Kawasaki ZX10R 126.260 (17:55.78)
Guy Martin 2011 Suzuki GSX-R 125.720 (18:00.40)
John McGuinness 2011 Honda CBR1000 124.461 (18:11.33)
Cameron Donald 2010 Honda CBR1000 124.447 (18:11.45)
Keith Amor 2010 Honda CBR1000 123.439 (18:20.37)

[tonyed]

Apparently involving the veteran (69?) Bill Currie, hope its not to serious & he is OK.

Just read the announcement - both Bill and his passenger Kevin Morgan were killed at Ballacrye.

Condolences to both families

RIP Bill and Kevin

I am sure someone can post some photos of Bill in action as a memorial.

[Rennmax]

http://www.youtube.c...u/2/13BczYeaifQ

I think it's them at 6:56 and 8:05

I remember Bill Currie on his Weslake at the TT in the seventies

RIP both

Edited by Rennmax, 01 June 2011 - 10:56.

[fil2.8]

Yes , condolences to both families , a sad start to the TT

[Paul Collins]

Yes , condolences to both families , a sad start to the TT

Yes very sad, I initially didnt realise it was the same guy I used to watch in the early 1970's I assumed it must be his son or a namesake, but at 67 he was still out there putting some respectable times in.

Lets hope its the last time we hear that sort of news this fortnight.

Roads closing now and another decent forecast for this evening, will McGuinness bang a 130 in tonight??

Edited to say, if you have problems getting on to the live timing or radio links, just keep trying, they've had a few problems this week, I think its just due to the sheer volume of people logging on worldwide, but it does work in the end.

If the radio link comes up as unavailable just keep hitting ctrl + F5 repeatedly until you get it.

Edited by Paul Collins, 01 June 2011 - 16:48.

[picblanc]

http://www.youtube.c...u/2/13BczYeaifQ

I think it's them at 6:56 and 8:05

I remember Bill Currie on his Weslake at the TT in the seventies

RIP both

Yep deff them.

[picblanc]

Bill in 1975 with Kenny Arthur, RIP Bill & Kevin.

[picblanc]

Bill & the Weslake in 1975.

[tonyed]

Bill was racing before I started, remember him at Brands etc.

Listening to Radio TT at present.

Keep advertising a TT Dongle (are they alowed to say this?)

Also 'Dominos Pizza'

Have these people never visited the 'Hope Street Chippy'

Fish, chips, black pudding, savaloi, peas, and gravy - all this on top of 7 pints of Okells and then up at 05.00 to warm up for practice.

We were professionals (professional what I hate to speculate )

Hanks still going, also Eddie Kiff.

Names that Noah knew.

Klaffi at 20.07.49

Edited by tonyed, 01 June 2011 - 19:24.

[Robin127]

....Fish, chips, black pudding, savaloi, peas, and gravy - all this on top of 7 pints of Okells and then up at 05.00 to warm up for practice.

We were professionals (professional what I hate to speculate )......

Didn't race in the Island but mechaniced (sp?) a couple of times at the Manx, yes been there, done that, bit bloody silly really but we were young and didn't know any better...honest!

Edited by Robin127, 01 June 2011 - 22:12.

[tonyed]

Listening again tonight.

' A lttle bit of a scary thump'

Bottom of Barregarrow - 'A lttle bit of a scary thump'

Like death is a slight sniffle.

Used to scare the **** outame.

[Paul Collins]

No solo's tonight, unfortunately there was a road traffic accident just as the roads were closing, this required the assistance of one of the airmed choppers which delayed things for a while.

Then during the sidecar session which ran first, oil was dropped from Kirk Michael right through to Ballaugh, so they had no option but to call off the solo session as a big clean up was required and time was already against them, I spoke to one of travelling marshals up in the paddock and he said it was a major slick and would have taken a good hour or so to deal with.

Oh well hopefully a full session on the cards for tomorrow night.

Edited by Paul Collins, 02 June 2011 - 21:18.

[Paul Collins]

Yesterday's Superbike top 20

1 1 John McGuinness 999cc Honda / TT Legends 01 46 13.40 127.870 Silver
2 6 Cameron Donald 1000cc Honda / Wilson Craig Racing 01 47 10.30 126.739 Silver
3 11 Gary Johnson 1000cc Honda / Lincs Lifting Ltd 01 47 19.97 126.549 Silver
4 2 Keith Amor 999cc Honda / TT Legends 01 48 03.36 125.701 Silver
5 9 Michael Dunlop 1000cc Kawasaki / Street Sweep 01 49 01.53 124.584 Silver
6 13 Daniel Stewart 1000cc Honda / Wilcock Consulting 01 49 03.50 124.546 Silver
7 16 William Dunlop 1000cc Honda / Wilson Craig Racing 01 49 05.34 124.511 Silver
8 17 James Hillier 1000cc Kawasaki / Bournemouth Kawasaki 01 50 11.01 123.274 Silver
9 8 Adrian Archibald 1000cc BMW / AMA Racing Team 01 50 26.81 122.981 Silver
10 26 Ian Mackman 1000cc Suzuki / Kemtile 01 51 48.31 121.486 Bronze
11 27 John Burrows 1000cc Suzuki 01 52 17.42 120.961 Bronze
12 23 Steve Mercer BMW / W A Corless / Jackson Racing 01 52 24.73 120.830 Bronze
13 31 Mark Buckley 1000cc Kawasaki / Energy Armor Racing 01 52 59.41 120.212 Bronze
14 30 Stefano Bonetti 1000cc Kawasaki / Speed Motor 01 53 07.59 120.067 Bronze
15 33 Paul Shoesmith 1000cc BMW / Ice Valley BMW Motorad 01 53 16.17 119.916 Bronze
16 28 Stephen Thompson 1000cc BMW / T & R Motorsport 01 53 40.54 119.487 Bronze
17 29 Ian Pattinson 998cc BMW / Ian Pattinson 01 53 46.69 119.380 Bronze
18 35 Robert Barber 1000cc Honda / Shipley Racing 01 53 50.97 119.305 Bronze
19 39 Jim Hodson 1000cc Yamaha / AL Gibbon / Pete Beale 01 53 56.57 119.207 Bronze
20 22 Mark Parrett 1000cc BMW / C & C Ltd / Vines 01 54 20.90 118.784 Bronze

And Sidecar

1 2 Klaus Klaffenbock/Dan
Sayle
600cc Honda 59 26.21 114.262 Silver
2 1 John Holden/Andrew
Winkle
599cc LCR 59 37.87 113.890 Silver
3 6 Conrad Harrison/Mike
Aylott
600cc Shelbourne / Printing Roller Services 01 00 29.41 112.273 Silver
4 3 Tim Reeves/Gregory Cluze 600cc Honda / Connole Racing / HAITH HONDA 01 00 41.74 111.893 Silver
5 7 Tony Elmer/Darren
Marshall
600cc Yamaha / Croc a Tile 01 00 54.91 111.490 Silver
6 8 Gary Bryan/Jamie Winn 600cc Baker / Bryan Racing 01 01 20.93 110.701 Silver
7 4 Ben Birchall/Tom Birchall 600cc LCR / Birchall Racing 01 02 02.56 109.463 Silver
8 10 Douglas Wright/Martin Hull 600cc Baker / Eddys Motorcycle Emporium 01 02 07.19 109.327 Silver
9 11 Gregory Lambert/Aaron
Galligan
600cc Honda / Greg Lambert Racing 01 02 21.13 108.920 Silver
10 12 Carl Fenwick/Mark Sayers* 600cc Shelbourne / Russ Fenwick Transport 01 03 21.17 107.200 Bronze
11 17 Tony Baker/Fiona Baker-
Milligan
600cc Suzuki / Cumbria Express 01 03 26.42 107.052 Bronze
12 9 Roy Hanks/Dave Wells 599cc Molyneux / Dorwingear Ltd 01 03 43.49 106.574 Bronze
13 29 Karl Bennett/Lee Cain 600cc Honda 01 03 54.98 106.254 Bronze
14 14 Gordon Shand/Lee Barrett 599cc Shand 01 04 04.15 106.001 Bronze
15 27 Tony Thirkell/Nigel Barlow 600cc Equipe 01 04 17.07 105.646 Bronze
16 25 Brian Kelly/Dicky Gale 600cc DMR 01 04 36.98 105.104 Bronze
17 22 Mike Cookson/Kris Hibberd 600cc Honda 01 05 07.29 104.288 Bronze
18 43 Mick Donovan/Colin Smyth Suzuki 01 05 21.84 103.901 Bronze
19 31 Keith Walters/Alun Thomas 600cc Ireson 01 05 47.77 103.219
20 46 Nicholas Dukes/William
Moralee
600cc Suzuki 01 06 06.57 102.730

[Rennmax]

Seems that there are more RTAs this year than the 'normal' average...too many inspired by the last TT film ?? Even in the good old days, mad sunday was a good reason to explore the loveliness of the isle...

[Paul Collins]

Hi Renn, i've just surfaced (after a large night out) to the continual sound of emergency services sirens blasting past my house, its sounds like business as usual for mad sunday i'm afraid.

Bearing in mind i'm in a 30mph limit here on Glencrutchery Rd, someone just came past here on a road bike at what sounded like around 80 - 90mph!!

There does seem to have been a few more RTA's this year than aversge, trying to get to work in the latter part of last week was a nightmare when travelling on the course roads, they really are organ donors some of these guys!!

[joeninety]

What's the responce from die-hards to ITV 4's coverage.

[fil2.8]

Pretty good , actually , shame they are road bikes , but Craig Doyle and crew doing a great job , methinks

[picblanc]

Yep good job, some good new camera angles this year too.

[dank]

Thoroughly enjoying ITV4's coverage this year.

Lost count on how many times Jamie Whitham has said 'bumpy' though, or should that be 'bump-eh'?

[larryd]

Don't think we need to hear any more about how slow the helicopter is !!

[fil2.8]

Don't think we need to hear any more about how slow the helicopter is !!

good point , Larry

[bobness]

good point , Larry

I think the camera work is superb, especially some of the more unusual angles and the hi-def cam work. The sight of the contortions the bike has to go through is awesome.

For me, it's difficult to make a good TT programme as there is no real "racing". You race the circuit, not each other, so there are no "dices for third spot" etc as you'd get in a "normal" race. It must be hard to make a time trial, no matter how exciting the scenery, exciting TV. Not knocking the event, that's just how it is. Especially now they go in singles, not pairs.
That said, they've done a pretty decent job, again.

Here's to the rest of a safe week for all.

[Hamish Robson]

I think the ITV4 coverage is the best we've ever had, with imaginative camera angles and knowledgable comment. Makes me yearn to be there.

Don't think Hutchy will ever have a great pundit's voice though - that feature near the end of every program is a bit of a waste.

Edited by Hamish Robson, 08 June 2011 - 11:53.

[fil2.8]

Don't think Hutchy will ever have a great pundit's voice though - that feature near the end of every program is a bit of a waste.

Way of earning a few bob , though .......................

[Hamish Robson]

For one so blessed with speed, talent and bravery he is so softly spoken!

[pete53]

I am enjoying the coverage which is generally of a high standard. Some good camera angles at a variety of vantage points which give a very good impression of the dynamics of the event and the phenomenal speed attained by the competitors, although personally I don't find the upward shot looking into the face of the rider adds much once you've seen it a couple of times. Shame about the 13/14 minutes of adverts we have to endure during the course of an hours broadcast, but I guess that goes with the territory.

But, on the whole, a slap on the back for ITV4.

[mfd]

The sight of the contortions the bike has to go through is awesome...
It must be hard to make a time trial, no matter how exciting the scenery, exciting TV. Not knocking the event, that's just how it is.

I was also going to say, it's still unbelievable to watch, like high speed threading a needle and the slow-mo rear tyre at Ballaugh

[tonyed]

Perverse eh!

Road based 'racers' but can't deal with a bit of rain.

Comeon.

As they are road bikes I don't think the roads should even be closed for the races.

Lets see how the modern road bike deals with the Manx 'Wobblers'

[joeninety]

"As they are road bikes I don't think the roads should even be closed for the races"
Like they used to in pratice, close the gate on the mountain to keep the sheep in ? As for Hutchy's vocal delivery he reminds me so much of another local rider (to me) in 60's ace Peter Middleton I believe ITV should be congratulated, it must be a logistical challenge to produce edit and present in such a slick way.
The "Tourist Trophy" was originaly staged to develop and publicise the Motorcycle from a maufactures standpoint, so what's new. As it gone full circle, I think not, changing valves en-route and taking a notch or two out of the belt drive are long gone, the TT is just a way of showing your wares to Joe public and most likely wont influence the boys in Japan, maybe fort Dunlop may learn a little.
As anyone seen the documentary on the TT featuring, amongst others Joey and the fishing boat sinking ? Great stuff, could put it up on youtube if of interest.

Edited by joeninety, 08 June 2011 - 18:48.

[Paul Collins]

it must be a logistical challenge to produce edit and present in such a slick way.

I was walking through the paddock yesterday and overheard Whitham saying to one of his crew, nar thats no good, in the first shot he's going over Ballaugh and then it cuts to him approaching Ballaugh, that'll need changing its obviously a nightmare given the time the guys have to edit all the coverage especially if they dont know the circuit

[Rennmax]

"As they are road bikes I don't think the roads should even be closed for the races"
Like they used to in pratice, close the gate on the mountain to keep the sheep in ? As for Hutchy's vocal delivery he reminds me so much of another local rider (to me) in 60's ace Peter Middleton I believe ITV should be congratulated, it must be a logistical challenge to produce edit and present in such a slick way.
The "Tourist Trophy" was originaly staged to develop and publicise the Motorcycle from a maufactures standpoint, so what's new. As it gone full circle, I think not, changing valves en-route and taking a notch or two out of the belt drive are long gone, the TT is just a way of showing your wares to Joe public and most likely wont influence the boys in Japan, maybe fort Dunlop may learn a little.
As anyone seen the documentary on the TT featuring, amongst others Joey and the fishing boat sinking ? Great stuff, could put it up on youtube if of interest.

Well said Chris, even oncoming milk floats are few and far between these days, what a shame....

[Paul Rochdale]

I first came across the ITV4 coverage last year - they also do well with the Tour de France event - so watch it each evening in awe. The programme is quite brilliant and even better than being there. I've been to two TTs but could never muster much interest in that style of racing whilst my mate (18 visits) would be happy to sit there plugged into Manx Radio following the progress of the races.

'The Motorbike Story' is on the same channel and has some good bits although the presenter seems to spend far too much time larking about for me. It makes 'Top Gear' look almost serious in comparison.

[mfd]

I first came across the ITV4 coverage last year - they also do well with the Tour de France event - so watch it each evening in awe. The programme is quite brilliant and even better than being there. I've been to two TTs but could never muster much interest in that style of racing whilst my mate (18 visits) would be happy to sit there plugged into Manx Radio following the progress of the races.

There is a difference between being there & watching ITV4 coverage, but both have positives. The logistics for TV are difficult, but I've lost count of the number of friends I've introduced to the TT & the North West through the TV coverage. Each one of them in awe & hopefully passing on the message about two unique events.
Similarly a Scottish friend meeting up with a US business contact in Ireland, deviated by the Island for practice rather than going straight on to Scotland. He took him to the bottom of Bray Hill to watch. I just wish I'd been there to see his face as he'd never heard of the TT.

[Paul Collins]

Here is a link to a live stream from Ballagarey, dont know how good it is http://eyespytt.com/

Just announced a one hour delay due to some wet stuff around at Ramsey and over the mountain, the sun is out here in Douglas so hopefully we will get away at the new time of 1.15pm

Edited by Paul Collins, 10 June 2011 - 10:56.

[LittleChris]

Well it finally kicked off at 5.15. Listened on Manx Radio and used the brilliant TT Live plus the webcam at Ballascarey. Feel a bit sorry for ITV4 not being able to broadcast the highlights of such a good race on the day but they've done a great job this week even if the iPlayer was not quite up to standard !

[picblanc]

Senior being shown tonight 9pm.

[Paul Collins]

Well, thats it for another year, (or at least until the MGP in a couple of months) the paddock is emptying now and the roads have quietened down already.

I had the Ballagarey webcam on a seperate screen yesterday, found it quite handy, I was signalling for a couple of the lads so it was another way of checking progress between the start and Glen Helen in addition to the live timing screen.

I dont know if anyone else noticed but On the last lap someone appeared briefly in front of the webcam and did a mooney

[Ray Oldam]

Paul,

That was a scary one with Dan Kneen!! How on earth did he stay on?? I think the camera man jumped out of the way, which would explain why we didn't see all of it.

I assume Dan Kneen is the son of either Kenny or Norman Kneen who raced in the seventies, and used to live in Onchan?

ATB

Ray

[Paul Collins]

Paul,

That was a scary one with Dan Kneen!! How on earth did he stay on?? I think the camera man jumped out of the way, which would explain why we didn't see all of it.

I assume Dan Kneen is the son of either Kenny or Norman Kneen who raced in the seventies, and used to live in Onchan?

ATB

Ray

Yes same family Ray, Dan is actually Richard's son.

[fil2.8]

Paul,

That was a scary one with Dan Kneen!! How on earth did he stay on?? I think the camera man jumped out of the way, which would explain why we didn't see all of it.


Ray

Yes , I haven't seen anything like it , rapid change of under-clothes ASAP , for all , I reckon

[Paul Collins]

Yes , I haven't seen anything like it , rapid change of under-clothes ASAP , for all , I reckon

Fearless young Dan was flying all week, he was in amongst the 'names' most of the time, I hadnt seen the footage from Rhencullen until a few hours ago but had heard about it!!

Ray, talking of the Kneen's, Norman is one of the travelling marshals nowadays, Kenny is still seen around the paddock, as is Phil who recently had a surprise 60th which I forgot all about and missed

[Ray Oldam]

iPaul,

Small world! The Kneens lived in the same road as us back in Onchan in seventies! We met up with Kenny and Norman in the paddock at the 78 Manx when Dennis was racing the Aermacchi. Hope they are all well. Very impressed with Dan's riding - it was amazing to save that situation too.

All the best.

Ray

[Rennmax]

[joeninety]

So bloody funny

[GD66]

Surprised no-one's mentioned the awesome parade lap broadcast before the Senior by Manx Radio : not just the savage set of sounds but an authoritative and emotional commentary from the start line by the incomparable Murray Walker.
Somewhat surprisingly, Roy Moore at Ramsey shut up for once and let us hear them all again, then a good set of post-lap interviews from the paddock rounded it off. Manx Radio were threatening to put the parade up subsequently as a podcast, if so it'd be worth a listen ! Luigi Taveri's Honda 250 four, Ago on the MV 500/3, David Hailwood on a 500 Honda four that he subsequently fired up the road at May Hill, Charlie Williams' Maxton TZ385, Mick Grant and Brian Reid on RG500s, Gary Dunlop on one of Joey's Hondas, Nick Jefferies on one of David's bikes, Peter Duke on a 350 Manx from the NatMotMus etc, wonderful !

[Rennmax]

Some pics here
http://www.manxphoto...-Lap/index.html