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Welcome back, Mick.
What a great little Minor. That Kleinig head would be rarer than a Mazengarb, wouldn't it?
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Spoke to Frank this afternoon. He said that he used machine those heads as an 11 yr old on his way home from school as a way of getting out of homework!If you're fascinated by that combustion chamber, you've never looked at many flathead engines!
Maybe Clive Gibson knows something about it?
Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:45
It makes Australias own look sophisticated in comparison.I can see now why we have such restrictive legislation on modifying production cars ! How did people survive with
outrageous hotted-up death traps prowling the cities and suburbs !!
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headlights down beside grill rather than up on top of mudguards. for US market regulations like bugeye sprite i wonder?I've not seen the term 'Lowlight' used before in Moggie Minor context (but then I'm not really into Minors). What does it mean? I know of the original side valve MM, the Series 2 with OHV 'A Series' engine from the A30 and the 1000 with the 948 and later 1275 'A' Series engines.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 17:46
Yes, the original Morris Minor used the 918cc side-valve Morris Eight engine, which was replaced by the 803cc ohv from the Austin A30, and then the 948cc ohv when it became the Morris Minor 1000 (and the A30 became the A35)
Edited by RTH, 02 November 2011 - 17:57.
Posted 02 November 2011 - 19:46
Spot on David as usual.
In its final version ADO 59 from 1962 to the end in 1971 the engine capacity was 1098cc.. in the late 60s the Police bought vast numbers of the run out model and were used as panda cars, all painted turquoise and white ( this was by then a design more than 20 years old and not much good for chasing anyone,) certainly in the met area and no doubt across the country then to be replaced by the A1100/1300 2drs then in '73 the Allegro
Posted 02 November 2011 - 21:18
Love the craquelure on the paintwork - should be in an art gallery.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 01:19
Originally posted by Sharman
.....The 918 sidevalve had a surprising amount of torque. we used to tow a Healey on a trailer with one until the Healey's owner's mother bought an 848 Mini and then we used that but that is another story....
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:22
The original was about 850 sidevalve and then the first OHV were about 850 too and then the ultimate, the big bloc 1000. Which I think was a long stroke 1000 unlike Minis which were short stroke.Thanx both.
I think the 848 and 998 'A' series were only in the Mini
Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:25
These days better known as lowlife Minors!'Lowlight' MMs were the first design, with headlights mounted in the grille. Later models had them on the wings, above the grille (and are sometimes known as "highlight" Minors)
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:49
Then 'number 3s' came into this, I'm quite sure!
Number 3 big end should have failed regularly, it would slip out of third gear without warrant too, I daresay.
Nobody in Australia would (surely?) have dared tow anything remotely like a Healey with such a car.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:53
No, see post no 15.The original was about 850 sidevalve and then the first OHV were about 850 too and then the ultimate, the big bloc 1000. Which I think was a long stroke 1000 unlike Minis which were short stroke.
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I remember back in the early '70s a guy I knew dropped a somewhat modded 1600 Ford cross flow engine into one, best thing that could ever happen to a Morrie Minor!
Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:59
Australia never got the 1098cc version of the Minor, the Australian arm of BMC did a big reorganisation and rationalization in 1961 when they merged the Austin and Morris dealerships and dropped a lot of poor selling and obsolete models. The Minor was dropped and so was the A40 Farina and a few other models.No, see post no 15.
918 like the E-type Morris 8, then 803 like the A30, 948 like the A35 and finally long-stroke 1098 as per MOWG 1100s.
Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:01
And Holdens of all descriptions, and 1 with a 200 Falcon motorI remember back in the early '70s a guy I knew dropped a somewhat modded 1600 Ford cross flow engine into one, best thing that could ever happen to a Morrie Minor!
Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:15
No, this was a mousey grey one at Mildura, at the time probably the 'hot car capital' (per capita) in Victoria.the Black Ute at Ultimo Tech??;)
Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:19
Alway thought a six was a bit big for the Minor, the Ford four was a sweet fit. Would like to see one now with a Millington BDA & 6 speed sequential - ultimate Q car?!And Holdens of all descriptions, and 1 with a 200 Falcon motor. Though B series BMC and Cortinas were alweays a favorite, as are these days Japanese A12s eg Datto 1200s
Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:33
Hey there was good Holden powered Minors, average ones and bloody awfull. The best was a a lowlife with the grey motors front engine mount on the front bumper!! The radiator sort of had a cradle in front of that.Though basically hanging on the hoses. And it was around for several months!Alway thought a six was a bit big for the Minor, the Ford four was a sweet fit. Would like to see one now with a Millington BDA & 6 speed sequential - ultimate Q car?!
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Hey there was good Holden powered Minors, average ones and bloody awfull. The best was a a lowlife with the grey motors front engine mount on the front bumper!! The radiator sort of had a cradle in front of that.Though basically hanging on the hoses. And it was around for several months!
All those expensive Cortina and MGB motor were far too expensive compared with a grey, and had less power.
In the 70s there was Holden powered Minors, Anglias, Cortinas, Heralds, Simcas. Because they were dirt cheap and went quite well.
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My thoughts are that the tooling and production costs would have been the main reason for the split front bumper. In the late '50 when I worked on them [smash repairs], they were much easier to repair, and chrome plating was simpler.I see the barn car has the split front bumper, can anyone enlighten me as to how this factory fitted mistake actually came about? I recall it had something to do with the cars original planned width. Are there any other modified narrow parts fitted on this car ?
Posted 03 November 2011 - 20:37
Lord Nuffield decided the car was too narrow so they cut the mock up in half and moved the two halves apart until he was happy (hence the ridge down the bonnet). But the first batch of bumpers had been manufactured and in that age of materials shortages nothing could be scrapped ...Lee, the v4 and v6 Ford engines and gearboxes were a great swop. I did several vans in my service fleet ,as well as some customer cars
On this side of the ditch we had the Garth Souness Morrari lowlite all comers saloon.
I see the barn car has the split front bumper, can anyone enlighten me as to how this factory fitted mistake actually came about? I recall it had something to do with the cars original planned width. Are there any other modified narrow parts fitted on this car ?
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 04:07
Apology for double thread hijack,but was looking at Lake Gairdner results from 2010 and spotted one G.Mackie credited with 156mph in a Karmann Ghia.What's the story Greg ? And what went wrong in the VW beetle ?Alf Mazengarb produced an overhead valve head in Australia.
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Interesting A7 Special, history ? If that is a 'fiddle' brake on the outside did it do some trialling ? tidied up that will be a nice car.
Posted 04 November 2011 - 10:45
Nothing 'went wrong' with the Beetle - Set a new 'World Record' for a stock 36hp Beetle [75.1MPH]. The Yanks didn't allow it though, because of a mix-up as to the timing method used.
This year the attempt was abandoned, due to flooding of the salt lake [5" of water].......next year, perhaps?
Sorry for the MINOR intrusion onto your thread, Mick
Cheers, Greg
Posted 04 November 2011 - 10:46
Not a trials fiddle brake sytem - that would have two levers so that each rear wheel could be controlled independently.
As you say, that looks a nice special; fully fettled i would suggest around £8,000 in the UK, so do your own sums as to its value in barn-find state...
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 17:24
But I thought Beetles floated?Nothing 'went wrong' with the Beetle - Set a new 'World Record' for a stock 36hp Beetle [75.1MPH]. The Yanks didn't allow it though, because of a mix-up as to the timing method used.
This year the attempt was abandoned, due to flooding of the salt lake [5" of water].......next year, perhaps?
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 20:51
Originally posted by D-Type
Lord Nuffield decided the car was too narrow so they cut the mock up in half and moved the two halves apart until he was happy (hence the ridge down the bonnet). But the first batch of bumpers had been manufactured and in that age of materials shortages nothing could be scrapped ...
... or something like that.....
.....By the way, what was special about the Kleinig head? It is obviously a period Australian made aftermarket tuning part, but still side valve although someone (was it Alta?) had produced an OHV conversion.
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