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#201 Dilla

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 19:02

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#202 nosaj100

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 01:04

SPEED has started showing its HoF documentaries for the 2012 NASCAR HoF class. Cale Yarborough and Dale Inman aired last night (I've posted the reairing schedule below). I saw both and I highly recommend them.

Schedule



12/12
8:00am ET
Cale Yarborough


12/12
9:00am ET
Dale Inman


12/12
10:00am ET
Cale Yarborough


12/16
8:00pm ET
Richie Evans


12/16
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Cale Yarborough



#203 Juablo

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 19:02

Steven Wallace on his Sprint Cup debut
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#204 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 19:09

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How long did it take you to find a picture of a crashed Steven Wallace racecar?

#205 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 19:34

That's probably the pace lap.

#206 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 19:44

:lol:

#207 Juablo

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 19:44

How long did it take you to find a picture of a crashed Steven Wallace racecar?

Not long tbh :lol:

#208 Dilla

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 01:12

lol I was going to use Robert Pressley, but that'll work. :lol:

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#209 PretentiousBread

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 16:49

For anyone who hasn't heard it, I thought ya'll would enjoy this:



The Gregory bros' stuff is genuinely better than most of the crap in the charts, and they don't even take themselves seriously.

Edited by PretentiousBread, 12 December 2011 - 16:53.


#210 jonpollak

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 18:31

For anyone who hasn't heard it, I thought ya'll would enjoy this:



The Gregory bros' stuff is genuinely better than most of the crap in the charts, and they don't even take themselves seriously.



THAT'S WONDERFUL.
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#211 Dilla

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 18:43

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#212 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 19:02

lol I was going to use Robert Pressley, but that'll work. :lol:

When I worked at Brady's Citgo in College Park MD, we were a dealer for Jasper engines and I always used to root for the yellow #77 car.

#213 pingu666

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 10:49

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derrick cope 2009, daytona qualifying :)

#214 Dilla

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 20:27

RPM considering Kurt Busch in #43 car? Sirius XM NASCAR Radio's Sirius Speedway with Dave Moody has learned that in an effort to retain sponsor Best Buy, Richard Petty Motorsports has proposed replacing AJ Allmendinger as driver of the legendary #43 Ford with Busch. RPM struggled to re-sign Best Buy a year ago, negotiating until early January before inking a one-year contract. The electronics retailer served as major sponsor of the #43 team in 26 events this season.

Richard Petty Motorsports Chief Operating Officer Robbie Loomis confirmed today that discussions have been held regarding Busch, saying, "Best Buy has been a great partner for a long time, and AJ Allmendinger has done a fantastic job for us. He's coming off his best season yet, but I can tell you there is a lot of interest on our part in having Kurt Busch in the fold. It makes sense to have Kurt with our team, if we can make it work.

"Our main focus is to continue building on what we finished the season with last year," said Loomis. "But right now, I feel like I'm running down two different sets of train tracks. From a personal standpoint, nothing has excited me more than when I heard Kurt had become available. I'm excited about the opportunity to add a driver like Kurt Busch to Richard Petty Motorsports. I would mortgage my house to make Kurt a part of this team. We value what he has done on the race track. He has won a (Sprint Cup) championship and worked for a first-class operation like Penske Racing. Guys like that don't come along every day."

Allmendinger finished 15th in 2011 Sprint Cup Series championship points, with one Top-5 and 10 Top-10 finishes. His best finish was a fifth in the Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte Motor Speedway in late May. Busch won a pair of races this season at Infineon and Dover en route to 11th in points, tallying eight Top-5 and 16 Top-10 finishes. He parted company with Penske Racing earlier this month, in the aftermath of a much-publicized verbal confrontation with ESPN pit reporter Dr. Jerry Punch during the 2011 season finale at Homestead Miami Speedway (Sirius Speedway)(12-13-2011)

Er wow, I don't know about this. Kinda dirty, but whatever is necessary to retain your primary sponsor, I suppose. Personally though, I hope AJ can keep his ride, I don't think the Best Buy people know what they are getting themselves into here. I want to see AJ stay in a Ford, but if Kurt does in up replacing him; hopefully, it'll be quick enough so that he can be in the running for the Penske ride.

Edit: I've also noticed that nothing was said about AJ being let go, but if they are having trouble retaining Best Buy at this point, searching for another full-time sponsor at this point would be really late to the game. Bowyer had 5 Hour Energy already attached to him when RPM offered a contract to him.

Jack Roush may have something to say about this too.

Edited by Dilla, 13 December 2011 - 20:51.


#215 Juablo

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 20:31

Sucks for AJ if it's true, but it could work out well for him. There's still a seat going at Penske and he seems a good fit imo. He's definitely the best option performance wise and more importantly for Shell, sponsor friendly.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 21:02

Tom Jensen has tweeted (?) AJA has lost his 43 ride.

#217 Dilla

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 21:04

Dollar rules.

Penske for Allmendinger, I guess. For the record, I didn't mind if Kurt got another competitive ride, I just didn't expect it to be in place of a car/driver combo that I really liked. :|

To add some more sting for AJ:

Damn.

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#218 Crafty

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 21:15

RPM think it will help to retain best buy if they hire Kurt ? that kinda goes against what Shell and M&Ms said when faced with negative PR due to the busch boys.

So now Penske have a choice between AJ and Ragan ?


#219 Dilla

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 21:22

From the sound of the Sirius article, it sounds like this is what Best Buy wants. Best Buy haven't had that taste of Victory Lane that Shell and Mars have had in NASCAR, so I think that they are desperate for 'W's at this point. Best Buy has bounced around NASCAR for how long? 10-15 years? And they have yet to have a driver in Victory Lane with their logo on the car (at least, I don't recall. . .).

So now Penske have a choice between AJ and Ragan ?

Assuming that he is officially released like Ragan was, I suppose so.

I'm kinda hoping that a random sponsor (Air Force, Red Bull,any-freakin'-body) comes out and says 'We'll sponsor AJ!' and RPM can bring back the #28, but that's in my daydreams. :lol:

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#220 piercey

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 21:45

Well, if all else fails badly, at least AJ is part-owner in an IndyCar team now.

#221 Dilla

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 22:16

Tom Jensen has tweeted (?) AJA has lost his 43 ride.

Jensen has backtracked a bit on his Speed.com article. Says that RPM is trying to find a way to fund a 3rd car since they really do think very highly of Allmendinger and so does the bigwigs at Ford Motor Company.

http://nascar.speedt...-busch-in-no-43

It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.

Edit: Also, Scott Speed finds a non-S&P ride, but it's part-time for 15 races.

http://www.nascar.co...cing/index.html

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#222 Watkins74

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 22:50

Just my opinion but that is wishful thinking on RPM's part for a 3rd car. They are struggling to fund the #43 and now the money is going to flow in for a 3rd team? I don't think so.

I have always wanted to buy a Ferrari Dino but right now I lack funding. :smoking:

Edited by Watkins74, 14 December 2011 - 11:21.


#223 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 23:03

To add some more sting for AJ:

Wow what a jerk move by Kubu.

#224 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 23:16

Heh find the Watkins thread, I think we were all expecting it to happen at the time.

#225 senna da silva

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 23:44

It'd be nice to see a good driver in the 43 again.

#226 Myrvold

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 01:08

Jensen has backtracked a bit on his Speed.com article. Says that RPM is trying to find a way to fund a 3rd car since they really do think very highly of Allmendinger and so does the bigwigs at Ford Motor Company.

http://nascar.speedt...-busch-in-no-43

It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.

Edit: Also, Scott Speed finds a non-S&P ride, but it's part-time for 15 races.

http://www.nascar.co...cing/index.html


Crikey, I don't wan't AJ out, and surely not to make room for Kurt Busch.

And I didn't know that Speed joined F1 in 2001! :p

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 04:36

Just my opinion but that is wishful thinking on RPM's part for a 3rd car. They are struggling to fund the #43 and now the money is going to flow in for a 3rd team? I don't think so.

I have always to buy a Ferrari Dino but right now I lack funding. :smoking:

I feel your pain, I'm having a bit of an issue now finding funding for a DCB 22, dammit...

#228 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 12:59

Dude I watched drag boats on Speed the other day, from Firebird in Arizona no less.

*wtf*

253mph in a boat? :eek:

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 16:47

Dude I watched drag boats on Speed the other day, from Firebird in Arizona no less.

*wtf*

253mph in a boat? :eek:

Probably Nitro.
The fastest pass we got down when I was working in Alcohol was 234.
That was with a single prop, the new boats are running twins to counteract the torque.
We used to have to load the left sponson with the 24v onboard batteries PLUS 80 lbs of lead shot to get it to launch straight running a single prop, even then our driver would end up at the end of the run with a ton of rudder in it. The trick was to get it down straight with no rudder. rudder = drag
And, yes, it is serious WTF craziness.


#230 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 16:54

My two favourite things are the launch, when the boats actually come completely out of the water sometimes, and in the top fuel pro whatevers that as they go down the run they make huuuuuuuuuge rooster tails that get flatter and flatter as the speed picks up.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 17:13

My two favourite things are the launch, when the boats actually come completely out of the water sometimes, and in the top fuel pro whatevers that as they go down the run they make huuuuuuuuuge rooster tails that get flatter and flatter as the speed picks up.

We called that taking a 'set', if it lands flat you are in for a good run, if it comes down one way or the other you better get some rudder in it quick.
Which is why they run twin props now, it launchs quicker and lands flatter.
Here's a pic of the boat the locals here are running, Problem Child, getting off the line. A few of my buds are working on this monster.
Nitro Twin Screw

#232 John B

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 20:22

When we first got ESPN and cable hydroplane racing was on a lot, I remember a big rivalry was the Miss Budweiser versus Atlas Van Lanes boats, and a lot of big wrecks.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 20:40

When we first got ESPN and cable hydroplane racing was on a lot, I remember a big rivalry was the Miss Budweiser versus Atlas Van Lanes boats, and a lot of big wrecks.

The late eighties were the golden years for the Unlimited hydros. They were setting lap records every year until the early nineties.

It is hard for me to believe it has been almost twenty years since I last saw one as it seems literally like just couple of years ago.
Madison, Indiana is the best place as you can ( or could) watch them go by at over two hundred MPH about + or - only a hundred feet away

Edited by Bob Riebe, 14 December 2011 - 20:41.


#234 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 21:23

I give up. I couldn't find a stealable pic of Roger McCluskey so I had to go modern

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 21:38

The late eighties were the golden years for the Unlimited hydros. They were setting lap records every year until the early nineties.

It is hard for me to believe it has been almost twenty years since I last saw one as it seems literally like just couple of years ago.
Madison, Indiana is the best place as you can ( or could) watch them go by at over two hundred MPH about + or - only a hundred feet away

Once they stopped running Alisons and Merlins, I kinda lost interest...
Tubines are neat, but being in the pits when they lit up those V12s was flat awesome.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:25

I was hoping for no. 74 Lipton or Fina car

#237 B Squared

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:31

Tony Stewart voted Driver of the Year, from the Indy Star:

http://www.indystar....l|text|Sports|s

#238 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:32

Argh for some reason Randy LaJoie's name did jump in my head but I couldn't understand why.

#239 Dilla

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 18:01

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 18:51

Dude I watched drag boats on Speed the other day, from Firebird in Arizona no less.

*wtf*

253mph in a boat? :eek:

I don't know which post Ross is replying to -or what drag boats are doing in a NASCAR thread- but the 253 mph bit caught my attention and I youtubed for drag boats and holy god.

Words cannot describe the awesomeness.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 21:48

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I can't see that.. pbase links don't always work it seems.. I think it was this pic ?
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#242 Dilla

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 22:07

Yes, yes it was.

#243 Dilla

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 00:23

From the sound of the Sirius article, it sounds like this is what Best Buy wants. Best Buy haven't had that taste of Victory Lane that Shell and Mars have had in NASCAR, so I think that they are desperate for 'W's at this point. Best Buy has bounced around NASCAR for how long? 10-15 years? And they have yet to have a driver in Victory Lane with their logo on the car (at least, I don't recall. . .).

Looks like Best Buy is just going to cut out the middle man.

Best Buy to sponsor Kenseth?: Roush Fenway Racing and #17-Matt Kenseth appear to be well on their way to securing the Best Buy sponsorship for 2012, according to sources familiar with the situation. The Roush organization has pledged to run Kenseth, the 2003 Cup champion, without sponsorship but has been working hard to find funding for the driver coming off a three-win season where he placed fourth in the Cup standings. Kenseth's primary sponsor Crown Royal opted not to sponsor a race team in 2012. Best Buy's sponsorship of #43-AJ Allmendinger at Richard Petty Motorsports was for 24 races in 2011. RPM has not announced any sponsorship for the #43 car for next season. An RPM spokesman said the team would have no comment on its sponsorship search.(SceneDaily)(12-15-2011)

Puts RPM in a bad spot if it goes down.

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#244 Wuzak

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 00:58

So what's all this mean for Marcos?

I get the impression that Marcos and AJ get along well, so if KuBu took over from AJ it may not be such a nice place to work for Marcos anymore.

And if they are struggling to find the money for the 43 car will that effect the 9's budget?

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 02:59

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Yes, but two top 5's at Riverside and once was 4th fastest qualifier at Riverside.

Heck of a short track racer too. I saw him racing an AMC Hornet (!).

Usually, he was sponsored by Old Milwaukee.

Thanks for posting the photo :up:

#246 pingu666

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 13:32

christ those top class boats just explode off the line


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Posted 16 December 2011 - 15:19

Zipadelli to be competition director at Stewart-Haas.

http://nascar.speedt...rt-haas-racing/

Anyone have a Benny Parsons photo?

#248 Dilla

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 16:56

Anyone have a Benny Parsons photo?

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#249 Dilla

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 18:16

Nothing confirmed, but there are rumors circulating that Ricky Carmichael will run full-time Nationwide with KBM (Mike Beam as crew chief).

Edited by Dilla, 16 December 2011 - 18:17.


#250 Crafty

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 21:57

Saw on jayski that that Greg Zipadelli has been made Competition Director at Stewart-Haas.
Jason Ratcliff has replaced him as crew chief of the #20, he's stepped up from the nationwide operation.

NASCAR have also released new regs to stop the two car drafting at Daytona:

Smaller radiator - Maximum of 2 gallon capacity
Smaller overflow tank - Maximum capacity of ½ gallon
Radiator inlet is moved up closer into the front center bumper area
Rate reduction in the springs - softer springs
Smaller rear spoiler
Base line restrictor plate of 29/32 inch (1/64 inch larger than plate size for the 2011 Daytona 500)(NASCAR)
AND NASCAR has issued a new technical bulletin to its Sprint Cup teams, detailing major changes to cooling systems for 2012 Speedweeks at Daytona International Speedway in an effort to better regulate tandem drafting. According to Chris Paulsen, president and owner of C&R Racing Inc. -- which manufactures nearly all of the radiators used in NASCAR's premier series -- the sanctioning body will be significantly reducing the size of the radiators and changing the location of the grille openings before the cars return for Daytona testing in January. "[Sprint Cup Series director] John Darby is implementing a two-gallon maximum radiator size," Paulsen said. "So in other words, the big, huge five-gallon radiators everybody's running will be down to two. And that accumulator can was a one-gallon max volume. It's going down to a half-gallon-sized can." The idea is to make the cooling systems less efficient, Paulsen said, forcing the cars to run in open air to keep water temperatures down. "We'll probably see some result from that, but it's not going to be huge, mainly because they've got these things figured out now," Paulsen said. "But it's still going to have an effect. The bigger effect is going to be moving the grille opening up to the bumper fascia area. Because now when they're tucked up behind another car, they're really going to kill all the air. So I think they're on the right track with that. They'll get the result that way."


What do we think ? 5 down to two gallons seems pretty harsh. I wonder if they will still try and draft for a few laps and then break off to cool ? if so it seems that the race still might be a bit of a lottery in the closing laps ?