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#1951 montoyasminion

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 17:51

Trucks at VIR would be awesome.

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#1952 the9th

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 20:07

Kurtis to Furniture Row.

And that should be, virtually, the 4th RCR team next year. I trust he'll have good equipment.

#1953 pingu666

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 23:53

trucks at sobo is crazy, its one of the most cramped tracks ever. in a legends car.

(1 min in for sobo)

#1954 Risil

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 23:59

Was wondering when someone would bring up iRacing. :p Man I miss that game.

#1955 Jim Thurman

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 16:10

According to Ray Dunlap, the top two short tracks likely added for the 2013 truck schedule are Myrtle Beach Speedway and South Boston. The road course (only one will be used most likely) is likely going to be Mid-Ohio; Mosport, Virginia International, or Lime Rock was in the rumor mill but are less likely. Portland International Raceway is a super longshot.

Most of you guys probably don't remember when the Truck series started, it was almost entirely short tracks. The racing was outstanding. When short tracks aren't clogged with 43 cars they make for remarkably good racing :)

Also, many probably don't recall when the Trucks ran a few road courses: Sears Point, Heartland Park, Portland International Raceway. Some might remember Watkins Glen.

I'm for both :up:

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#1956 Dilla

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:29

Regan Smith may be out of the 78 at Charlotte onward.

#1957 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:42

Regan Smith may be out of the 78 at Charlotte onward.

So who has this season put in the weeds?
Dinger
Smith
Last season was R. Gordon
La Bonte amazingly is in 24th, but thats a ride for new blood.
I'd say Kvapil and McDowell will be never weres at this point, but who knows.
I'd love to see Hornish farmed out to full time ride, if you look hard at the standings, right now NASCAR is not all that deep when it comes to wheelers...



#1958 gm914

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:54

I can't wait to see the new Furniture Row commercials with Kurt.

We should see him delivering a new couch to someone's home, then taking the old one away and beating the shit out of it in the back of a truck.



#1959 Dilla

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 05:42

#43 looks like the "open" ride left, and that is looking like it'll go back to Almirola. Understandable, first full Sprint Cup season in a car that was in a bit of disarray last offseason. He deserves another year.

There's nothing signed with #47 and David Reutimann visited the shop back in August, but Tad Geschickter said he had a handshake deal with Labonte to return in 2013. He wants to expand next year or in 2014, sponsors permitting.

Regan Smith will have a job somewhere running full races next year methinks, probably BK Racing or Tommy Baldwin or Front Row.

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#1960 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 18:25

Give this man a Cup ride and lots of air time.

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#1961 Dilla

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 00:47

Finch is looking for a driver with money to continue in 2013 and beyond.

Kurt Busch hopes to get a head start on the 2013 NASCAR Sprint Cup season by jumping in the #78 Furniture Row Chevy early. The next chapter of the Busch saga could begin as early as in two weeks at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Aligning with the team before the end of the season would offer Busch an opportunity to acclimate to the group and its systems for the final six races of the season. "He's going to be out after Talladega," said Phoenix Racing team owner James Finch, for whom Busch currently drives. "We're going to go down there and try to win that race. We were up front for most of the spring race, and Brad (Keselowski) dumped us with three or four to go. We'll be fine at Talladega." So who would fill the Phoenix Racing seat currently occupied by Busch? Since Finch has operated for most of 2012 sans sponsorship, he's looking at candidates "who have the potential" to bring financial support to the team for the final six race and possibly next year. Finch has spoken to representation for AJ Allmendinger, who has been sidelined since July 7, when he was suspended for testing positive for amphetamine the week before at Kentucky Speedway. Regan Smith, who will be displaced in the #78 Chevy by Busch, could be part of an easy swap with the #51 Phoenix team. Finch isn't limited to considering Sprint Cup candidates. He also has been approached by the camps of Nationwide Series drivers James Buescher and Justin Allgaier.(Fox Sports)(9-27-2012)


Jon Wes Townley to the 51.

#1962 gm914

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:04

Jon Wes Townley to the 51.


Say it ain't so, pa.
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Finch, no matter how big the sponsorship from Zaxbys will be, won't have the money to repair all those wrecked cars.

Allmendinger is an interesting prospect. Jumping into another ex-Kurt ride?

Kinda like that guy who asks you if he can get your ex-girlfriend's phone number the day after you've broken up. :lol:

Edited by gm914, 28 September 2012 - 01:05.


#1963 Dilla

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:11

Some contract news for next year.

Gibbs looking to extend Busch's contract: Next season is expected to produce a top crop of free agents in the Sprint Cup market - but if Joe Gibbs Racing has its way, #18-Kyle Busch's name will never reach the rumor mill. Principals at Gibbs Racing are working diligently to renew Busch's contract before it expires next season. According to sources, Gibbs approached Busch on an extension in the last couple of months and hopes to retain one of NASCAR's top talents. "They typically do (contracts before the expiration date)," Busch said. "They've brought it up to my attention. I just kind of put it off to, 'Let's get through, let's see what happens in the Chase.' Since we missed that, it's kind of like, now they want to re-talk about it. I'm like, let's just wait until the end of the year. There's no sense in causing a distraction."(Fox Sports)(9-30-2012)


Hornish still without contract for 2013: Despite repeated assertions by Penske Racing owner Roger Penske that he wants Sam Hornish, Jr., back in a full time NASCAR Nationwide Series ride next season, the former Indianapolis 500 champion says he has no signed contract in place for 2013. "I don't have any paper in my hand saying what's going to happen next year," said Hornish. "I know Roger's been out there (in the media) saying he'd like to have me back, but we'll just have to wait and see how everything plays out. We've got some really good sponsors and we're moving forward on some other ones, but it's a really tough time with the economy. Hornish said that uncertainty, combined with Penske's recent decision to sign Joey Logano to drive the team's #22 Shell Pennzoil-sponsored Sprint Cup Series Ford next season, has made for a difficult few weeks. "We're going to do the best we can to cap off this season on a high note with both (Nationwide and Sprint Cup) cars, then see what the future holds for us." (Godfather Motorsports)(9-29-2012)



#1964 Bloggsworth

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 17:28

No need to, at least from my part. All I'm trying to say is that it'd b sad if they weren't putting the right emphasis on Johanna's performances in fear that it would detract from all the Danica hype. I' like to think they can both coexist. Pony, and partners (sponsors, NASCAR, anyone that has invested in her), have made good use of the fact that she's a (or perhaps 'the') woman.


I think it's "a good thing" that Johanna is missing the hype, it allows her to concentrate on racing, at which she is very impressive, and long term in NASCAR, probably has more potential than Patrick; by keeping a low profile she won't get distracted.

#1965 Dilla

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 00:27

DOVER, Del. -- Marcos Ambrose told ESPN.com on Sunday he is close to completing a new deal with Richard Petty Motorsports.

"We're all good,'' Ambrose said before the third race of the Chase at Dover International Speedway.

Sources said RPM soon will announce a new deal with Ford as well as the signing of Ambrose.

Ford Motorsports director Jamie Allison said two weeks ago at Chicagoland a deal with RPM was close.

Sources said there also have been talks with Aric Almirola about possibly returning to the No. 43.


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#1966 Pikachu Racing

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 01:35

Sam should have stayed or returned to Indycar instead getting screwed around NASCAR circles

#1967 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 01:38

Why leave a series where you make millions for one where you have to find millions.

Especially as he's starting to get the hang of NASCAR.

#1968 Dilla

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 02:05

Sam should have stayed or returned to Indycar instead getting screwed around NASCAR circles

Screwed around? Hornish have been given more opportunities than anyone else with similar results due to being with Penske.

#1969 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 02:49

Why leave a series where you make millions for one where you have to find millions.
Especially as he's starting to get the hang of NASCAR.

Face it, no OW racer transplant has been worth the dough in the last five years.
Hornish may have finally gotten it, but it's taken bajillions to get there and his clock is running out for anywhere near a 10 year return like Logano will have..
Name an OW wheel that has been in the thick of it in NASCAR, and you won't find one.
I seriously thought Montoya would leave a mark.
Ain't gonna happen. Team, skill in a ton and half sled, whatever.
Speed, fail, w/ Red Bull bucks.
'dinger, ditto.
The only remote possibility I see of a quality OW wheel in NASCAR have a shot is Piquet, with a HUGE dish of maybe included.
Putting quantum bucks into a NASCAR ride for an OW racer is a sure lose.
Oops, forgot the Danica black-hole of spending for a winner...
TBH, playing Moneyball in NASCAR right would favor a Hornish or Ambrose on my whiteboard.
Good drivers, but they have no sponsors to cover the salary, and the by sell date is rapidly approaching them.



#1970 Pikachu Racing

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:24

Of the major open-wheel invasion have anyone been actually successful at it? Dario Franchitti tried and when the money ran out he made the right move and returned back. Scott Speed, once with Red Bull Racing connection, hanging around with a start and park team. You can say he bombed both in F1 and NASCAR. AJ Allemendinger after being getting lifeline after lifeline only to blow his chance this year. Where AJ Foyt IV after getting laughed out of now Nationwide series despite AJ Foyt objection? NASCAR can keep Danica Patrick after she wore her Indycar welcome mat long time ago. Nelson Piquet Jr might be the closest but still got long way to go. So far its just giant bust and likely career suicide jumping from open wheel to stock car now if you can't produce within a time frame.

#1971 gm914

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:07

Help us Nelsinho Piquet...you're our only hope.

Don't forget Tony Stewart. He's done ok for himself in these bangers :)


#1972 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:09

Don't forget Tony Stewart. He's done ok for himself in these bangers :)

He grew up with dirt in his teeth, like Jeff Gordon, if anything, he showed the OW guys it wasn't all that...


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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:13

Stewart, obviously. And Casey Mears has stuck around despite washing out at Hendrick and Childress. Got a win to his name as well. Montoya has two wins to his credit; no ovals, though.

Obviously, I think one of the biggest issue involved is that many of the bigger named open-wheel guys that jumped were thrown right into the top series (with maybe a Nationwide or two to be approved for Daytona the previous season). I can understand how basically starting over at a lower series after success at a top series in another league can be frustrating and I imagine that it stretches a man's pride quite a bit, but it's almost needed to adapt properly and get up to pace.

I think Nelson has a good shot, he put aside any pride he might have had and is sticking with Trucks until he feels comfortable. Also, unlike some other open-wheelers, he's basically one of the guys now, buddying up with the entire Hendrick team, so he has made connections in the garage.

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#1974 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:24

Stewart, obviously. And Casey Mears has stuck around despite washing out at Hendrick and Childress. Got a win to his name as well. Montoya has two wins to his credit; no ovals, though.

Obviously, I think one of the biggest issue involved is that many of the bigger named open-wheel guys that jumped were thrown right into the top series (with maybe a Nationwide or two to be approved for Daytona the previous season). I can understand how basically starting over at a lower series after success at a top series in another league can be frustrating and I imagine that it stretches a man's pride quite a bit, but it's almost needed to adapt properly and get up to pace.

I think Nelson has a good shot, he put aside any pride he might have had and is sticking with Trucks until he feels comfortable. Also, unlike some other open-wheelers, he's basically one of the guys now, buddying up with the entire Hendrick team, so he has made connections in the garage.

Csey Mears will soon be hanging with Robby Gordon, just another example of a never was from the OW camp.
The up from the bootstraps method is the only reason I'm giving Piquet any slack for the future.

#1975 gm914

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:27

Of all the guys with OW experience, I'd like to see Kubica, if he's ever fully fit enough, come on over and give it a shot, at least try it out.
Marketing-wise he's a bit of a zero, but I reckon he'd like the hard style of racing.



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Posted 02 October 2012 - 00:55

[Team president J.D.] Gibbs & confirmed the possibility that JGR could hire Nationwide Series point leader Elliott Sadler and Brian Vickers to drive full-time in the Nationwide Series next season. "That's a potential,'' Gibbs said. "I think we have to wait a little while before we can say anything officially.'' Sadler, who has made it clear he will not return to Richard Childress Racing after this season, would drive one car with OneMain Financial as the primary sponsor. He also is expected to drive a part-time Sprint Cup schedule. Vickers would drive the second car with Dollar General as the sponsor. Gibbs said the plan is to field a third car for his Cup drivers and developmental drivers Drew Herring and Darrell Wallace Jr. to share.(ESPN.com)(9-30-2012)


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#1977 gm914

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 01:26

What is wrong with that man? Wallace needs to be full-time. Pfft, Vickers. :confused:

Hopefully they've got something planned with KBM in the truck series for Bubba.

#1978 GustavoB

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 16:23

Since Montoya arrived I've been following NASCAR, nowadays much closer on the truck side because of Piquet. I was thinking about the Nationwide series and I have a question for you guys....

How do you rate the Nationwide Series?

It seems to me that Nationwide is in a kind of limbo. They are not so cheaper to race as the truck series, so it's hard to find a package of sponsors to do the entire season. They don't have so much coverage as the Sprint Cup, and it's almost so hard to win because almost every race they have 3 or 4 cup drivers on it.
They have 3 classes of drivers, drivers from the Sprint Cup, drivers racing for the Nationwide Cup and race-by-race drivers and this is the main reason that I think the championship boring. Almost 60% of the field you don't know who is racing each car because each race is a different driver, often who wins doesn't runs the championship.
One of the best things from the Sprint Cup and the Trucks is that I know almost 90% of the drivers too.
What you guys think?

Edited by GustavoB, 02 October 2012 - 16:24.


#1979 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 16:39

What you guys think?

Personally, I like the NW series, the races are the right distance. The revolving drivers issue has merit however, I too don't like the NASCAR drivers cherry picking races. Coverage here in the US isn't an issue with me, I can see every race I want to. The one off drivers coming in for the road races I really like. It's also a series that EVERY potential NASCAR driver should do at least a full year in, and I think it's a good series to really pick out the up and comers from. Sponsorship is an issue, there really seems to be not much of a problem with finding entries, but in reality I think the NASCAR regulars should stay in Cup and limit the entries to about 30-35 really solid cars. That would allow the teams to get good sponsorship, but alot of of the one offs enable regional sponsorship.
My 2 cents...

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#1980 Dilla

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 20:47

It should be noted that Piquet doesn't have contract next year yet. The Turner deal was for one year; however, with his sponsors and now the victories, it should be relatively easy to find a ride.

Interesting note: Almirola and the 43 team has had about 21 different different paint schemes (or liveries) so far this year.

Edited by Dilla, 02 October 2012 - 20:55.


#1981 gm914

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 20:58

Not to sound petty, but I wish WISH there was a car I could support in NASCAR that recognizes my need for quality bacon, franks, lunchmeats, sausage and hams.

When will my eternal search end...?

Edited by gm914, 02 October 2012 - 21:00.


#1982 Andrew Hope

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 21:35

Not to sound petty, but I wish WISH there was a car I could support in NASCAR that recognizes my need for quality bacon, franks, lunchmeats, sausage and hams.

When will my eternal search end...?


Your search will end when the NASCAR thread regulars here all finally pitch in $50 to buy us a Sprint cup car and we get that bitch sponsored by every small town meat shop and deli in the country. Then we get creative with the paint scheme, doing the spoiler up to look like a hot dog, running #00 so we can slap two giant hamburgers on the side of the car, etc. We can even have the roof flaps painted up to look like those awful veggie burgers, the message obviously being 'If you see these, you've made some bad decisions lately', which is just as true for seeing the roof flaps come up on your car as it is to see veggie burgers on your BBQ.

#1983 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 22:57

Back in the Day© I wanted to pitch Baskin Robbins on a Cup sponsorship, my logic being purely the fun we could have with the paintjob. I figured we'd have a basic livery in their standard model but we'd have an area that would change every race to represent a new flavour. I thought maybe the car number might be a compromise, or some sort of stripe. So it would be light green with black bits to represent mint chocolate chip, you know? We'd give ice cream to the announcers so they'd give us free plugs, all that kind of scandal.

Two problems I encountered

-At the time they didn't have enough, or had too many, flavours to match having a different flavour every race.

-How the hell I was going to get the number 31 from Childress, or not lose the sponsor to Childress.

As I recall I didn't get very far :p

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#1984 GustavoB

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 23:46

We can create a kickstarter project to sponsor a Sprint Cup car. :p



#1985 pingu666

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:05

don't kingsford do sausages and bbq stuff? They sponsored ambrose.

cargill beef sponsor ricky stenhouse, but that's cow not pig

how about pedagree with kyle bush? Sure they must do some form of pig

#1986 Dilla

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:27

Believe that gm was making a (b)un-ny joke about Almirola's primary sponsor, Smithfield Foods, a meat processing company that uses various schemes to promote their meaty goodness.

Pedigree is dog food. :lol:

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:45

Believe that gm was making a (b)un-ny joke about Almirola's primary sponsor, Smithfield Foods, a meat processing company that uses various schemes to promote their meaty goodness.

Pedigree s a dog food. :lol:


Ha-ha, Ringo gets it! Thought someone might have cottoned on when I said "Not to sound petty".

Gwaltney to wrap #43 Ford at Talladega Superspeedway:
Gwaltney Foods, producer of quality bacon, franks, lunchmeats, sausage and hams, will wrap Aric Almirola's #43 Ford with its signature red and yellow colors for the October 7, 2012 race at Talladega Superspeedway.
"Gwaltney is a trusted family brand with over 140 year history of producing the quality meat products at a popular price point," said Will Brunt, Vice President of Marketing at Smithfield Packing.
"Gwaltney proudly boasts America's number-one rated chicken frank and bologna, and we're excited to be running our prize sweepstakes in conjunction with the Talladega race, as many of our customers are stock-car racing fans."(Richard Petty Motorsports)(10-2-2012)


To be honest I think I'd rather try the Pedigree.

Edited by gm914, 03 October 2012 - 02:49.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 03:19

He grew up with dirt in his teeth, like Jeff Gordon, if anything, he showed the OW guys it wasn't all that...


Perhaps you should start calling it formula car racers instead of open wheel. A 410 sprint is every bit an open wheel car. I would agree that the formula car guys aren't catching on. Though the converse is also true. Guys that grew up on circle track have a difficult time coming over to road racing. Though not very many do because even at the low end there many more opportunities in the US in circle track.

Edited by loki, 03 October 2012 - 03:20.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 03:23

Of all the guys with OW experience, I'd like to see Kubica, if he's ever fully fit enough, come on over and give it a shot, at least try it out.
Marketing-wise he's a bit of a zero, but I reckon he'd like the hard style of racing.



I don't know at this point if ol' Bob K is going to be racing anything again at the top level. Testing tires is one thing but I don't know if he's recovered enough to run in any top series at this point. He's lucky to be alive much less still have his arm.

#1990 Dilla

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 14:01

FOX is close to re-newing their NASCAR deal for 2014 onward. NBC is interested in returning to NASCAR.

http://www.cbssports...re-looks-bright



#1991 Magoo

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 15:53

AND Fox will be streaming NASCAR live in 2013.

http://www.usatoday....verage/1608435/



#1992 Magoo

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 15:54

Oscar Meyer has a car but it's not competitive.

#1993 gm914

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 16:33

Oscar Meyer has a car but it's not competitive.

No front-end bite.

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#1994 Andrew Hope

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 17:05

'Ever since we stayed out on these tires it's been like driving on bacon grease out there'.

#1995 Juablo

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 00:03

Stenhouse ran exhausts exiting out of the rear of the car during testing today, interesting.
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Also a big picture of the SS for next year, you can pick out a few more of the details under the camo paintscheme.
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Finally, a fully liveried up 2013 car on track
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#1996 pingu666

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:29

rear exhaust would fix the cut tyre problem, id like that :)

#1997 gm914

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:50

^ looks great. Check out how inward the wheels are compared to those flared arches. :eek:
No more black donuts on the doors.

And rear exhausts? Wha? It may cut down on tire-cutting but won't the cars behind be catching all that hot gas to the radiator?

#1998 Dilla

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:08

Stenhouse ran exhausts exiting out of the rear of the car during testing today, interesting.

Roush called it a "science project" that NASCAR was interested in.

I'm thinking the new Chevy will debut at Charlotte race weekend. That is my hope at least.

Edited by Dilla, 04 October 2012 - 03:09.


#1999 montoyasminion

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:32

Thats a damn good looking car.

Instantly thought of Kyle Petty.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:14

Lookit the table with all the guys at laptops! Not your grandaddy's NASCAR. The rear exhausts are definitely interesting and do indeed bring up the thought of cooling for the trailing car in the draft.