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Poll: Should Hamilton receive a race(s) ban? (268 member(s) have cast votes)

Should Hamilton receive a race(s) ban?

  1. Yes (101 votes [37.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.83%

  2. No (166 votes [62.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.17%

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#1 harrows

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:16

Your opinions?

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#2 seahawk

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:18

After Canada I think one race out would do him good.

#3 skid solo

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:19

The usual backlash which will drag on for weeks.
Lewis came off the corner much quicker and got squeezed! He is the Simoncelli of F1 at the moment

#4 weston

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:19

After Monaco, yes, after Montreal no.

#5 Lights

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:20

What the ??

#6 SteF1an

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:20

After Canada I think one race out would do him good.

This :up:

#7 Hole

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:20

Yes, but just one race.

#8 Kerch

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:21

No, but I think he should voluntarily have a hiatus. There's nothing interesting left in this season, so he might as well enjoy a break.

#9 DILLIGAF

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:21

No need for a ban. He just needs to race smarter with less dumb aggression. Hard to avoid the contact with Button imho though. Not that it matters now, but he probably should have got a drive- through for the Webber contact, Webber gave him plenty of room.

#10 harrows

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:22

Four more incidents in under 10 laps! - I think that should be enough to make my mind up.

#11 MrAerodynamicist

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:22

No. He was at fault for the Webber incident, but in those conditions, I think you have to put it down as one of those things. He didn't do anything wrong with the Button incident; he was faster made a decision about which side to go, and found Button closing the door.

#12 macoran

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:22

hang him out to dry before he starts whining about being black, hasn't he looked in amirror ? he is !!!!

#13 Atreiu

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:23

Did you guys miss the chess channel and land here by accident?

#14 ensign14

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:24

I think Monaco needs to be looked at again given McNish's idiotic move au Mans today, if anyone's a danger to the world it's Allan. The Webber incident was a fluke in damp conditions, Schumacher's move on Hamilton was far more pre-meditated, and I'd be interested in seeing a replay of Button's on Hamilton, because it looked to me like he jinked left a LOT earlier than Vettel and the Ferraris did on that lap.

#15 ForzaGTR

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:25

He needs his Dad back. He has lost his head big time. Something is missing, he had it in 07, 08, 09 and for most of 2010. Lewis just seems all over the place, less focused and more immature than ever. I'm a huge fan but I can be honest and say something has gone wrong with Lewis Hamilton,
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#16 Fergo

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:30

Stupid topic.

#17 Anssi

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:30

No.

#18 Ricardo F1

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:31

Banned for his team mate making an error and not seeing him? That would be odd. Hamilton's a racer, he knows he can't just sit behind Button and watch the front pack get away. He made a decent move, his team mate cut him off.

#19 pit5bul

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:32

those voting yes... can you please state your alliances ? i got the feeling this is more a wishful thinking poll than based on what happened today on the track !

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#20 ensign14

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:32

Stupid topic.

No, it's a worthy enough topic. Although I question the initiator's motives...

The worry I have is that overtaking is hard enough as is. Hamilton tried three overtakes today that went wrong. Webber was a start shemozz, on a damp track, racing incident. The second saw Schumacher cynically push him onto the grass. The third was Button's one-or-two moves. The miasma of the Schumacher Rule. It needs a rethink - get rid of the moving rule, make someone stick to the line they're on when someone's overtaking, after all you can get them back, if you're better than them, on the same terms...

#21 krapmeister

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:35

No, it's a worthy enough topic. Although I question the initiator's motives...

The worry I have is that overtaking is hard enough as is. Hamilton tried three overtakes today that went wrong. Webber was a start shemozz, on a damp track, racing incident. The second saw Schumacher cynically push him onto the grass. The third was Button's one-or-two moves. The miasma of the Schumacher Rule. It needs a rethink - get rid of the moving rule, make someone stick to the line they're on when someone's overtaking, after all you can get them back, if you're better than them, on the same terms...


Some how methinks you would be calling for Webber to be banned should the situation be reversed... :lol:

#22 ensign14

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:36

Some how methinks you would be calling for Webber to be banned should the situation be reversed... :lol:

Webber has a LOT more previous. Hamilton has precisely one incident - and that in the last race.

#23 Sammyosammy

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:37

Banned or not. Doesn`t make any difference - maybe next season...

#24 krapmeister

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:38

Webber has a LOT more previous. Hamilton has precisely one incident - and that in the last race.


Ah ok then...

#25 mlsnoopy

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:39

So because he can lap 3s faster than the drivers around him, he should be banned.
Great topic.

#26 speng

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:39

Stupid topic.

Yep

#27 harrows

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:40

Banned for his team mate making an error and not seeing him? That would be odd. Hamilton's a racer, he knows he can't just sit behind Button and watch the front pack get away. He made a decent move, his team mate cut him off.


And the crash with Webber? And the speed limit? And the wreckless driving around with a broken car? I wonder what he could have achieved in the full race distance.

#28 Atreiu

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:40

F1 is moving into all defense is legal and contact is always the aggressors fault

#29 R2D2

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:41

It's what happens when a faster driver is behind a dumber driver. The rain doesn't help. And it seems McLaren's delta readout on their steering wheel...

#30 ImDDAA

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:41

The usual backlash which will drag on for weeks.
Lewis came off the corner much quicker and got squeezed! He is the Simoncelli of F1 at the moment


Haha, good comparison, both very talented and fast but magnetic to incidents.

Lewis will absolutely have to change after this race.

#31 f1fastestlap

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:42

How convenient, a thread started by a hater... :rolleyes:

#32 engel

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:43

No, it's a worthy enough topic. Although I question the initiator's motives...

The worry I have is that overtaking is hard enough as is. Hamilton tried three overtakes today that went wrong. Webber was a start shemozz, on a damp track, racing incident. The second saw Schumacher cynically push him onto the grass. The third was Button's one-or-two moves. The miasma of the Schumacher Rule. It needs a rethink - get rid of the moving rule, make someone stick to the line they're on when someone's overtaking, after all you can get them back, if you're better than them, on the same terms...



So what were your motives for starting this thread then? http://forums.autosp...howtopic=126880

#33 ViMaMo

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:44

He's better than Montoya !!!

#34 Raelene

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:45

f1fastestlap

did you make the same complaint when ensign started a thread like this about Webber?

Lewham really needs to be taught a lesson - seems he hasn't learnt anything - even though he CONTINUALLY tells us he will learn from this....lol

OP - this is a Lewis love fest site, you won't get a fair result

Edited by Raelene, 12 June 2011 - 17:48.


#35 Mario5

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:45

And the crash with Webber? And the speed limit? And the wreckless driving around with a broken car? I wonder what he could have achieved in the full race distance.

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#36 NateF

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:46

Ban him and burn him at the stake for good measure too.

#37 Stormsky68

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:47

Ban? What for? Trying to overtake during a R-A-C-E?



#38 ensign14

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:49

So what were your motives for starting this thread then? http://forums.autosp...howtopic=126880

For the reasons stated. Webber has been a positive danger with his "overtake me and I will crash you out" attitude. That's the antithesis of racing. I could keep everyone behind me at Monaco in a Lada with that sort of driving.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:49

lol thread makes me laugh , seriously ban , Micheal has committed bigger sins & got away , but that is not a excuse , but BAN that's just not right

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#40 P123

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:49

I don't think he would be banned for one incident which the stewards saw fit not to penalise him for (a lucky escape for him IMO), and one incident where the majority of fault looks like it falls at the feet of his teammate.

So ban? No. For his own good does he need to curb his eagerness to pass at any chicnk of a gap? Yes.

Edited by P123, 12 June 2011 - 17:50.


#41 Raelene

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:50

For the reasons stated. Webber has been a positive danger with his "overtake me and I will crash you out" attitude. That's the antithesis of racing. I could keep everyone behind me at Monaco in a Lada with that sort of driving.



ROFLMAO - and you don't reckon that's lewham's attitude!!!!!!

#42 se7en_24

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:50

lol thread makes me laugh , seriously ban , Micheal has committed bigger sins & got away

You mean like overtaking a car on a warm up lap?

#43 ensign14

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:51

ROFLMAO - and you don't reckon that's lewham's attitude!!!!!!

No. Before Monaco this year, name three incidents where Hamilton punted someone off whilst racing.

#44 DILLIGAF

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:51

Webber has a LOT more previous. Hamilton has precisely one incident - and that in the last race.


Webber has been in F1 for 10 years, Hamilton 4 years so it's no surprise Webber has had more previous. But when did Webber last get a penalty?

As for claiming Lewis has had ONE incident? :drunk: :rolleyes:

#45 Jackmancer

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:51

Hamilton might seem like the target to pick on after Monaco - though today's accident was actually caused by Button squeezing Hamilton to the wall.

#46 skid solo

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:52

Haha, good comparison, both very talented and fast but magnetic to incidents.

Lewis will absolutely have to change after this race.


I agree with the talented and fast but anyone who knows anything about motogp realises
that Simoncelli is being targeted by other drivers who quite frankly are just as aggressive.
I remember the whole grid ganging up on patrese and making his life a misery..it happens.
When you break down each individual incident Hamilton has been involved in recently, they can be viewed
Both ways. Problem for him is how many he has been involved in!


#47 DILLIGAF

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:53

So what were your motives for starting this thread then? http://forums.autosp...howtopic=126880


:rotfl: :up:

#48 joshb

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:55

It just wasn't his day today. I thought button could've given him a bit more space and Lewis' move on webber was coming from quite far back.
His interview with BBC just stinks of PR bull$hit, i'd like to know what Hamilton really thinks of it

#49 ensign14

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:55

Webber has been in F1 for 10 years, Hamilton 4 years so it's no surprise Webber has had more previous. But when did Webber last get a penalty?

Webber hardly ever gets penalized. It's the nature of things. Schumacher didn't get penalized for twice cheating to try to get the title (tippexing out "vice-champion" doesn't count) let alone the billion other incidents. Benetton didn't get penalized for software cheating and so on. Looking at penalties is a bit like saying Jack the Ripper never existed.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 17:57

It just wasn't his day today. I thought button could've given him a bit more space and Lewis' move on webber was coming from quite far back.
His interview with BBC just stinks of PR bull$hit, i'd like to know what Hamilton really thinks of it


What else is he meant to say? Putting Button on blast will only attract more armchair experts slating that Hamilton is the anti-christ. This thread is as stupid as the Webber one after OZ last year calling for him to be banned, I think it should be closed personally.