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#601 Tony Lethbridge

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:34

I would just like to say thank you to everyone for posting the fabulous photos and and interesting snippets of information. I was there on Friday and enjoyed a wonderful day watching the action at Madgwick and sitting right under the landing flight path. Sadly I didn't get to the paddock as there was so much happening on track and in the air that I just didn't want to miss anything. So many highlights but especially the Silver Arrows ( I shall never forget the smell!) and the Dan Gurney Tribute, and yes Malcolm, all those Ferraris and ERAs. Reading your posts, grumbles and all, just adds to the enjoyment that a trip to Goodwood always brings. Thank you all. And yes I enjoyed the TV programme, and can still look forward to reliving it all with the DVD.

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#602 Stephen W

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:58

Yes, it wasn't bad at all, but pretty much what we've come to expect, less 'fluff' and more about the cars and racing would have been good. It's a bit odd in some ways, they aren't aiming for a mass audience on ITV4, so I can't see why they think so much fluff is needed. In the absence of a dedicated TNF channel though, it's probably as good as we'll ever get. Given the millions who happily watch hours and hours of often tedious 'effwun' coverage, I'd have thought that a proper effort concentrating mainly on the racing would have got good viewing figures.


I doubt that ITV made the programme for the ITV4 audience. It looks like a sort of one hour package that will be offered 'world wide' and in an effort to be all things to all people they have to add in all the rubbish about the ball, what people wear etc. Still far too many oiks turning up wearing military uniforms with the notable exception of Johnson Beharry.



#603 john aston

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:18

Race coverage superb but dear God the rest drove me to distraction. Such as..Silver Arrows piece - Murray interview and period music utterly drowned out the sound of the cars; pedal car race had 4 times the coverage of GTOs and Cobra race; twenty somethings with their Gurney for President signs- how many had even heard of him ? Asinine Ms Stretton fluff - great if you like pantos recreating a past which never existed , but rubbish if you like racing.I'll stick with the Classic thanks.

#604 Mal9444

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:53

Apart from that intelligence-insulting opening sequence not as quite as bad as I predicted in #579 above but in terms of content exactly so (though no one said 'hard on the brakes' at all, and Simon said 'on the brakes' only once :wave: ) The introduction of a second commentator 'for technical reasons' was unnecessary given the (short) length of the racing sequences and the person chosen, Jonathan Leggat, is simply neither as good nor as well-informed as Simon Taylor. He was given the lead, presumably, so that Simon could add the 'technical' (i.e. 'he spun because he went onto the grass') input that the leader lacked. Jonathan Leggat is the guy sacked from BBC's F1 show to make way for what was presumably considered by the producers to be superior talent.
Having had exactly the same thing done to me by the BBC in another sphere some years ago I should be on his side, I suppose - but he did seem very much simply to verbalise the picture (for the benefit of blind viewers, one assumes) rather than add value to what the viewer can already see, which IMO is what a good television commentator should do.

In terms of balance the programme, ironically and irritatingly enough, probably got it spot on. One only has to try and walk around, especially on Sunday (not as bad this year as last, it seemed to me) to realise that the majority of those present have not come to watch the motor racing. I suspect, and DCN could confirm were it so, that the content balance of that programme is a fair representation of the economic balance the organisers now aim for in the weekend. You want to run the world's best historic motor racing extravaganza in a truly spectacular time-warp theatre, so you need the sideshows to fill the theatre, you need to fill the theatre to attract the commercial support and the corporate spenders, you need the commercial supporters and the corporate spenders to provide the wherewithall to put on the show in the first place - and of course, to make a little something off the top. The tv show is just selling the bigger show.

I wonder to whom I should direct my suggestion that, in addition to making the general-viewer programme, they get Motors tv to come along and shoot, or otherwise air the footage already shot, of the classic racing itself. Then they and we would have the best of both worlds. And we could watch the Revival on Motors tv over and over and over again.

Added as an edit: but Tony, I like ERAs

Edited by Mal9444, 28 September 2012 - 11:01.


#605 LotusElise

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 14:34

I caught the second half. They talked about Jeremy McWilliams' and Duncan Ricketts' great performance in the bike race, but showed almost none of it. The TT sequence was quite nice though.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 21:10

Is there a possebility to watch the ITV show about the Revival in the internet? In Germany is no coverage at all about the Revival on TV.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 10:35

I wonder to whom I should direct my suggestion that, in addition to making the general-viewer programme, they get Motors tv to come along and shoot, or otherwise air the footage already shot, of the classic racing itself. Then they and we would have the best of both worlds. And we could watch the Revival on Motors tv over and over and over again.


The Goodwood Revival DVD fulfills this role. And of course it allows you to skip the bits you don't want to watch. I miss the on-board footage they used to have though.

Edited by David Wright, 29 September 2012 - 10:37.


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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:07

Is there a possebility to watch the ITV show about the Revival in the internet? In Germany is no coverage at all about the Revival on TV.


In my experience TV transmissions on the net are usually blocked outside country of origin and it's not available for view on demand anyway, you might try watching the scheduling on BFBS ?



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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:09

I remember those Rod Leach ads.

Not sure of the number of the one I mentioned, but I did find a couple of photos from another event on flickr:

http://www.flickr.co...in/photostream/


I didn't catch that one during practice on Friday :-(

#610 Alan Cox

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:39

I caught the second half. They talked about Jeremy McWilliams' and Duncan Ricketts' great performance in the bike race, but showed almost none of it. The TT sequence was quite nice though.

Possibly Duncan Fitchett, Elise? ;)

#611 Mal9444

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 13:36

The Goodwood Revival DVD fulfills this role. And of course it allows you to skip the bits you don't want to watch. I miss the on-board footage they used to have though.

I hope you are correct. The last (or perhaps I should say 'most recent' - we shall see) Goodwood DVD I bought was simply the tv show re-hashed. Will this year's DVD have all the races?

#612 David Wright

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:37

I hope you are correct. The last (or perhaps I should say 'most recent' - we shall see) Goodwood DVD I bought was simply the tv show re-hashed. Will this year's DVD have all the races?


The DVDs are based on the TV show but much longer (last year's came on 2 DVDs with 192 minutes of coverage) and include all the races.

Edit: just checked last years DVDs

The main program lasts 45 minutes so presumably its the ITV program. It has 30 minutes of race coverage. In addition on the first DVD there are 9 minutes of the Ford Parade, 9 minutes of the Fangio tribute, 9 minutes of the Spitfire tribute and 30 minutes of bike racing. The second DVD has 90 minutes of the races not on the TV program and is just the racing.

Edited by David Wright, 29 September 2012 - 21:12.


#613 ChrisJson

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 21:11

In my experience TV transmissions on the net are usually blocked outside country of origin


You can use a VPN provider, WiTopia is a good one, to change the location of your computer.

Today I watched the Giro di Lombardia from RAI Sport 2 for example.

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#614 Mal9444

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 22:58

The DVDs are based on the TV show but much longer (last year's came on 2 DVDs with 192 minutes of coverage) and include all the races.

Edit: just checked last years DVDs

The main program lasts 45 minutes so presumably its the ITV program. It has 30 minutes of race coverage. In addition on the first DVD there are 9 minutes of the Ford Parade, 9 minutes of the Fangio tribute, 9 minutes of the Spitfire tribute and 30 minutes of bike racing. The second DVD has 90 minutes of the races not on the TV program and is just the racing.


Thanks. Your message forwarded to Santa...
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#615 Wirra

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:02

Just back in Oz after attending this marvellous event and whilst going through my snaps I noticed this one of the ever profession Mr Nye studying the bodylines and rear suspension on two special exhibits.

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Here is the view from Mr Nye's perspective.

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I observed how the chap running the show told his drivers to avoid such issue and concentrate on the tacho needle and the track.

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#616 Doug Nye

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:54

Thank you so much Wirra for bringing this natural break to everybody's attention. I could only see out of one eye at the time...I did think that the marshals were looking rather more spritely this year... :blush:

DCN

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#617 nicanary

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:00

I doubt that ITV made the programme for the ITV4 audience. It looks like a sort of one hour package that will be offered 'world wide' and in an effort to be all things to all people they have to add in all the rubbish about the ball, what people wear etc. Still far too many oiks turning up wearing military uniforms with the notable exception of Johnson Beharry.


Anyone ever thought of attending dressed as the late Roberta Cowell? Go on, you know you want to.


#618 Mistron

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:04

Someone did this year..... I saw them (note the PC use of non gender specifc term!) whilst walking down the banking between the grandstands at Lavant and the scrammble track.

I was not convinced, but funilly enough, my thoughts turrened to Ms Cowell!

each to their own.

Edited by Mistron, 30 September 2012 - 11:05.


#619 nicanary

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:29

Someone did this year..... I saw them (note the PC use of non gender specifc term!) whilst walking down the banking between the grandstands at Lavant and the scrammble track.

I was not convinced, but funilly enough, my thoughts turrened to Ms Cowell!

each to their own.


They never are convincing, especially if they've got a beard.


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#620 arttidesco

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:36

Anyone ever thought of attending dressed as the late Roberta Cowell? Go on, you know you want to.


Cross dressing at Goodwood is nothing to be embarrassed about as I found out last year.

#621 Mistron

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:38

They never are convincing, especially if they've got a beard.


Now I think I saw HER at the Le Mans fairground in 1999! :rotfl:




#622 nicanary

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 13:35

Cross dressing at Goodwood is nothing to be embarrassed about as I found out last year.


Hmm.. some people have got some b***s. :rotfl:


#623 Mal9444

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 18:03

This is the first Goodwood Revival topic that I've had to Google to find out what you're talking about. I had a very respectable paper round...

#624 P0wderf1nger

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 21:46

In the absence of a dedicated TNF channel...

Scene: TV exec’s room. The exec is interrogating a colleague.

Exec: So let me see if I’ve got this right, Brown. The demographic is 100% male and over 50.

Brown: That’s right, Sir.

Exec: And they’ll watch this TNF Channel on their computers, on their own.

Brown: Yes, Sir.

Exec: And those road car and watch ads we’d hope to broadcast. You’re telling me they don’t want them?

Brown: They don’t want commercial breaks at all, Sir.

Exec: But that Louisa Skipper babe we’d lined up. Are you sure they don’t want her?

Brown: Quite sure, Sir.

Exec: Yet that Nye guy. They want him to present everything? Even the weather report?

Brown: Especially the weather report, Sir.

Exec: Brown.

Brown: Yes, Sir?

Exec: You’re fired.


#625 Doug Nye

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 22:21

Goodness! That's uncanny. You bugged the office...?

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#626 D-Type

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 22:43

Who said we want DCN to present the weather report! Louisa can do that.

(Well we've got to give him the chance of a comfort break.)

#627 P0wderf1nger

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 22:52

Goodness! That's uncanny. You bugged the office...?

DCN

I'm Brown!

#628 Wirra

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 03:07

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my Competitor of the Weekend - twice World Superbike Champion Troy Corser on a pre-war BMW; on a bike with no suspension worth a mention he was bucking and weaving and brushing the track with the cylinder head every lap, riding as hard as if he was trying to clinch the WC.
...

Paul M


I loved how he tucked his shoulder in at the chicane.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 16:15

From the Veloce books link and Mercedes TV to whom copyright etc

Roger Lund

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:15

Anyone who has enjoyed the aviation side of the Revival will be sad to learn that long time commentator Peter Eager died a few days ago. He made a valiant effort to commentate this year, determined to have one last go. We will remember his style and knowledge.
Chris

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:26

Anyone who has enjoyed the aviation side of the Revival will be sad to learn that long time commentator Peter Eager died a few days ago. He made a valiant effort to commentate this year, determined to have one last go. We will remember his style and knowledge.
Chris


Valiant fighter to the end. RIP Mr Eager

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:28

I'm very sorry to hear that; RIP Peter.

:cry:


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#633 Doug Nye

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:57

Chris - this is terribly sad news. So close to the end, what a very, very brave effort poor Peter made...

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#634 john aston

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 15:57

From the Veloce books link and Mercedes TV to whom copyright etc

Roger Lund


Long on style, short on substance. Talking heads galore and the one thing I wanted to hear- call me old fashioned but it's the cars not the panto- was the cars themselves.Inaudible thanks to voice over and mood music. And obviously some footage of His Lordship flogging books on how to dress at Goodwood was a vital piece of information....

#635 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 16:49

Re post 446.... Believe it or not, that same Rupert Keegan imposter was driving a Triumph TR.3 in the Mtahleb hill climb in Malta this very day.

I made sure I spoke to him afterwards and I have to say, his knowledge of the REAL Rupert Keegan is remarkably good.  ;)

#636 kayemod

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 16:59

Re post 446.... Believe it or not, that same Rupert Keegan imposter was driving a Triumph TR.3 in the Mtahleb hill climb in Malta this very day.

I made sure I spoke to him afterwards and I have to say, his knowledge of the REAL Rupert Keegan is remarkably good.  ;)


There's probably a post on a forum somewhere from a person with the soubriquet 'keegs', telling how he met a man in Malta who looked remarkably like one B Boor, though of course he wasn't fooled for a moment.


#637 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 17:07

:lol:

#638 Giraffe

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 17:24

Re post 446.... Believe it or not, that same Rupert Keegan imposter was driving a Triumph TR.3 in the Mtahleb hill climb in Malta this very day.

I made sure I spoke to him afterwards and I have to say, his knowledge of the REAL Rupert Keegan is remarkably good.  ;)


Co-incidentally, I had a missed call from Malta on my mobile last evening at around 5pm, was it you or Rupert, Barry?!?!
I ask that because said Mr.K keeps "poking" me on Facebook, (a feature I've never understood?!?!) If you see him, tell him I'm having dinner with an old friend of his, Jo Gilbert (Sinden) in Southport tomorrow evening. :wave:

#639 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 19:22

Proof, if proof were needed.

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Sorry to have dragged the thread O.T.

Edited by Barry Boor, 11 October 2012 - 19:23.


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#640 Wirra

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:22

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#641 Macca

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:36

???

Back on topic, sort of - at my dear stepmother's funeral a couple of days ago I learned that one of her grandsons works for the team that ran the BMW 700 in the St. Marys Trophy.

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#642 Wirra

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 23:22

At the Revival this year 'The Telegraph' had stalls selling shoulder bags with a copy of the newspaper and a few bit and pieces including a double DVD of the 2011 Revival - cheap as chips at 1.50 GBPs. I have really enjoyed watching the 4 hours of the DVD and was planning to get my wife a copy of the 2012 DVD for Christmas but I can't seem to find where it is available. Are they sold by Goodwood or The Telegraph? Thanks.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:04

I had a quick look on intelnet 'Goodwood Revival DVD 2012' just now seems Amazon is the cheapest deal. Not sure if that will help you down under.

It would appear neither the Telegruff or Goodwood are distributing the DVD direct :confused:

#644 ktrhe

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:38

I'm pretty sure that's Rob Hall, without his usual helmet, in the W154, he tested the car at Donington some weeks ago.

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Interesting on Friday I have some else I do not recognise in the A-Type :confused:

Any help will be much appreciated.


I have talk to a Friend at the Essen Motorshow last week. And he is pretty sure that HARALD DEMUTH was driving the Auto Union in Goodwood on Friday.
Harald Demuth was German Rallye Champion in 1982 & 1984.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 15:10

I have talk to a Friend at the Essen Motorshow last week. And he is pretty sure that HARALD DEMUTH was driving the Auto Union in Goodwood on Friday.
Harald Demuth was German Rallye Champion in 1982 & 1984.



Danke schoen ktrhe :up:


#646 Mike Summers

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 00:35

Group, do I read the Goodwood web page correctly, the 2013 event, St. Marys Trophy, will be 1950-1959 Saloon cars. I was hoping to see a gaggle of Lotus Cortinas on my first visit.

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#647 D-Type

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 00:57

Don't worry - there will be a few in the members' car park or the 'period' car park

#648 Mike Summers

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:21

Sorry, I meant Lotus Cortinas on track.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:38

Sorry, I meant Lotus Cortinas on track.

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I think you will find the details are for this year and that next year will be 60's saloons...

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 06:47

So the DVD is superb!

The organisation does do the job very well

Especially the Pre War Sports Cars....