Track changes between qualifying and race
#1
Posted 01 August 2011 - 05:12
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Have there been any other examples of where a track has been substantially changed after qualifying and before the actual race?
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#2
Posted 01 August 2011 - 08:21
Also, in 1994, the temporary tyre chicane at Barcelona was changed over the weekend, although I think this happened before Saturday qualifying - originally on the Friday it was too tight and narrow.
#3
Posted 01 August 2011 - 09:33
Unfortunately simple measures like photgraphing or mapping temporary chicanes rarely takes place.
#4
Posted 01 August 2011 - 16:13
The 2008 Canadian Grand Prix also comes to mind, when the track surface at the hairpin broke up. Can't remember whether it was during practice or qualifying, but they had to make repairs overnight.
On a similar note: are there any examples where qualifying and race took place on completely different layouts? From 1961-1970, qualifying for the Daytona 200 motorcycle race took place on the high-speed oval, whilst the race itself was held on the road course. Is that unique or are they other examples?
#5
Posted 01 August 2011 - 18:56
#6
Posted 29 June 2015 - 09:30
On a similar note: are there any examples where qualifying and race took place on completely different layouts? From 1961-1970, qualifying for the Daytona 200 motorcycle race took place on the high-speed oval, whilst the race itself was held on the road course. Is that unique or are they other examples?
Rob,
After Bob Anderson had a crash on the Monza banking during the first session of qualifying for the 1963 Italian Grand Prix, it was decided that the Saturday qualifying session and race would take place on the road course only.
http://www.grandprix.../gpe/rr118.html
#7
Posted 29 June 2015 - 14:16
Funny this thread should re-emerge. This past weekend, the Saturday Formula E race at Battersea Park had a temporary restriction installed at the first corner, covering over a bumpy section of track that had caused some car damage during morning practice. As a result the race started behind safety car to ensure a single file move into the first corner.
The track was fixed overnight so it was open for full racing on the Sunday.
#8
Posted 29 June 2015 - 18:26
On a similar note: are there any examples where qualifying and race took place on completely different layouts? From 1961-1970, qualifying for the Daytona 200 motorcycle race took place on the high-speed oval, whilst the race itself was held on the road course. Is that unique or are they other examples?
Qualifying for the Pikes Peak hill climb usually ran over a shorter distance of the 12.5-mile course. Something like five or six miles, maybe it even changed over the years.
#9
Posted 01 July 2015 - 20:00
The (temporary) track for the 1984 Dallas Grand Prix (F1) around the Cottonbowl and the Centenial building and their associated parking lots changed significantly in both course and texture as the surface broke up under days of (several different calsses of support racers) practice and qualifying. The "official" course map which I had memorized bore significant differences from the reality which we raced on (Historic class) and CanAM driver Juan Fangio II spent hours rememorizing the course. At the end of the race, Nigel Mansel passed out from heat exhaustion and there were several (5?) former world champions cars lined up nose to tail after they had crashed on marbles while exiting the hairpin.
#10
Posted 01 July 2015 - 20:55
Qualifying for the Pikes Peak hill climb usually ran over a shorter distance of the 12.5-mile course. Something like five or six miles, maybe it even changed over the years.
Correct
qualifying is held from the start line to just below Glen Cove. Different classes qualify on different days.
For 2015, the race was shortened due to weather on the summit and other factors (same as 2012), so a little over half of the field actually raced the course that they qualified on, start line to Glen Cove.
#11
Posted 01 July 2015 - 21:58
there were several (5?) former world champions cars lined up nose to tail after they had crashed on marbles while exiting the hairpin.
The line of cars is an enduring image from that race, but I think the 5 might only actually be 1.
#12
Posted 02 July 2015 - 18:22
One that was planned but not carried out eventually:
Indy 2005: the extra chicane to avoid cars entering Turn One at full speed which the normally so durable Michelins couldn't cope with that year....
Henri