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#1 DanicaFan

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 21:22

Race 8 of 18

Race - Milwaukee 225

Location - Milwaukee Mile, West Allis, WI

Date - Sunday, June 19th

Time & TV Schedule - Pre-Race Show, Sunday, June 19th-3:30PM Eastern, Green Flag 4:00PM Eastern

Course Type - 1 Mile Oval

Distance - 225 Laps / 225 Miles

Practice Sessions - Friday, June 17th - 4:00-4:45PM -Practice 1A & 4:45PM -6:00PM Eastern - All Cars / Saturday, June 18th 10:45AM -11:45AM & 1:55-2:55PM-

Qualifications - Saturday, June 18th -5:45-6:45PM Eastern

2009 Pole Sitter - #6 Ryan Briscoe -168.394mph

2009 Winner - #9 Scott Dixon

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#2 DanicaFan

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 21:25

2009 Race Facts..

Length of Race - 1 hour, 38 minutes, 43 seconds
Average Speed - 138.784 mph
Margin Of Victory - 2.1257 seconds
Lead Changes - 4 Times Among 4 Drivers
Caution Laps - 22 laps for 2 cautions
Fastest Lap - #9 Scott Dixon -Lap #177 - 164.012 mph

#3 DanicaFan

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 21:25

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#4 Slyder

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 21:47

I'll just go on record and say that this race should be 300-400 laps long.

225 laps just flies off like melted butter.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 00:45

Agreed. Like the races at TMS, only one instead of two.

#6 ch103

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 01:10

I'll just go on record and say that this race should be 300-400 laps long.

225 laps just flies off like melted butter.


Greg Moore's first win came here at this track - I can remember exactly where I was, its astonishing really.

Really fun memories of this race, great racing the whole way round.

Also reminds me of Nazareth, which should still be around.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 01:35

****er of a track this, well I remember it being a bastard on Indycar Racing II by Papyrus.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 03:09

Greg Moore's first win came here at this track - I can remember exactly where I was, its astonishing really.

Really fun memories of this race, great racing the whole way round.

Also reminds me of Nazareth, which should still be around.

:up:
Knew I had that close to hand...

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 04:39

Michael Andretti turned around his season in 91 and 92 with victories there. Nigel Mansell first ever oval win after a hard crash at Phoenix. Rick Mears blowing up on the last lap and Tom Sneva took the victory. Danica Bitch-rick getting in Scott Dixon face after the race.

#10 B Squared

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 08:03

Danica Bitch-rick getting in Scott Dixon face after the race.


If I remember correctly, that would have been Dan Wheldon.



#11 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 08:15

****er of a track this, well I remember it being a bastard on Indycar Racing II by Papyrus.


One of the all time great underrated games.

Loudon was the one that used to kill me. I could *not* keep the tires under me for a fuel stint. If you got the setup right you could 4-wheel drift your way around Nazareth. You burned the tires off like matches but you had such a lead it didn't matter how many pitstops you made.



#12 GSiebert

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 08:39

Oh I thought Indycar left Milwaukee 2 years ago, glad to see they're back here.

#13 MattPete

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 13:28

Milwaukee is one of the greatest race tacks in the world. Flat wide ovals are where it is at, not that high-banked crap like Texas.


In ICR2, I had no problem with Milwaukee or New Hampshire -- Nazareth killed me (never liked that track, as it was too narrow)

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 13:44

The Milwaukee Mile had serious organization problems...they lost a NASCAR race due to failure to pay some fee, then they reorganized or something

right?

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 13:53

The Milwaukee Mile had serious organization problems...they lost a NASCAR race due to failure to pay some fee, then they reorganized or something

right?


The promoter went out of business sometime in 2009, leaving both the IRL and NASCAR without their sanctioning fees.
The circuit's officials had to settle the debt which nearly put the track out of business.
Hope that it's all permanently sorted now as it's just wrong for The Mile not to be proudly featured on the calendar of any US-based series...

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 15:56

One of the all time great underrated games.

Loudon was the one that used to kill me. I could *not* keep the tires under me for a fuel stint. If you got the setup right you could 4-wheel drift your way around Nazareth. You burned the tires off like matches but you had such a lead it didn't matter how many pitstops you made.


I was using a keypad so i sucked at it but yeah Louden was a ****ing nightmare. I always felt hooked up at mid Ohio and Elkart Lake but yeah louden and Milwalkie, jesus what a pain in the arse. nazareth i would get loose into one turn and understeer at the opposite end of the track, I could never get the hang of it.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 18:16

All this talk of ICR2 is bring back a flood of memories. My main one from Milwaukee being when I lost it coming out of T4 on my first practice lap, spun into the pitlane and destroyed half the field who were stopped in their boxes. :lol:

In real life, I remember sometime around 1996/7 and I think Greg Moore and Al Jr. going about 10 laps side by side in the middle of the race. Sadly I can't really remember who they were and when it happened.

Great track and great to have Indycar back there.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 21:47

One of the all time great underrated games.


If it's the one I'm thinking about the attention to detail was extraordinary. At Road America's turn 8 the game showed two trees off in the distance as you made the turn, that I later stood under while watching a race there in person. They've since been removed for some grand track improvement, but I always thought if the game designers cared about those kind of things (two trees, not three, not four), that was pretty special. What I mostly recall about those Papyrus games was that I could drive a virtual stock car in the NASCAR games, but was pretty hopeless in the Indycar anywhere outside of Michigan and some of the larger ovals.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 22:04

It's a good week for racing in Wisconsin. Sunday is Indycar in Milwaukee, and the following Saturday the NASCAR Nationwide Series is at Road America. When the schedule was originally announced I gave some thought to making a doubleheader out of it, but for a variety of reasons this proved unworkable. Anybody else, with better luck, attending both?

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#20 B Squared

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 23:05

Anybody else, with better luck, attending both?


I just made arrangements today to meet up with 4-5 of my former CART co-workers at the Indy Car race. No RA on the schedule for me though. I'm looking forward to returning for a race at the Mile for the first time since Greg Moore won is first race in 1997. Always was my favorite oval to work.

#21 DanicaFan

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 14:24

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#22 B Squared

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 12:14

Speedtv's Milwaukee preview:

http://auto-racing.s...lwaukee-preview

#23 Myrvold

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 14:12

26 drivers, now it looks more like it...

#24 LoPresti

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 15:33

This will be a great weekend for racing for sure - very excited that we are finally at a track where the drivers ability will have much effect on the outcome.

Also - I just have to share this.

http://www.ibj.com/t...RAMS/post/27778

From the article - specifically from Tony George:

“I didn’t start the split, I helped end it,” he said.


“I am disappointed Randy hasn’t sought my counsel on things I am well informed on, but wastes no time seeking the counsel of people like Robin Miller,”


On the sale of IMS:

“If they are contemplating it, I would be disappointed if they didn’t offer me an opportunity to get in on the bidding.”


This guy is looking for a comeback and I think it can only happen if he buys the speedway altogether - which I have no idea how he would finance that.

I don't think for a second - and even if Bernard were to ever step down, would Tony be offered the post again.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 15:54

Well obviously Tony George got great advice from Curt Cavin. He started it and he ended it. Sorry just a quick one.

Very excited to get back to Milwaukee. Love watching races from there. I think Texas shouldn't be so close to Indy 500. I think Eddie G likes it after Indy because he gets the pop for ticket sales. I think they will need to move this event to later in the year since it is a big event on the Indy schedule and it would help to spread them out.

#26 jonpollak

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 20:58

Well obviously Tony George got great advice from Curt Cavin. He started it and he ended it. Sorry just a quick one.

Very excited to get back to Milwaukee. Love watching races from there. I think Texas shouldn't be so close to Indy 500. I think Eddie G likes it after Indy because he gets the pop for ticket sales. I think they will need to move this event to later in the year since it is a big event on the Indy schedule and it would help to spread them out.


It used to be the week right after Indy..
That was a better idea if you ask me.

Last time I went to MilwMile it was a ChampCar race and from what I hear my hysterical thread from that event is gone... :cry:
Oh well..You can imagine right?
Jp

#27 DanicaFan

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 22:55

Practice Session 1 Results..
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Posted 17 June 2011 - 23:05

Here is the qualifying order for tomorrow..

1. #27 Mike Conway
2. #38 Graham Rahal
3. #26 Marco Andretti
4. #24 Ana Beatriz
5. #83 Charlie Kimball
6. #7 Danica Patrick
7. #2 Oriol Servia
8. #06 James Hinchcliffe
9. #34 Sebastian Saavedra
10. #18 James Jakes
11. #82 Tony Kanaan
12. #22 Justin Wilson
13. #78 Simona De Silvestro
14. #14 Vitor Meira
15. #4 JR Hildebrand
16. #9 Scott Dixon
17. #67 Ed Carpenter
18. #59 EJ Viso
19. #5 Takuma Sato
20. #28 Ryan Hunter-Reay
21. #10 Dario Franchitti
22. #12 Will Power
23. #6 Ryan Briscoe
24. #19 Alex Lloyd
25. #3 Helio Castroneves
26. #77 Alex Tagliani


#29 William Hunt

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 00:36

I was surprised by Ana Beatriz pace today. Carpenter and Tagliani will do a lot better on Saturday.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 01:45

I was surprised by Ana Beatriz pace today.

Don't be...She is class.
Jp


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Posted 18 June 2011 - 05:39

It used to be the week right after Indy..
That was a better idea if you ask me.


Eddie Gossage at TMS basically demanded the date after the 500. Until this year The Mile hasn't exactly been on very stable ground and even now I don't know that it's not out of the woods. Long term TMS/SMI will be a stronger partner for the series.


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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:16

Still debating on whether to make the approximately 5 hour trip up to the track for the race tomorrow. The weather is looking a bit questionable, the start time is way too late (imo). Chicago residents that own property or escape to Wisconsin for the weekend also help create a Sunday evening traffic backup that makes it a virtual "parking lot" from Milwaukee to Merrilville, IN. I know that the start time is for television, but it would be nice if the tracks and the series would show more consideration for we who actually spend the time, money and effort to attend the races.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:23

I haven't lived in America for a while, but remind me if there are major sports running on Saturday afternoons? You can't run anything in Europe in that time period because that's when football/soccer is always on. But wouldn't it be better for everyone to have races on Saturday afternoon? You don't compete with NASCAR or the NFL, fans have plenty of time to get home, etc.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:38

I haven't lived in America for a while, but remind me if there are major sports running on Saturday afternoons? You can't run anything in Europe in that time period because that's when football/soccer is always on. But wouldn't it be better for everyone to have races on Saturday afternoon? You don't compete with NASCAR or the NFL, fans have plenty of time to get home, etc.


Makes sense to me Ross, plus you would then have Sunday for a rain date, if needed.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 13:07

Don't be...She is class.
Jp


She is?


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Posted 18 June 2011 - 16:19

I haven't lived in America for a while, but remind me if there are major sports running on Saturday afternoons? You can't run anything in Europe in that time period because that's when football/soccer is always on. But wouldn't it be better for everyone to have races on Saturday afternoon? You don't compete with NASCAR or the NFL, fans have plenty of time to get home, etc.

In the USA Sunday is always the "big day" for the major leagues of sports. So for example, football: Saturday is college football, Sunday is pros.

NASCAR: Saturday is the Nationwide series, Sunday is Cup.

Sunday is for the big time pro leagues. Going on Saturday might be not where they're trying to go with the brand.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 17:28

I haven't lived in America for a while, but remind me if there are major sports running on Saturday afternoons? You can't run anything in Europe in that time period because that's when football/soccer is always on. But wouldn't it be better for everyone to have races on Saturday afternoon? You don't compete with NASCAR or the NFL, fans have plenty of time to get home, etc.



Well, for this particular weekend you have the start of the college baseball World Series (go 'Dores), and the continuation of the PGA's U.S. Open. That won't be every summer weekend, of course, but on any given Saturday you can count on baseball, some golf, occasionally tennis, etc. It certainly wouldn't hurt Indycar to think about more Saturday events.

#38 red stick

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 17:34

She is?


Yep.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 20:36

This will be a great weekend for racing for sure - very excited that we are finally at a track where the drivers ability will have much effect on the outcome.

Also - I just have to share this.

http://www.ibj.com/t...RAMS/post/27778

From the article - specifically from Tony George:

Thanks for the link.

QUOTE
“I didn’t start the split, I helped end it,” he said.

QUOTE
“I am disappointed Randy hasn’t sought my counsel on things I am well informed on, but wastes no time seeking the counsel of people like Robin Miller,”

The question Anthony Schoettle (or someone!) should ask George is who he listened to. Who was it that convinced him that creating the IRL was the way to go? That's the (however much money both he and CART lost) dollar question.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 21:17

Yep.


She's run every race except Brazil and is in 24th position, two spots ahead of Dan Wheldon, who has run one race, and four spots behind E. J. Viso, who is commonly reviled as the worst driver in the series. Beatriz may be a classy person, but there is no evidence whatsoever that she's a class driver.


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Posted 18 June 2011 - 21:43

there is no evidence whatsoever that she's a class driver.

Your research lacks perspective and depth.
Jp

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 22:08

Simona's just had another hard wreck...
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#43 DanicaFan

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 22:41

Here is your starting line-up..

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#44 KoezhVukotic

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 22:44

Great result for the KV boys! Well done TK, Sato and even Viso!
:drunk:

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 22:55

Great result for the KV boys! Well done TK, Sato and even Viso!
:drunk:

I don't know about Viso and Sato starting side by side on a small oval . . . :cool:

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 22:57

Nice start for Ana. What happened to Will?

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 23:18

On a historic note, this pole is 15mph slower than the pole set 13 years ago, in 1998, by Patrick Carpentier.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 23:26

Nice start for Ana. What happened to Will?

Lack of power? :p

Nice from the KV boys, looking good on everything this year and Ana, nice signs of improving.



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Posted 18 June 2011 - 23:39

Happy with Ana results! And Sato. I think I'm going to watch this one.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 00:52

Lack of power? :p

 ;)