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#1 HistoryFan

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 04:27

who in racing had famous forefathers?

Alfonso de Portago of course with some of his forefathers were very famous.
Rob Walker was grand-grand-grandson of Johnny Walker

Who else?

Edited by HistoryFan, 09 July 2011 - 04:29.


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#2 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 05:34

Prominent dads...

#3 David McKinney

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:22

Not quite the same thing, Tim

You could add Prince Bira, HF, and in fact virtually anyone with a title

#4 Gary Davies

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 07:05

The last President of the FIA? :well:

#5 Catalina Park

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 07:27

Tom Sulman.

#6 kayemod

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 08:22

The last President of the FIA? :well:


Yes, but the thread title is "famous", not "notorious".


#7 Red Socks

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:00

Yes, but the thread title is "famous", not "notorious".

Famous before he was notorious.

#8 Zeroninety

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:15

Longtime CART backmarker Hiro Matsushita was the grandson of Konosuke Matsushita, famous in Japan as the founder of Panasonic, and one of the nation's wealthiest men.

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:20

Oh, and Johnny Dumfries, the 7th Marquess of Bute, was descended from the 3rd Earl of Bute, prime minister under George III.

#10 kayemod

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:51

Famous before he was notorious.


Mosley junior managed to achieve that the other way around.

#11 wenoopy

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 10:13


Denis Hulme's father, Clive Hulme was awarded the Victoria Cross in World War 2.

#12 David McKinney

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 10:51

Tom Sulman.

Why?

#13 Geoff E

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 10:55

Why?


This I suppose (the second "hit" when googling his name) - Tom Sulman was born in Sydney, Australia on 25 December 1899. He was the son of architect Sir John Sulman.


#14 Allan Lupton

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 11:30

This I suppose (the second "hit" when googling his name) - Tom Sulman was born in Sydney, Australia on 25 December 1899. He was the son of architect Sir John Sulman.

I think you are getting into shallow water here. I'm not worried that the men you refer to are known in Australia but not here but in a parallel case it is hard to be sure if the architect Halsey Ricardo was the famous father of Harry Ricardo or if Harry was Halsey's famous son.

#15 David McKinney

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 13:42

...and anyway we've already done a fathers and sons thread

I imagined the intention of this thread was to be more remote

A famous Lea-Francis owner, for example, is descended from - no, we won't go into that :)

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 16:44

Lieutenant the Honourable William Coleridge, better known as Bill Coleridge who was one of the winning crew in the 1961 Safari was a descendant of the poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge.

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 18:58

I imagined the intention of this thread was to be more remote

Me too. And anyway, as any genealogist can tell you, we are all descended from Charlemagne. :p

#18 ensign14

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 19:10

Ferdinand de Lesseps is descended from the chap who designed the Panama Canal.

Given that Bobby Verdon-Roe had an heraldic fret on his helmet, I assume he comes from an armigerous family. Quite apart from A.V. Roe of Avro fame, who was a supporter of someone notorious in this very thread...

#19 David McKinney

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 21:37

Ferdinand de Lesseps is descended from the chap who designed the Panama Canal.

...but didn't complete it. He had however been more successful with the Suez Canal


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#20 ensign14

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 22:01

Did he have any success with the Far Canal?

#21 Vitesse2

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 22:36

My favourite palindrome: A man, a plan, a canal. Panama! :)

#22 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 23:40

My favourite palindrome: A man, a plan, a canal. Panama! :)



I quite like that one!

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 02:10

Why?

Sorry, I should have expanded a bit! :blush:

Tom Sulman was the son of Sir John Sulman who was a leading and very influential architect in Australia. He was the chairman Federal Capitol Advisory Committee responsible for the design of Canberra. His name lives on in the annual Sir John Sulman prize which is one of Australia's most coveted art prizes and also in the annual Sir John Sulman Medal for architecture.
There is also going to be a new suburb in Canberra named Sulman in his honour.


Edited by Catalina Park, 10 July 2011 - 02:18.


#24 David McKinney

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:04

Thanks Michael

#25 brucemoxon

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:19

I only have one father, who's well-known, if not famous.

But one grandfather was a professor at Sydney University and was an expert in fungal diseases in cereal crops (Oy - such an expert!) and the other was the Sec-Gen of the Communist Party of Australia



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#26 plannerpower

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:36

Any relation to Les Moxon? He was & is very well-known in the radio communications field;

http://www.eham.net/articles/7960



#27 brucemoxon

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:48

Any relation to Les Moxon? He was & is very well-known in the radio communications field;

http://www.eham.net/articles/7960


Apparently all the Moxons (and Moxtons, Moxhams, and so on) are related through a common ancestor in the Sheffield area about 1,000 years ago. So yes, in one way.

But no, not really. Same goes for Martyn, who opened the batting for England. My branch of the Moxons has been in Australia since the 1840s or so - Joshua Moxon was the first of our line.

There's also a rather notorious Moxon who's the Lawyer for the 'Church' of Scientology. And Lew Moxon killed Bruce Wayne's parents.



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#28 ensign14

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:53

My favourite palindrome: A man, a plan, a canal. Panama! :)

Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!

#29 Stephen W

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:07

I only have one father, who's well-known, if not famous.

Bruce Moxon


I would have thought if someone had four fathers it would be their mother who would be famous!

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