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#1 Buttoneer

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 18:35

Thought this blog entry might be of interest to members frequenting this quiet, more gentle part of the board.

http://www.pcpro.co....-behind-the-f1/

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#2 cheapracer

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:14

Ok, I'm not shy to admit I struggled at this point - "It’s 22 VMs and a couple of iSCSI SAN boxes, one SSD and the other spinning disk, and there’s a little rack with colour coded RJ45 cables in it"....

Thanks for the link but whats it got to do with global warming or power and torque?? :-)



#3 kikiturbo2

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:15

Thanks for the link but whats it got to do with global warming or power and torque?? :-)


it shows that the future is electric... :)

#4 saudoso

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 16:21

Ok, I'm not shy to admit I struggled at this point - "It’s 22 VMs and a couple of iSCSI SAN boxes, one SSD and the other spinning disk, and there’s a little rack with colour coded RJ45 cables in it"....

Thanks for the link but whats it got to do with global warming or power and torque?? :-)

22 Virtual Machines, i.e., 22 different instances of operating system cheated into believing that they have their very own computer to run in. - Very environment firendly!

2 iSCSI SAN - Storage Area Netowk - remote storage, two devices, one with HD's and one sith flash cards. Consuming much less power than 22 HDs...

Lot's of color coded cable have all to do with diversity.

You see, a very PC infrastructure.

Edited by saudoso, 15 September 2011 - 16:22.


#5 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 16:33

You see, a very PC infrastructure.

Pretty sure they run Linux, bro.

*I'll get me hat*

#6 saudoso

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 16:35

Pretty sure they run Linux, bro.

*I'll get me hat*

*Politically Correct*

And that network monitor was running XP. Don't be such a smart a**.

Edited by saudoso, 15 September 2011 - 16:37.


#7 cheapracer

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 17:53

Lot's of color coded cable have all to do with diversity.


Oh pretty colours, I like pretty colours! :D


#8 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 19:13

*Politically Correct*

And that network monitor was running XP. Don't be such a smart a**.

Isn't the McLaren standard ECU running Linux?

#9 saudoso

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 01:34

Isn't the McLaren standard ECU running Linux?


http://f1-dictionary...mb.com/ecu.html


•ECU. The McLaren Electronics ECU is the onboard hardware device with embedded code that gathers data from the Formula One car's engine, transmission, suspension system, frame components and other key elements, encrypts the data; and transmits it to the trackside support team.
•ATLAS Server. ECU data from the car is sent to the ATLAS server solution developed by McLaren Electronics, initially using the Visual Studio® 2005 development system, and now Visual Studio 2008. The ATLAS Server unpacks the telemetry data from the ECU and multicasts it to ATLAS client software being used by support crews.
•ATLAS Client. The ATLAS Client software runs on support team computers, usually laptops in the garage. The ATLAS Client provides near real-time display of data and corresponding graphics that help support teams to monitor the health of the racing car across a spectrum of parameters. The ATLAS client, developed by McLaren Electronics, runs on the Microsoft Windows XP or Windows Vista operating system. Microsoft Office Excel 2007 spreadsheet software is used for additional data analysis and visualization. On large racing teams there can be more than 30 support team members studying ECU data on their laptops during a race, with one set of engineers and technicians studying transmission feeds, while others analyze telemetry data from the engine, suspension, and other systems.
•ATLAS Database. The Atlas Database offers McLaren Electronics a relational database for ECU data to provide an easily searchable central repository. Hosting ECU data on Microsoft SQL Server 2008 running on the Windows Server® 2008 Enterprise operating system, using the FILESTREAM feature for faster access, will provide seamless access to historic ECU data - - whether from previous races, test lab simulations, or just the last lap run. Conchango is working with McLaren Electronics and Microsoft to create the database solution. The database schema includes all of the metadata about the race, test, or other ECU-generating event. The schema also includes a specific session data table with the file stream BLOB column for each ECU-generating event. The solution also uses the common language runtime (CLR) hosted within SQL Server. When an ECU data set is requested, a CLR function expands the binary data as a parameter result set so that it can then be consumed by reporting and visualization tools such Office Excel 2007 and SQL Server 2008 Reporting Services.


Ooooh boy, you can't just silently lick your wounds, can you?

Edited by saudoso, 16 September 2011 - 01:46.


#10 saudoso

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 01:35

Oh pretty colours, I like pretty colours! :D

What's the correct spelling: color or colour?

EDIT: Before someone jumps on my throat, this is a honest question, I learned english after I was 16YO.

Edited by saudoso, 16 September 2011 - 01:36.


#11 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 02:11

Depends on the country really. Uk and Canada, maybe Australia, it would be colour. America and 'International English' it will be color.

#12 saudoso

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 11:25

Depends on the country really. Uk and Canada, maybe Australia, it would be colour. America and 'International English' it will be color.

Tks

#13 Youichi

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:33

Isn't the McLaren standard ECU running Linux?


http://f1-dictionary...mb.com/ecu.html

Ooooh boy, you can't just silently lick your wounds, can you?


In OLB's defence, there is no mention in your quote as to what the ECU is runnning. Given the blatant MS mentions in the rest of the press release I would agree with him that its unlikely to be running any MS code.



#14 saudoso

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 18:47

In OLB's defence, there is no mention in your quote as to what the ECU is runnning. Given the blatant MS mentions in the rest of the press release I would agree with him that its unlikely to be running any MS code.

If you read it from the beginning, I was writing silly stuff about the thing being PC as in politically correct and was smashed as if I was stating it was all windows.

Guess what: it is all windows. The SECU is a McLaren/Microsoft partnership. You must remember the BSOD jokes from the time it was announced.

Anyway, I doubt it is linux. M$ has the means to come up with a light enough multi-threading embedded OS to do this job. They wouldn't risk being exposed for branding something that runs linux.

This is what they use (McLAren Eletr.) on the controllers not related to F1

Edited by saudoso, 21 September 2011 - 19:09.


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Posted 28 September 2011 - 07:51

Depends on the country really. Uk and Canada, maybe Australia, it would be colour. America and 'International English' it will be color.



Definitely colour in Australia.

#16 Buttoneer

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 23:18

There's a further article on Renault World Series IT. Posted just in case it generates even less interest than the F1.

http://www.pcpro.co....ld-series-cars/

#17 T-Mobile

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 14:06

It's a shame everything has to be tied down to proprietary development environments. It would be cool for software such as this to be more open.

#18 Greg Locock

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 01:51

It's a shame everything has to be tied down to proprietary development environments. It would be cool for software such as this to be more open.

There is nothing stopping you from developing a world class software product and revealing the source code. Why haven't you?

#19 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:14

Another in depth article from E+T iva the IET website:

http://eandt.theiet....marketing_email

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#20 KirilVarbanov

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 14:24

There is nothing stopping you from developing a world class software product and revealing the source code. Why haven't you?

No need to thank me - http://freeems.org/

FreeEMS is a Free and Open Source Engine Management System that is currently under heavy development


On the Linux - MS rant - although I'm heavily biased and working with Linux, I admit that MS aren't stupid, too.
On the bright side, so far I haven't heard of ECU issues, so they must have done it right.

Edited by kvarbanov, 21 October 2011 - 14:25.


#21 TURU

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 18:01

No need to thank me - http://freeems.org/

Wow, that's fantastic. :clap:
How long have you been working on it (if it was you)? Skimming through the code I see there's still quite a long way to go, but hey, this already is impressive. Keep up the good work. :up:

PS. I wish there was more software related stuff like this thread on these forums. :p

Edited by TURU, 21 October 2011 - 18:15.


#22 KirilVarbanov

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 13:07

Wow, that's fantastic. :clap:
How long have you been working on it (if it was you)? Skimming through the code I see there's still quite a long way to go, but hey, this already is impressive. Keep up the good work. :up:

PS. I wish there was more software related stuff like this thread on these forums. :p

Oh, that's not me, certainly, but looking at depth I see one main person working on it. Honestly, I don't know which phase he's in, but I remember reading some positive reviews of that software in the past, like two or three years ago.

I'm also in love of open source tools for CFD, ECU and actually anything that goes into F1.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 05:36

I'm also in love of open source tools for CFD, ECU and actually anything that goes into F1.

I'm also interested in open source tools for CFD, do you know any? :D

#24 Greg Locock

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:49

I'm also interested in open source tools for CFD, do you know any? :D

OpenFOAM, which is a free release of what used to be a serious commercial product. I know at least some automotive suppliers are using it in earnest. I got it running on ubuntu, a long while back. There is a thread on it.

#25 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:42

OpenFOAM, which is a free release of what used to be a serious commercial product. I know at least some automotive suppliers are using it in earnest. I got it running on ubuntu, a long while back. There is a thread on it.

ha I could never get it running properly on my Ubuntu box.

#26 TURU

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:51

ha I could never get it running properly on my Ubuntu box.


will try it out on my Ubuntu. :smoking:

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 16:22

OpenFOAM, which is a free release of what used to be a serious commercial product. I know at least some automotive suppliers are using it in earnest. I got it running on ubuntu, a long while back. There is a thread on it.

Big thanks for that! ;)