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#1 lyntonh

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 08:38

Practice was wet on Saturday......all at Creek Corner.

There's something I like about a photograph of a racing car in the rain.

Frank Gardner
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John Surtess
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Alan Hamilton
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Alf Costanzo
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John Harvey
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Bob Muir
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Frank Gardner
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There are some quality issues with the photos, caused by me rushing home after practice,
processing the films in the oldies' laundry, & not washing them properly.

The result is a rash of annoying hypo stains, which held these shots back until these days of Photoshop,
which has allowed me to tidy up some of the better "images". (as we're now meant to call them!!)

Edited by lyntonh, 12 February 2012 - 07:30.


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#2 Ray Bell

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 09:12

Excellent reminders of that day, Lynton...

No problems with the quality now. And in that second one of Harvey it really looks like he's seriously getting into it.

#3 SJ Lambert

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 09:19

Practice was wet on Saturday......all at Creek Corner.

There's something I like about a photograph of a racing car in the rain.



Alf Costanzo
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There are some quality issues with the photos, caused by me rushing home after practice,
processing the films in the oldies' laundry, & not washing them properly.

The result is a rash of annoying hypo stains, which held these shots back until these days of Photoshop,
which has allowed me to tidy up some of the better "images". (as we're now meant to call them!!)



Great shots as always Lynton, don't suppose you have more Elfin Monos on film for the Mono thread? - ALf's that you've captured would likely have been the most advanced aero package ever presented on a Mono??

James

#4 Ray Bell

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 09:47

I'm also wondering if he has any of Colin Bond...

Colin was the star of that practice session, after all!

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 10:09

Great photos Lynton. You probably rushed the development, so you could then go and dry yourself.

Seeing these photos I can't help but look at the sculpted creations for ridding the spent gases. Works of art some.

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#6 Wirra

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 10:13

What was the story of Gardner on race day... I don't even see him listed as a starter?

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 10:24

What was the story of Gardner on race day... I don't even see him listed as a starter?

According to the AGP book Gardner suffered a stuck throttle at the end of the pit straight and the car hit some water pipes putting it out of action.

#8 Ray Bell

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 11:07

Nasty water pipes, those...

Just at driver's head height!

#9 Wirra

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 11:52

Ray - I wonder if it was a stockpile of stormwater pipes rather than the horse track watering pipe attached to the rails. There was quite a bit of plant and equipment located in that area - ridiculous by today's standards.

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#10 Ray Bell

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 12:45

Let's see how we decipher it...

But, while Bond was getting the congratulations, Frank Gardner was receiving condolences after hitting the water pipes on the horse track at the end of the straight. Apparently the throttle had stuck open as he prepared to take Paddock Bend, and the very impressive looking Lola T300 shot across the grass and into the water pipes, giving Gardner a narrow escape from injury.

Gardner, one of the pre-race favourites after his numerous F5000 successes overseas, including the European Championship, escaped unharmed, but his car was badly bend, with the left-hand front suspension a write-off.


There were waterpipes on the horse rails... I suspect these were the ones involved. The photo above is from well around Paddock Bend, not somewhere you'd finish up if you had a throttle stick open.

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 16:47

Let's see how we decipher it...



There were waterpipes on the horse rails... I suspect these were the ones involved. The photo above is from well around Paddock Bend, not somewhere you'd finish up if you had a throttle stick open.

Sensational photos! - so raw, and really displaying the relatively agricultural nature of these cars - just a man and the bare necessities of going as fast as possible. Fantastic! :clap:

#12 lyntonh

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 23:45

Gary Campbell
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Graeme Lawrence
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Frank Matich
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Muir/Harvey
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Frank M again ....about to...
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Go Off...
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Kevin Bartlett
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#13 lyntonh

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 23:52

Sensational photos! - so raw, and really displaying the relatively agricultural nature of these cars - just a man and the bare necessities of going as fast as possible. Fantastic! :clap:


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I think I see what you're getting at....

#14 seldo

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 00:06

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I think I see what you're getting at....

Aw shucks - Thanks Lynton - where do you keep finding these? I have none of my own... :cry: (ex-wife binned them all..)

Edited by seldo, 03 July 2011 - 00:08.


#15 yasmin

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 00:49

Lynton, fantastic pics; thanks for sharing with us
...any of Colin Bond ?

#16 lyntonh

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 02:46

Lynton, fantastic pics; thanks for sharing with us
...any of Colin Bond ?


From what I can see from my negs, Colin Bond didn't risk it in the wet session.

He features in the later dry session I photographed in the esses.

More later...



#17 ellrosso

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 08:49

Pit shot of Bond with McLaren. Larry Perkins in shot also

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#18 Catalina Park

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 09:05

From what I can see from my negs, Colin Bond didn't risk it in the wet session.

He features in the later dry session I photographed in the esses.

More later...

The story is that Bond was the sensation of the wet session posting the quickest times by far. Unless that was in the later session....


#19 Dale Harvey

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 21:31

I was there and I remember Bondy being fastest in the wet also. I also remember him talking to someone about changing the shock settings for the wet and Frank's crew getting upset with him for touching things.

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#20 lyntonh

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:09

Last one at Creek in the first session...
Bob Muir
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And then to the esses for the second practice...
Alan Hamilton & Jack Bono
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Colin Hyams, Warwick Brown, John Harvey & Bob Muir
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Frank Matich
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Don O'Sullivan
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Max Stewart
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John Harvey, Bob Muir
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Don O'Sullivan, John Surtees
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Alf Costanzo & my first picture of Colin Bond
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#21 Ray Bell

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:22

No, Bond didn't risk it in the wet session at all...

He just reckoned it was 'rally weather' and was over a second faster than anyone else.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 13:56

[quote name='lyntonh' date='Jul 5 2011, 22:09' post='5146467']
Colin Hyams, Warwick Brown, John Harvey & Bob Muir
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More magic photos Lynton!
But you missed naming the 2nd guy hidden in the queue with 2 broad stripes on his lid....?

Edited by seldo, 05 July 2011 - 13:57.


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 15:00

Warwick Brown in the Pat Burke McLaren M4A

#24 Wirra

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 16:50

Warwick Brown in the Pat Burke McLaren M4A

I think he means Gary Campbell.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 19:18

Oh, that second car...

And I was sure I'd read the caption to see that WB wasn't mentioned

I've just had my glasses renewed, too :blush:

#26 Ray Bell

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 21:31

Indeed it was the Provincial Motors proprietor...

Gary was having a great time in those days, really enjoying his motor racing.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 11:43

Don O'Sullivan....head on
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Max Stewart & Terry Quartly
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Bob Muir
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Frank Matich.....nice and tight
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Colin Bond
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John McCormack & Graeme Lawrence
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Ian Cook & Max Stewart
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Colin Bond
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Graeme Lawrence
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John Surtees
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John McCormack & ?
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#28 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:02

Originally posted by lyntonh
.....Max Stewart & Terry Quartly
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Max Stewart and Clive Millis... or is that a '16' which would make it Henk Woelders (right colours)?

.....John McCormack & ?
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I think that's Chris Farrell, but it could also be Ian Fergusson.

#29 David Shaw

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:26

Warwick Farm was a perfect track for a F5000 vs 2-litre battle. It always seemed to reward a committed driver in a lesser powered device. Very few could hope to stay with Matich there though.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 20:59

Warwick Farm was a perfect track for a F5000 vs 2-litre battle. It always seemed to reward a committed driver in a lesser powered device. Very few could hope to stay with Matich there though.


You are correct one only has to look at the movement in the rear tyres to see the most committed drivers, simply amazing how much tyre movement there was in those days.

#31 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 23:16

I don't know, Dan...

Going by what you've said, indications would be that Colin Hyams was a bit of a goer.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 23:48

Max Stewart and Clive Millis... or is that a '16' which would make it Henk Woelders (right colours)?



I think that's Chris Farrell, but it could also be Ian Fergusson.


I spent ages last night trying to figure the names on those two, especially the second one.

The AGP 1971 Wikipedia page says Quartly in 18, but we all know about wiki....the car looks like an Elfin 600, so Quartly is wrong according to the wiki list.
The first name to pop into my head was Clive Millis.

The second car is difficult, with Fergusson being my guess, but any pictures I've found of him show a different car.
(The other thing is Ferguson/Fergusson)

The wiki link is here:

http://en.wikipedia....lian_Grand_Prix

One of you more knowledgable chaps may care to correct it, if necessary.

#33 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 00:45

Oh yeah, that's easily fixed...

Don't use Wikipedia!

16 was Henk Woelders

18 was Clive Millis

23 was Chris Farrell

25 was Ian Fergusson

My reservation about the latter two is that I don't recall Fergusson (yes, double 's') having wings that large or contrasting that much with his car colour. The car was a mid-green. Farrell, however, probably had a purple car and wings could have been anything. It would be nice if his brother in law looked in and checked it out for us.

I note now that the AGP book lists Farrell as not practising, though he's on the grid. In RCN he's not listed on the grid at all.

Quartly's car was black.

#34 lyntonh

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 01:09

[quote name='Ray Bell' date='Jul 7 2011, 01:45' post='5149137']
Oh yeah, that's easily fixed...

"Don't use Wikipedia!"

I'd love not to....the idea of anybody altering historical data in the public domain, without peer review before release is ridiculous.

If you use the resource before all the errors are corrected, bad luck.

Frankly I see the concept as dumb, & a typical poorly thought-out product of the computer age.

I guess that's why I started this topic. To have photos, correct captions, discussion, & accurate anecdotes about the event will hopefully allow a future researcher
(at whatever level) to gain a reasonably accurate picture of the story, & allow them to view the discussion which helped the participants arrive at the truth.

The more I post on TNF the more I prefer to avoid long topics like "Personal Aussie Photos", because they
become unwieldy & difficult to search.

I reckon discreet topics on specific events or issues is the way to go.

My use of Wikipedia was cautious, mainly as a reminder tool, because I had little else,
& I prefer to caption photos if I can (it makes me sound like I know what I am talking about)
but you will notice that my instincts told me some of the details were wrong.






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Posted 07 July 2011 - 06:59

I saw Frank Gardner have his accident at Warwick Farm in the Lola T300 - he went straight ahead from the Pit Straight into the horse railing at Paddock, jarring his feet a little. Reluctantly years later he told me the throttle stuck open on his Alan Smith Chev caused by heat from the engine expanding and jamming the throttle slides. Interesting fact, Frank holds the lap record at Warwick Farm, 1:24:00, source Wikipedia!

#36 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 07:17

Another Wikipedia error!

Frank Matich holds the record, 1:23.3... November 5, 1972.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 07:46

Who needs Wikipedia when we have RAY around. :up:

We are on our way back to Sydney and it hard to get a signal for the computer in the NULLARBOR.

GREAT photos Lynton i was on the bridge with my friend Fred Chessell TRYING to get good pics which turned out ok unlike yours.

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 11:25

Lynton, they are excellent photos - I have sent you a PM. If anyone has any further pics of Gary Campbell in the Elfin (or of LP, Leo G, Damon Beck or Barry Johnston in later years in the car), I sure would appreciate seeing them :)
Thanks also Wirra for the photos that you have given me.

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 19:22

Oh yeah, that's easily fixed...

Don't use Wikipedia!

16 was Henk Woelders

18 was Clive Millis

23 was Chris Farrell

25 was Ian Fergusson

My reservation about the latter two is that I don't recall Fergusson (yes, double 's') having wings that large or contrasting that much with his car colour. The car was a mid-green. Farrell, however, probably had a purple car and wings could have been anything. It would be nice if his brother in law looked in and checked it out for us.

I note now that the AGP book lists Farrell as not practising, though he's on the grid. In RCN he's not listed on the grid at all.

Quartly's car was black.

Are you sure? Looks like Johnny Walker Matich in a later year to me. Am I looking at the wrong picture?


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Posted 09 July 2011 - 19:24

Oh yeah, that's easily fixed...

Don't use Wikipedia!

16 was Henk Woelders

18 was Clive Millis

23 was Chris Farrell

25 was Ian Fergusson

My reservation about the latter two is that I don't recall Fergusson (yes, double 's') having wings that large or contrasting that much with his car colour. The car was a mid-green. Farrell, however, probably had a purple car and wings could have been anything. It would be nice if his brother in law looked in and checked it out for us.

I note now that the AGP book lists Farrell as not practising, though he's on the grid. In RCN he's not listed on the grid at all.

Quartly's car was black.

Are you sure? Looks like Johnny Walker Matich in a later year to me. Am I looking at the wrong picture?


#41 lyntonh

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 01:30

I'm as yet to finish my photo scans, so while that happens, here's that 1971 AGP video that most on here have no doubt already seen.

Dear old Norman knew nothing about Motor Racing, so Graham Howard was critical in the commentary.

Unfortunately, the ABC insisted on having their own man in the box, probably for production reasons,
but to have the race described in terms of "they come past now, it's cars 1, 6, 8 & 11 followed by cars 8 & 9" etc etc
was quite frustrating at the time, & still raises the hackles somewhat.



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Posted 10 July 2011 - 06:13

It was a similar when the ABC covered a Melb. Golf Tornament around the same time, "its downhill with the wind behind so he shouldn't have any trouble getting the putt to the hole" was one of the clangers.

Thanks for the photos.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 09:24

Hi All;
I saw a DVD of old races at The Farm a couple of weeks ago.
It must have been in the earlier days because the race commentator was the horse racing commentator from the ABC.
( His name may have been Bert Oliver I believe.)
Anyway coming round Ledger on the last lap the only thing the bloke did not say was the driver went for the whip!! :lol: :lol:
A bit of a hoot looking back on it.
Memories again!!
Cheers.
Roger.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 13:08

The Race........

Frank Matich clear of the field already on the first lap...John Harvey's front wheel just in the shot
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Bob Muir, John Surtees, John McCormack, Colin Bond & Don O'Sullivan
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John Harvey & Max Stewart
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Colin Bond ...past John McCormack
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Kevin Bartlett, Alan Hamilton & John Surtees
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Harvey & Stewart
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Bartlett & Surtees...both in tight
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I love this shot...Surtees, Hamilton, Bond & Graeme Lawrence
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John Harvey
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John Harvey
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Bartlett, Surtees, Hamilton & Bond
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Surtees slowing...on the way to the pits
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Posted 18 July 2011 - 04:33

The rest of the race...

(I've added an edit on the first shot to include Eldougo's comment in post #48 on 24 7 11 which now has no photo with it,
because I've been moving photos away from Imageshack & slipped up by deleting the original photo!!)
(Any comments showing the photo in the original post, link to the image host)

Harvey & Henk Woelders with the great Lance Ruting in his shorts getting REALLY close up.
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Matich
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KB
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Max Stewart
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Gary Campbell
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Surtees..with his side number blown off
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Matich ....Last lap
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Victory lap
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Surtees
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Bartlett
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Hamilton
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And, even though the photo is poor...my favourite driver of the time... Max Stewart
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#46 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 06:23

Originally posted by lyntonh
.....Frank Matich clear of the field already on the first lap.....
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Originally posted by lyntonh
.....Matich ....Last lap.....
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An interesting study...

Full of fuel on the first lap, obviously, and that would appear to be causing some understeer. The last lap... seems to me Frank was putting in a bit of a blinder to show he could do it. He and Peter Brock were keen on doing that sort of thing.

I remember once at Point M when he did so in the SR3, Bob and I could both tell (without resorting to watches at all) that the final lap had been his quickest.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:46

The Improved Touring Cars practising at the same meeting....in the Esses.

Graeme Blanchard
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Brian Foley
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Norm Beechey
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Ian Geoghegan
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Bob Jane
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Dennis Marwood
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Bill Fanning
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Ian Geoghegan
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 08:34

[quote name='lyntonh' date='Jul 18 2011, 14:33' post='5175474']
The rest of the race...
Harvey & Henk Woelders
Posted Image...The great Lance Ruting in his shorts getting REALLY close up.

Great photos Lyntonh

Edited by eldougo, 24 July 2011 - 08:35.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:18

More tourers at the AGP meeting 1971

Mike Stillwell
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Bill Fanning
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Dennis Marwood
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Norm Beechey
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Bob Jane
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Bob Jane & Bill Fanning
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Ian Geoghegan
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:41

The Improved Touring Cars practising at the same meeting....in the Esses.


Bob Jane
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Dennis Marwood
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As usual Lynton - more sensational photos - you never cease to amaze me. You seem to be able to pluck a batch of previously unseen photos from thin air :).
I thought it was interesting to note the seemingly huge disparity of the track dimensions on the 2 comparable Camaros of Jane and Marwood