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#151 Yhamm

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 14:45

Anyone seen WTCC yesterday? Muller is such an idiot. He could have overtaken without hitting Engstler. Deserved drive trough in my book.

Deserved the DT yes, but calling him an idiot is a bit too much don't you think?
Now, I'm not sure he really tried to overtake the BMW at this time, or more like he tried to go in the small place then thought it wasn't the right time but was too late to avoid touching him
Anyway, it cost him much and it will make the end of season more exciting :)

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#152 BRG

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 15:26

Deserved the DT yes, but calling him an idiot is a bit too much don't you think?

It's not the first time he has done exactly this manoeuvre this season, so, yes, he is an idiot if he thought he could get away with it. From the in-car, it looked pretty deliberate.

Sonoma is a great track for this sort of car, but what a pity that the audience seemed to barely reach triple figures. No point taking these championships all the way to the USA if they are just not interested.

#153 Yhamm

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 15:32

so, yes, he is an idiot if he thought he could get away with it. From the in-car, it looked pretty deliberate.

who said he would get away? He didn't afaik
wasn't the first time, but it wasn't his first DT too I think
and mistakes happens

I hope they will come back here, but it might be better with the Nascar layout, or at least drop the chicane, always thought it was useless and it removes overtaking possibility at the hairpin

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 16:01

who said he would get away? He didn't afaik

Exactly. He got clobbered with a DT for doing the same thing at the Slovakia Ring, yet he did it again. So either he doesn't learn or he thinks he is above the rules. Either way, idiot.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 16:07

Exactly. He got clobbered with a DT for doing the same thing at the Slovakia Ring, yet he did it again. So either he doesn't learn or he thinks he is above the rules. Either way, idiot.

Or maybe it was just a misjudgement or a small mistake, that doesn't make him an idtiot

#156 BRG

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 16:44

Or maybe it was just a misjudgement or a small mistake, that doesn't make him an idtiot

Well, the punt in Slovakia was blatantly deliberate. He came from way back and simply didn't brake and used Michaelsz's BMW to slow down. At Sonoma, it was a little more subtle, but the in-car showed that he stuck his nose inside Engstler, who was on the normal racing line. Muller wasn't. Perhaps he hoped that the BMW would run wide and let him through, but it looked pretty much like a good old Matt Neal style inside punt. I used to respect Muller but since he has been top dog at Chevrolet, he seems to think he is entitled to win every race and that others are just obstacles to be punted out of the way. Now he has compromised his championship bid, so I say again, idiot.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 17:30

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 18:20

Sonoma is a great track for this sort of car, but what a pity that the audience seemed to barely reach triple figures. No point taking these championships all the way to the USA if they are just not interested.


Yeah I spent half the race thinking "Wow! These cars look soooo good around this track." Which isn't my usual reaction to WTCC cars :p That looked so much fun (if bloody difficult). And the elevation changes...Strange it produces such crap Indycar racing.

Surprised anyone in the US has even heard of the WTCC though, so a weak crowd was unsurprising.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 22:25

Yeah I spent half the race thinking "Wow! These cars look soooo good around this track." Which isn't my usual reaction to WTCC cars :p That looked so much fun (if bloody difficult). And the elevation changes...Strange it produces such crap Indycar racing.


Sonoma is a great track for this sort of car, but what a pity that the audience seemed to barely reach triple figures. No point taking these championships all the way to the USA if they are just not interested.


The race wasn't even broadcast in the USA, let alone advertised. It didn't have a chance.

In fact, the only reason I know of WTCC is because of RACE 07.

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#160 Buxbaum

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:41

And another great moment by Muller. Hits Menu and gets hit by other cars and out in the first round.

The interview before the 2nd race was gold. :rotfl:

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:17

superb battles there, great track for wttcc cars.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:23

superb battles there, great track for wttcc cars.

Definitely.

Muller is getting reckless. And Huff is laughing is ass off. :clap:

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:39

Definitely.

Muller is getting reckless. And Huff is laughing is ass off. :clap:


Now it's becoming to be ridiculous. Stewards don't even try and hide how they favor Muller. First they put his mistake on the account of Michelisz and then turn blind when Yvan puts in an errant manoeuvre like a 8-year-old karter.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:47

Now it's becoming to be ridiculous. Stewards don't even try and hide how they favor Muller. First they put his mistake on the account of Michelisz and then turn blind when Yvan puts in an errant manoeuvre like a 8-year-old karter.


I don't know if it is always the same stewards but Muller got a deserved drive through when he hit Engstler earlier this year.

The press conference was gold as well. Huff happy as a little child on christmas day and Muller and Menu didn't say much.

Menu was pissed and Muller was mad at the reporter for the previous interview attempt.



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Posted 04 November 2012 - 13:16

The interviews were comedy gold, especially Muller pre-race and especially if you 're rooting for Huff.





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Posted 04 November 2012 - 16:42

The interviews were comedy gold, especially Muller pre-race and especially if you 're rooting for Huff.


Eventually Muller got what he deserved, and about two dozen of others as well: http://www.autosport...t.php/id/104017
Still can't understand what he was thinking

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 16:53

Looks like Chevy pulled out at just the right time with Muller becoming a liability in the last part of the season and drivers falling out with each other. Bravo to Huff, the most deserving of the three this season despite trying to throw it away in race one. :lol:

Also, how hopeless was Carlton Kirby? Blatantly making stuff up all day long.

Edited by Disgrace, 18 November 2012 - 17:01.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:16

Alan Menu was in Budapest in the Zengő Team's Christmas party:

http://turaauto.hu/?p=4266