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#1 Paul Rochdale

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 16:09

Not nostalgia I grant you, but I've tried and tried to enjoy World SuperBikes but who on earth is this Jonathan Green bloke? His hysterical commentary seems to be delivered from inside a tin dustbin. Utterly utterly not suited to commentating on a motorbike race.

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#2 picblanc

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 17:02

Not nostalgia I grant you, but I've tried and tried to enjoy World SuperBikes but who on earth is this Jonathan Green bloke? His hysterical commentary seems to be delivered from inside a tin dustbin. Utterly utterly not suited to commentating on a motorbike race.


The same Jonathan Green that used to do BSB on ITV, awful!! :down:

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 19:13

The same Jonathan Green that used to do BSB on ITV, awful!! :down:



Oh , come on , be fair , compared to that non-entity , Tony Carter :rolleyes: , the link on Eurosport , he's in the Murray Walker league :eek: :up:


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Posted 30 September 2011 - 20:14

Oh , come on , be fair , compared to that non-entity , Tony Carter :rolleyes: , the link on Eurosport , he's in the Murray Walker league :eek: :up:


Luckily Tony Carter does not do the actual commentating........nah! Jonathan Green is far worse, closely followed by "nightmare in a bubblecar" Charlie Cox & bloody Toby Moody who emphasises his words in all the wrong places.
James Whitham, Julian Ryder & Keef are/were the best. IMHO :D

PS & not forgetting "we are in for a great race here" Steve Parrish as we watch another yawn of 12 or 13 bikes in Moto tosspot. :well:

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 21:33

but who on earth is this Jonathan Green bloke?



A mate described him once as a "screaming fanboy"...

...Kind of hard to disagree... :blush:

Edited by GD66, 01 October 2011 - 12:08.


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Posted 30 September 2011 - 22:31

A mate described him once as a "screaming fanboy"...

...Kinda of hard to disagree... :blush:

Does my head in as well. Reminds me of a Jocky Wilson Dart Match commentary from the 80s


#7 Robin127

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 00:16

The septics love him......it's all about the "excitement" he brings to the commentary. He's just as annoying as the joker who used to do BSB on the BBC in the late 90's, Barry Nuttley. Let's just shout a bit louder and people will not notice that I don't know what I'm watching.


#8 Paul Rochdale

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 08:09

Oh I don't mind Charlie Cox. Yes he comes out with some daft sayings but I think he and Steve Parish come across as a good team. I think a lot of the time , a commentator could emulate John Arlott and the golfing chappy Peter Alliss, and just leave the excitement to the viewer. Murray of course was an exception. I won't hear a bad word said about him. Did you hear his voice catch as he described the thrill of seeing those ten Spitfires in formation? I would have done the same.

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:01

Oh I don't mind Charlie Cox. Yes he comes out with some daft sayings but I think he and Steve Parish come across as a good team. I think a lot of the time , a commentator could emulate John Arlott and the golfing chappy Peter Alliss, and just leave the excitement to the viewer. Murray of course was an exception. I won't hear a bad word said about him. Did you hear his voice catch as he described the thrill of seeing those ten Spitfires in formation? I would have done the same.


Another good one (and there aren't too many), is Denis Noyes.Unflappable,Knowledgeable,laid-back and a bloody good racer in his time.Heard him the other week on a spanish network.His spanish is better than my english (not difficult) :p :p

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 16:21

Another good one (and there aren't too many), is Denis Noyes.Unflappable,Knowledgeable,laid-back and a bloody good racer in his time.Heard him the other week on a spanish network.His spanish is better than my english (not difficult) :p :p

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Agreed Andy, Dennis was good as sidekick to was it Moody? on Eurosport many years a go.
What gets my dander up is when they tell us we are watching a great race when clearly it aint, been said before but without Rossi Motopants will be a dead duck in the water, I can see it being only the engines provided by the factories in non works chassis as per Moto2, think that could be good?

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 16:40

Can't be worse than Burnicle surely? Bizarre personal remarks and pronounciations, constant references to schoolboy scrambling and a need to read down a complete list of finishers' positions :(

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 16:45

Can't be worse than Burnicle surely? Bizarre personal remarks and pronounciations, constant references to schoolboy scrambling and a need to read down a complete list of finishers' positions :(


Not an easy job commentating I know, but Burnicle is def passed his sell buy date, so many mistakes these days & also remember him being downright rude to Rob Orme his co commentator a few years a go. :down:

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 21:06

The best for me:
Keith Huewen/Julian Ryder and technical backup/'insider knowledge' Randy Mamola and Dennis Noyes.

James Whitham has been OK on Superbikes but spoiled by the incoherent rantings of Jack Burnicle. Partnered with another good commentator he would have been much better.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:45

that greene fellow was the reason i had to switch the wsb off, the shouting and roaring just go right through me, jeez you would think he was belting out the 4 minute warning rather than a race.

the other ones i avoid are nick harris and carlton kirby, parrish really bigs up moto gp and he was doing it so much at the recent mallory event even kenny roberts was rolling his eyes and laughing to the point after he had finished roberts turned to him and said "if they got rid of all the 500 footage then moto gp would be great"

classic from the irreplaceable murray walker "and its roth from west germany riding a german"

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 15:50

classic from the irreplaceable murray walker "and its roth from west germany riding a german"



On Graziano Rossi - "Don't let the long hair fool you, he's as tough as they come"


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Posted 07 October 2011 - 12:22

Thought this was going to lead to a session of 'Colemanballs' for a minute there. For motgp commentary on Star Sports we have to make do with Gavin Emmet and Nick Harris. Gavin is very knowledgeable and fluent in Spanish and Italian..it is he who conducts the post race interviews, and Nick just repeats everything he says. The annoying thing for me is that much as I love to hear the sound of the bikes, the balance is so poor that the commentary is often completely drowned out by bike noise. As for Superbikes I have to say I find Jamie Whittam's nasal northern twang leaves me wishing I had the same problem there. Sorry lads :cry:

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 17:03

Parrish's TT commentary became a bit predictable this year, every single aerial shot started with "and the helicopter cant keep up" it got a bit boring after the third or fourth race!!

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 10:47

I always felt that the BBC did a very good job in the late 1990s with their British Superbike coverage, commentated on by Barry Nutley, with Steve Parrish or Roger Burnett. I have since enjoyed re-viewing the seasons 1996 to 1999 via the Duke VHS tapes, which 100% rely on the BBC programmes from the time. However, I recently started to watch the 2000 season DVD, and it opens with the Brands Hatch races commentated by Keith Huewen and Julian Ryder - and I was so disappointed, as their approach (at the time) seemed much too frantic/haphazard to follow. (I haven’t really heard them otherwise, so maybe they have improved.) Thankfully, Barry and the BBC programming kicks in for the rest of the coverage for that season, so my enjoyment wasn’t spoiled.

I don’t mind Burnicle/Whitham or Cox/Parrish, but I do remember not thinking much of Jonathan Green. At some races he was joined by Scott Smart - who knows his stuff but wants to say too much / talk too fast, and it doesn’t work for a commentator to do that. However, I did like Fran Robinson, who presented terrestrial coverage of BSB/WSB at the time...