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#1 Dolph

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 20:08

So, BMW back in DTM after 1994. They have got an impressive lineup and will race six cars in 2012. Who will the other drivers in DTM be?

I'm updating this page with confirmed and speculated teams and drivers:

Audi - 7 cars

Abt Sportsline
Mattias Ekström
Timo Scheider
Rahel Frey

Team Phoenix
Mike Rockenfeller
Miguel Molina

Team Rosberg
Edoardo Mortara
Filipe Albuquerque

OUT
Oliver Jarvis


BMW - 6 cars

Team RBM
Augusto Farfus
Andy Priaulx

Team RMG
Joey Hand
Martin Tomczyk

Team Schnitzer
Bruno Spengler
Dirk Werner


Mercedes-Benz - ? cars

Confirmed drivers:
Mücke Motorsport
David Coulthard

Persson Motorsport
Susie Wolff

Other
Ralf Schumacher
Gary Paffet

OUT
Renger van der Zande

Edited by Dolph, 10 March 2012 - 16:23.


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#2 handel

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 21:25

Sorry - strictly speaking a bit OT. Is there anywhere out there to watch DTM online or do you all rely on feeds from TV channels? In the UK is DTM still on Eurosport?

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 21:33

How many drivers per manufacturer?

I'm thinking Rene Rast to BMW, if not Jorg Muller; maybe Nick Heidfeld.

Edited by THE "driverider", 26 October 2011 - 21:35.


#4 Myrvold

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 21:56

Sorry - strictly speaking a bit OT. Is there anywhere out there to watch DTM online or do you all rely on feeds from TV channels? In the UK is DTM still on Eurosport?


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#5 MadYarpen

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 22:51

I don't follow DTM at all, but this new Merc looks great.

#6 MrFondue

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 23:10

Rumors say Audi and Merc will run 8 cars each next year.

#7 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 23:13

Rumors say Audi and Merc will run 8 cars each next year.

How come they don't allow genuine privateers to run and buy cars of their own accord, to privately enter with their own sponsors?

#8 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 23:55

So they will feature the Audi S5, BMW "M3" and Mercedes C-Coupe? Nice line-up. :)

#9 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 04:51

What's this about a north american DTM series? I gather a place for Merc, BMW and Audi to race their old cars and promote their wares in conjunction with NASCAR. Those NASCAR folks are smart indeed.

These cars are cheap and popular in the US afaik... M3s can and do take sales away from Mustangs and Camaros in the US AFAIK, due to the relatively small difference in price, so I wonder exactly how happy Ford and Chevy can be to see DTM arranging for the NASCAR administration to run their sport* alongisde their GrandAm series.

* Which presumably will be a major promotional vehicle for Merc, BMW and Audi in the US, otherwise why bother?

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:26

How many drivers per manufacturer?

I'm thinking Rene Rast to BMW, if not Jorg Muller; maybe Nick Heidfeld.

Mercedes: 8 drivers
Audi: 8 drivers
BMW: 6 drivers

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 09:17

Mercedes: 8 drivers
Audi: 8 drivers
BMW: 6 drivers

Judging from that Mercedes need to fill the seats left by di Resta and Spengler - as only Green and Paffett look like serious title contenders compared to Audi who have Tomcyzk, Ekstrom, Scheider and Rockenfeller; that's not even taking into account BMW. Audi need to chosoe between Mortara, Jarvis and Molina, one will have to go which will be a difficult decision. BMW have Spengler, Priaulx and Farfus which is a great lineup - I expect them to be joined by Jorg and Dirk Muller and Rast, or Werner; Heidfeld being a longshot.


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Posted 28 October 2011 - 11:07

So, BMW back in DTM after 1994. They have got an impressive lineup with Priaulx, Farfus and now Spengler announced. They will race six cars in 2012. Who will the other drivers be?
Last weedend 28 international drivers competed at Surfers Paradise in Australian V8 Supercars. These are evil spectacular beasts with 600+HP, narrow tyres, limited aero on a very tight track surrounded by concrete walls. Farfus was spectacular, tidy, did not ding anything and brought the car back to the prime driver in excellent shape. Priaulx had an excellent drive with a car which had a very bad run but his efort was superb. However Farfus is the future, brave clean able to adapt. My vote is Farfus to stay, Priaulx to stay and Spengler to fight for his drive
So which teams and drivers do you think will be dropped by Audi?

Maybe team Phoenix, but they just won the championship with Tomczyk who really did serve the team name.



And which teams and drivers do you think will be dropped by Mercedes?

Spengler is already gone



#13 puxanando

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 14:03

For interested people & BMW fans here 2 international FB sides:

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And I am one of the admins :wave:



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Posted 28 October 2011 - 14:49

Good thing for Spengler I guess.. Seems he was Mercedes ugly child which they kept at the back of the picture, hidden behind the fat cousin.

If he's not going to win the championship or get "courtesy" test drive in F1 anyway he might as well have a new challenge helping build out a team.

#15 DrProzac

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:45

I expect Heidfeld to race in DTM, most probably for BMW.

#16 Bleu

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 14:52

Mercedes: 8 drivers
Audi: 8 drivers
BMW: 6 drivers


How many new and how many old cars? I could assume Merc and Audi have six new and two old cars, then from 2013 BMW would have the same as they don't have old cars yet.

#17 beanoid

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 19:02

There is no "old car" for Audi in 2012--they're moving from the 4 to the 5, so everyone will have a "new" car.

driverider, also, I'm confused by your post--if Audi is fielding eight drivers, why would they need to ditch any of the seven you mentioned? ;)

#18 THE "driverider"

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 19:32

There is no "old car" for Audi in 2012--they're moving from the 4 to the 5, so everyone will have a "new" car.

driverider, also, I'm confused by your post--if Audi is fielding eight drivers, why would they need to ditch any of the seven you mentioned?;)

erm... quite right :drunk:

I cannot explain that

#19 beanoid

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 21:27

It's all right! I just wondered if I was losing my mind for a minute. :D

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#20 MrFondue

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 13:02

How come they don't allow genuine privateers to run and buy cars of their own accord, to privately enter with their own sponsors?


Well, they had Kolles' Futurecom TME team as privateers from 06 till 09 running two-year-old cars, but they were never really competitive.

#21 puxanando

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 21:18

:up: :up: it seems that Heidfeld firmed with Haug for Mercedes.. insider says! Would make me happy, cause I won't see him in BMW!

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 00:47

For interested people & BMW fans here 2 international FB sides:

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two

And I am one of the admins :wave:



hey thanks for the links, DTM will be far greater next year with BMW coming aboard, expect BMW to take this easily ;-)

oh and you can also view the entire DTM season live and archived on Speed2

#23 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 01:22

:up: :up: it seems that Heidfeld firmed with Haug for Mercedes.. insider says! Would make me happy, cause I won't see him in BMW!

Better BMW in my opinion. They are the loyal Heidfeld fans, who always supported Heidfeld. :up: Why drive for Mercedes who signed Schumi for F1 instead? :well:

Is Audi running the A5 or S5? It's the S5 right, to have a two-door car like the rest?

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 02:31

Better BMW in my opinion. They are the loyal Heidfeld fans, who always supported Heidfeld. :up: Why drive for Mercedes who signed Schumi for F1 instead? :well:

Is Audi running the A5 or S5? It's the S5 right, to have a two-door car like the rest?



its the A5, they will all have 2 doors.

#25 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 02:47

its the A5, they will all have 2 doors.

To be fair Audi have made it deliberately confusing by name both a coupe and a 4 door sedan-coupe with the same name "A5"!

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 02:57

To be fair Audi have made it deliberately confusing by name both a coupe and a 4 door sedan-coupe with the same name "A5"!


no your right and now BMW is following that model. it is confusing :drunk:

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 10:27

Better BMW in my opinion. They are the loyal Heidfeld fans, who always supported Heidfeld. :up: Why drive for Mercedes who signed Schumi for F1 instead? :well:

Is Audi running the A5 or S5? It's the S5 right, to have a two-door car like the rest?


You are not right! Heidfeld hasn't so much fans inside BMW. And I have a reasonable source that say : Heidfeld go to MercedesDTM & also will have a job as testdriver for MGP F1!
:up: Heidfeld to Mercedes DTM!


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Posted 04 November 2011 - 13:36

Heidfeld hasn't so much fans inside BMW.

That's why he drove for them during 5 years. :drunk:

Edited by QuickNick, 04 November 2011 - 13:37.


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Posted 04 November 2011 - 19:54

hey thanks for the links, DTM will be far greater next year with BMW coming aboard, expect BMW to take this easily ;-)

oh and you can also view the entire DTM season live and archived on Speed2


I like BMW's driver line up even though it's inferior to Audis

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:06

Tomczyk leaves AUDI

DTM champion Martin Tomczyk has quit Audi after more than a decade with the manufacturer.


The next superstar who will drive for BMW :love: :up:

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 13:00

Tomczyk leaves AUDI



The next superstar who will drive for BMW :love: :up:


Quite right too. I felt Audi treated him poorly by relegating him into an older car.

He had the last laugh though winning the championship.

Next season should be great with the 3 manufacturers.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 15:08

Quite right too. I felt Audi treated him poorly by relegating him into an older car.

He had the last laugh though winning the championship.

Next season should be great with the 3 manufacturers.


yeah it seems Dr. Ullrich is trying to justify his desicion to demote Tomczyk now that he won the championship in an older car but now he'll be appreciated at the new DTM king squad(BMW). and yes im a little biased on that. :p

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 15:16

Quiet excited about this year. DTM since it has been Audi v's Merc has generally been a poor series with poor racing. Hopefully a 3rd manufacturer will help. The future looks good for the series, and race spec too.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 16:39

yeah it seems Dr. Ullrich is trying to justify his desicion to demote Tomczyk now that he won the championship in an older car but now he'll be appreciated at the new DTM king squad(BMW). and yes im a little biased on that. :p


And also taking the #1 with him will annoy Dr Ullrich. :lol:

Cars looking much better for next season too.



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Posted 21 November 2011 - 21:12

BMW steals......

From whom will be the title of this article? :drunk:

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 23:27

BMW - Tomcyzk, Spengler, Priaulx, Farfus, Jorg Muller, Rast

I must say that is a quality lineup - if the final two happen.

Edited by THE "driverider", 21 November 2011 - 23:29.


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 23:49

BMW - Tomcyzk, Spengler, Priaulx, Farfus, Jorg Muller, Rast

I must say that is a quality lineup - if the final two happen.


They seem to be putting a fair bit of financial weight behind the project... puts some more light on Mini's comments about BMW being more reticent about the WRC project due to DTM...

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 23:51

They seem to be putting a fair bit of financial weight behind the project... puts some more light on Mini's comments about BMW being more reticent about the WRC project due to DTM...

There is no doubt they had to take drivers from other teams with experience of the series. But taking the champion and the 3rd place driver is a mighty effort, good luck to them.

Audi - Ekstrom, Scheider, Rockenfeller, Mortara, Jarvis, Molina, (I guess Albuquerque)

Edited by THE "driverider", 22 November 2011 - 00:04.


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Posted 22 November 2011 - 00:13

Quiet excited about this year. DTM since it has been Audi v's Merc has generally been a poor series with poor racing.

Until the cars can bang panels without half the bodywork falling off that will not be fixed IMO.
Even F1 car is less fragile than DTM car IMO.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 00:24

There is no doubt they had to take drivers from other teams with experience of the series. But taking the champion and the 3rd place driver is a mighty effort, good luck to them.

Audi - Ekstrom, Scheider, Rockenfeller, Mortara, Jarvis, Molina, (I guess Albuquerque)


So where are we up to with driver line-ups next year?

BMW - Confirmed: Spengler, Priaulx, Farfus. Rumoured: Tomczyk, Rast, Muller, Heidfeld (though not so much recently).

Audi - as above

Mercedes - Paffett, Schumacher, Green, Coulthard??? Who else?

Didn't Joey Hand test the BMW DTM car recently... is he another name to consider? Or will he just stick to BMW GT's....

Edited by DanardiF1, 22 November 2011 - 00:25.


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Posted 22 November 2011 - 09:38

Mercedes - Paffett, Schumacher, Green, Coulthard??? Who else?


 ;) I think Nick Heidfeld


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Posted 22 November 2011 - 10:08

Interesting question is if Audi and Mercedes keep their women if BMW signs 6 men ? or will BMW find anywhere a lady to drive?

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 14:19

BMW has a power line up for next year and given the new aero specs these cars won't be as fragile or aero dependent, downforce will be less next year.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 15:00

BMW has a power line up for next year and given the new aero specs these cars won't be as fragile or aero dependent, downforce will be less next year.


Imho Audi still has the best line up, I'm just a bit worried looking at Merc right now.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 15:13

First video.......

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 15:14

So where are we up to with driver line-ups next year?

BMW - Confirmed: Spengler, Priaulx, Farfus. Rumoured: Tomczyk, Rast, Muller, Heidfeld (though not so much recently).

Audi - as above

Mercedes - Paffett, Schumacher, Green, Coulthard??? Who else?

Didn't Joey Hand test the BMW DTM car recently... is he another name to consider? Or will he just stick to BMW GT's....

Nick Heidfeld is a good shout, maybe Mika Hakkinen at a stretch. But Mercedes need to fill the voids left by di Resta and Spengler; maybe Bird, Turvey or Merhi. (or Senna)

I'd say right now...

Mercedes: Paffett, Green, Heidfeld, Schumacher, Coulthard, Wolff, (young driver above)

Edited by THE "driverider", 22 November 2011 - 15:16.


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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:45

Tomczyk FIXED in BMW

His first test with his new team will be in december in Monteblanco/Spain!

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 13:05

Interesting question is if Audi and Mercedes keep their women if BMW signs 6 men ? or will BMW find anywhere a lady to drive?


I was wondering about that, mainly because they were both Brits so I'd been keeping an eye on them. Though it shows how little I follow DTM that I assumed Katherine Legge was still Audi's girl.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 14:14

PERHAPS Grosjean will test BMW M3!

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:04

Grosjean & Wittmann will test for BMW M3 on Monteblanco Circuit near Sevilla!