Lowood Super Squalo
#1
Posted 20 October 2011 - 06:54
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#2
Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:11
methinks it would be des kellyThis is a Brier Thomas shot of a Ferrari Super Squalo from Lowood. Its pre 1959 most probably - anyone have any idea who is driving and what year? Thanks in advance.
#3
Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:35
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:35
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:53
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 08:21
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:32
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 10:15
#9
Posted 20 October 2011 - 13:31
10-jan-59 Gp de Nouvelle Zelande - Ardmore ? Lowoods ?
10 Tom Clark 555 Super Squalo "9001"
11 Pat Hoare 625 Special "0007"
12 Arnold Glass 555 Super Squalo
14 Ken Harris 750 Monza
n.q Ron Roycroft 375 F1
# ????
and 1958:
1-nov-58 GP d'Australie - Albert Park?
3 Tom Clark 555 Super Squalo #10
Arnold Glass Dino 246 F1 #2
#10
Posted 20 October 2011 - 14:14
1-nov-58 GP d'Australie - Albert Park?
3 Tom Clark 555 Super Squalo #10
Arnold Glass Dino 246 F1 #2
The 1958 Australian Grand Prix was held at Bathurst
The Albert Park race was called the Melbourne Grand Prix
Tom Clark wasn't third in it
Arnold Glass did not drive a Ferrari Dino 246 in it
#11
Posted 20 October 2011 - 14:35
6-oct-58 GP d'Australie - Bathurst
1 A. Davidson 625/750
? ? 1959 Bathurst
3 Norm Crowfoot 750 Monza "0462M"
#12
Posted 20 October 2011 - 15:37
i just blew the photo up,doesn't look like arnold glass so i reckon it's arthur griffith 1959Thank David:
6-oct-58 GP d'Australie - Bathurst
1 A. Davidson 625/750
? ? 1959 Bathurst
3 Norm Crowfoot 750 Monza "0462M"
#13
Posted 20 October 2011 - 16:44
...and looks like him to me
#14
Posted 20 October 2011 - 20:22
#15
Posted 20 October 2011 - 21:35
He then ran the car in a couple of events in Australia, the last of which was to have been the October Bathurst race. However, he sold it a few days before. Hence the entry being in McMillan's name, not Glass's
McMillan then stuck with the car as Glass's mechanic, continuing to work on later Capitol Motors entries (250F, Cooper-Maser, BRM etc)
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 06:00
#17
Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:24
But how should I know, being 50 years and half a world away?
Edited by D-Type, 21 October 2011 - 12:42.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:49
#19
Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:28
IIRC the cars were rebodied before Whitehead and Parnell brought them south in 1956. The bodies are not the same as the original Super Squalos.Is that a Super Squalo? It looks more like a F500/625/750.
But how should i know, being 50 years and half a world away?
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:52
#21
Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:32
Another difference is the shape of the nose air intake, always a character defining feature [ which many restorers get wrong]. I suspect the side bulges might have a touch more curvature in them too. The original bulges appeared to have slightly more of a straight side section in plan view. Another minor point; I think they did away with the big 'gill' in the bulge. Anyway, I can understand D-Type's query as the net result was a different looking car.The only real difference between the late-1955 cars and the Whitehead/Parnell versions was a raising of the bonnet-line, which had the effect of doing away with the raised scuttle. This has remained something of a puzzle, as the 860 engine was no taller than the 555
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 14:22
#23
Posted 22 October 2011 - 04:55
I hope this is not getting too pedantic for TNF! These quick sketches of Super Squalo air-intakes have accurate proportions;The air-intake on the Glass car is different from in the Whitehead/Parnell period, presumably after its rebuild following McMillan's flip at Mount Druitt
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There is obviously considerable difference between the two. David, I don't think the second shape is very different from its appearance during Australian ownership after McMillan's prang.
#24
Posted 22 October 2011 - 06:06
(But I may have to withdraw all that, as I'm relying on memory. Not from 1955, but from photos I've seen since )
#25
Posted 22 October 2011 - 09:58
As for the rest of the car, the higher bonnet line seems to be due to the engine being mounted much higher than in the factory cars. In the only 2 pictures I have seen of the engine bay of the 56/57 cars, there is virtually no clearance at the rear of the motor between the top of the valve covers /oil filler and the top of the bulkhead. My thought was that the exhaust manifolds led downward to exit under the car on the 860 sports engine, and the raised engine in these Squalos was to allow a side exit.
The Glass car later had a 2.5 motor installed and a picture of it (at Giltrap's Museum?) shows several inches of the (raised)bulkhead clear above the engine, so presumably the 2.5 was able to be mounted lower, for the above reason.
Both car bodies were somewhat bent in Australia by their NZ drivers, and straightening-out probably gave each a slightly different shape. The Whitehead / Tom Clark car was also partly rebodied by subsequent owner Bob Smith in NZ, using panels from other cars.
Stu
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 21:32
#27
Posted 23 October 2011 - 21:50
The Giltrap Museum lost theirs about 30 years ago: it's now with a Mr Ecclestone. Bob Smith sold his in 1963 and it now lives in Spain
#28
Posted 24 October 2011 - 00:02
Whilst being well out of my comfort zone with these early to me cars , I have Lowood programme
from 25th Oct. 1959 .
Entrants include the following ,
# 154 , Ecurie California [ USA] [ Driver Rod Carveth ] Ferrari 2992cc
# 24 , A. Glass , Maserati 250 F , 2493cc
# 15 , A.A.Griffiths , Ferrari , 2500cc.
That may or may not help define time line on who had what at a given time.
Interesting that Rod Carveth had three cars entered for the same race , others were Aston Martin 2922cc
and Taraschi R.A.M. 1089cc.
Bryan.
#29
Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:08
Then I found a pic in an album I have captioned "Arnold Glass, Ferrari, Lowood 1957" but no month or date. Obviously A. Glass in the above pic as my pic shows the same helmet and "driving suit"
My Lowood programme of 11/8/157 shows A. Glass entered in the HWM Jag and you would think this would be the major open wheel meeting of the year at Lowood being the Gold Star meeting. The famous Blanden book says that he first drove the Ferrari at Mt Druitt in November 1957 so when was the subject Lowood pic taken ?
#30
Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:16
(and no doubt the Aston - no captions though so hard to tell).
Shame both Squalos have long since gone - would love to see one run in anger. They did a demo with Ted Gray's Tornado Mk 2 at the Sandown 1977 Rothmans F5000 round which was very impressive, open pipes etc. First time I'd ever seen a front engine openwheeler run in the flesh (newsreels just don't really cut it from that era).
Certainly gave me a eye-opening respect for those guys who drove them on the limit.......
#31
Posted 24 October 2011 - 06:03
Arnold would still have been in the HWM-Jag at Lowood in August.I found a pic in an album I have captioned "Arnold Glass, Ferrari, Lowood 1957" but no month or date. Obviously A. Glass in the above pic as my pic shows the same helmet and "driving suit"
My Lowood programme of 11/8/157 shows A. Glass entered in the HWM Jag and you would think this would be the major open wheel meeting of the year at Lowood being the Gold Star meeting. The famous Blanden book says that he first drove the Ferrari at Mt Druitt in November 1957 so when was the subject Lowood pic taken ?
His first drive in the Squalo was at Bathurst on the first weekend of October that year
As in post 8, he drove it at Lowood the following month
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 06:28
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 23:09
#34
Posted 25 October 2011 - 00:31
Certainly since I started buying magazines. Check 'Hough' in the 'Ultimate Price' thread.
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Posted 25 October 2011 - 01:00
#36
Posted 25 October 2011 - 01:27
thanks, Dick. Now that I've been sitting here chewing it over, I think the Glass connection was that Hough had obtained the car on HP from Arnold Glass, and that the family sat the wreck under the house in the Clarence Valley and paid it off...September 9th, 1962, I was there. He hit Charlie Whatmore's Lotus Eleven, the Ferrari wasn't entered at that meeting.
The only reference I'd seen to it was undated and in a Bill Tuckey book, and it was Glyn Scott's name that was mentioned as the other party... but I now have it first-hand. I went to school with Hough's nephew, and while I had heard of the accident in retrospect through family connections, the Houghs never spoke of it at all.
#37
Posted 25 October 2011 - 13:05
Another example of just how quickly things could go horribly wrong back in those days.
#38
Posted 26 October 2011 - 06:17
I have video of Arnold in the Ferrari at the November 1957 Mt. Druitt meeting transferred from 8mm movie I took at the time.Arnold would still have been in the HWM-Jag at Lowood in August.
His first drive in the Squalo was at Bathurst on the first weekend of October that year
As in post 8, he drove it at Lowood the following month
It is interesting that at the NSW Sprint Championships at Mt. Druitt the following May 1958 he used the HWM Jaguar for second fastest time after Len Lukey in the Cooper Bristol.
I also have video of this event.
I remember around this time the Ferrari on display in the Capitol Motors showroom on the Haymarket end of George Street
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 06:21
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#40
Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:44
In this early appearance in 1965 the Borrani wire wheels were still used, but later they were replaced, and holes were cut for 8 stub exhausts to poke through the bonnet. The "all-comers" class disappeared within a season or so, and most of the original Ferrari parts were eventually reunited with the chassis.
Stu
#41
Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:04
thanks, Dick. Now that I've been sitting here chewing it over, I think the Glass connection was that Hough had obtained the car on HP from Arnold Glass, and that the family sat the wreck under the house in the Clarence Valley and paid it off...
The only reference I'd seen to it was undated and in a Bill Tuckey book, and it was Glyn Scott's name that was mentioned as the other party... but I now have it first-hand. I went to school with Hough's nephew, and while I had heard of the accident in retrospect through family connections, the Houghs never spoke of it at all.
The car is still owned by the Hough family, It has been partly restored and is carefully stored at the moment to preseve it until some more work can be done on it. It was not bought directly from Glass but rather he sold it to Denis Geary who traded it with a blown motor to John and Ralph Hough on the ex Moss/Davison HWM Jaguar. While the car was partialy financed it was also insured and that paid the car out. The family is happy to talk to anyone who wants to know about the car and they are currently restoring the above mentioned HWM. The Cooper will follow in the next year or so. The accident was caused by a sheared gear in the fuel pump which caused the car to suddenly slow and it was hit from behind. I hope this is informative and clears things up a bit. I am happy to answer any other questions that are within my knowlage.