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#51 elansprint72

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 23:07

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#52 pressman

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:16

Great photos gents , :up:
Cheers
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#53 elansprint72

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 13:21

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Reminds me of Jim and Graham.


Him no fuel...

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#54 elansprint72

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 13:52

Daren Mk 2. I can't remember having seen one of these very pretty cars before, although it's a shame about the yellow pipes.

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#55 Alan Cox

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 15:23

Daren Mk 2. I can't remember having seen one of these very pretty cars before, although it's a shame about the yellow pipes.

You probably saw one in the early '70s at Oulton, Pete. I believe this Georg Kjällgren-owned example is the car campaigned in Britain and Europe by Jeremy and Peter Richardson.

#56 Morris S

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 22:45

Very quiet on the Donington front here so here's an Imp's eye view of the under 1600cc saloon race :

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

#57 gkennedy

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 06:30

Excellent! My palms are sweaty from backseat driving. Maybe because I've never driven an Imp before.

I see Minis still get very taily on a lifted throttle.

#58 bill p

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:04

Very quiet on the Donington front here so here's an Imp's eye view of the under 1600cc saloon race :

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


That was fun!!


#59 Alan Cox

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:07

Weekend results here:
Masters Oulton Park http://www.tsl-timin...;eventid=121151
HSCC Donington Park http://www.hscc.org....17-18.03.12.pdf

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#60 elansprint72

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:42

That was fun!!

That red and white Imp was very wide for its size.  ;)

#61 David McKinney

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:59

I thought that too - and did I catch a brake-test at one point?

#62 elansprint72

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 14:13

I thought that too - and did I catch a brake-test at one point?

That was my impression. ):

#63 Edington Mains

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 22:41

Tuna with Branston?

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Has Arron just farted?
No, he's in Oz. Must be Dellboy up at the Old Hall box.

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Good Grief!.. i cant co anywhere and i get snapped!

Well I had a death burger from the Avenue Caravan which may have been some cause of concern, although I'm indebted to Edington Mains for giving me a lift at the end of the lunch break to get the spare camera battery I'd left in my car.


No worries Alan.. im too bone idle to wander the track so a cars the way!

Was going to post some of my pictures, but seeing as i was stood by you two all day we have some great duplicates
Then i thought "what the heck!"

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#64 Thundersport

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 21:11

I see that HFO is on the British GP support race line up boasting that it is the only UK round this year. I thought it was on the Superprix bill at Brands unless it has changed?

#65 Thundersport

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 21:11

I see that HFO is on the British GP support race line up boasting that it is the only UK round this year. I thought it was on the Superprix bill at Brands unless it has changed?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 22:14

It certainly is a strange one with the HFO. Their list of dates in Autosport last week shows support at the GP and no appearance at the Brands Superprix. MSV already had it in all their adverts/brochures that HFO were attending the Superprix. Last year it was a let down as only 9 cars took to the grid, whilst the Derek Bell Trophy race threw 30 odd cars up for their rumbling roadshow. The Superprix locks horns with The Goodwood FOS and last year Classic Team Lotus went to Goodwood with Dan Collins.
There`s a lot for the guys to do with a bumper turnout expected for the Silverstone Classic aswell. As far as I can work it out, the HFO is slowly but surely fading whereas the Masters F1 scene is growing (same cars & drivers in both most of the time!) but money must call the shots as far as GP support goes. They`re saying 2 hours on track action at the GP for HFO which breaks down as half hour practice, 20 minutes qualifying and a 30minute/20 lap race.....hmmm?!!
Long gone are the days of The Thoroughbred Grand Prix Championship, when they used to race up to 10 times a year with double headers some weeks (2 races in a weekend) and up to 50 different drivers over a season.
Are we heading towards a calendar made up of Historic Festivals like Donington/Silverstone/Brands/Portimao and the Masters Series doing a full year of various categories (at many great circuits)?....I think we are!!

#67 Thundersport

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 23:17

HFO taken off the Superprix line up on the website.........Do we assume HFO got a better offer? That will seriously piss JP off if so and so it should if they have changed the calender after MSV have announced their's.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 00:02

HFO being billed as the only `other` FIA sanctioned F1 championship :confused: . Shame really that they should let MSV down and then turn up at the GP :evil: . The only thing I hope for is they have a decent turnout - or people could be put off by a low grid number :down: . The Silverstone Classic is probabaly looking towards 40 cars this year for the F1 race and thats a real result :smoking: ....and value for money for the punters :love: . The Historic scene really does pack the punch when it comes to spending the hard earned cash :up: ! Still, MSV will have the F5000 Derek Bell and hopefully the Gp C races to cover the Superprix (I haven`t checked up recently!) :rolleyes: .
IMHO, HFO should have booked Donington for a vacant weekend after the Silverstone Classic :well: , as the Masters are off to Zaandvoort early September and are having the Finals weekend at Donny mid October :cool: . When will they start looking eslewhere for their cars to go. Time was about 15-20 years ago the Historic F1 cars raced at Thruxton, Oulton, Brands, Donington and Sliverstone travelling to the main European venues that hadn`t got a GP. Imola, Zolder, Paul Ricard, Zaandvoort all got races back then....now it seems they only get a race when there is no other big events on :( .
Maybe Jonathan Palmer should set up an F1 series similar to the old Aurora F1 Championship :drunk: and use his circuits :love: ....oh deary me :rolleyes: .....I might have started something here :rotfl: ...whoops! :wave:

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 00:10

Maybe Jonathan Palmer should set up an F1 series similar to the old Aurora F1 Championship :drunk: and use his circuits :love: ....oh deary me :rolleyes: .....I might have started something here :rotfl: ...whoops! :wave:


:up: :cool:


#70 Phil Rainford

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:28

Some FF1600 cars of a certain vintage at the BRSCC Meeting at Oulton yesterday...

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Van Diemen RF80

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Van Diemen RF86

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Crossle 25F

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M.R.E. FF

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Reynard FF84


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#71 Phil Rainford

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:39

Oops and a Royale RP33

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#72 MODE

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:57

A few pics from Dijon, first round of 2012 french historic series with F3 classic (29 cars entered), FRenault, FFord and several sedans. An interesting demonstration called "Constructeurs sans patente", which you could translate in "unknown french constructors".


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MAMBO :

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RETAILLEAU BODIN :

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LAMOUREUX FRenault :

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and the usual séries, Leone who won in F3 :

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S.Garzi on a MARCH 773

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M.Plaisant on a CROSSLE 32F

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First corner in the morning :

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#73 Alan Cox

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:42

A few pics from Dijon, first round of 2012 french historic series with F3 classic (29 cars entered), FRenault, FFord and several sedans. An interesting demonstration called "Constructeurs sans patente", which you could translate in "unknown french constructors".

Nice idea - and nice photos, too.

#74 Pete Stowe

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 14:23

A few photos from a rather damp HRDC Historica meeting at Castle Combe yesterday:
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 23:18

Mallala easter Historics - Stanguellini FJ
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Rob Butcher's Lotus18 replica ... finished 10.30pm the previous night.
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Prad Holden
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#76 Simon Arron

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:55

A few more from Monday at Castle Combe (uploaded, bizarrely, from a Shanghai-bound Emirates A380 - don't know if that's a first for TNF, but it's certainly a first for me - I don't recall wifi ever being available on Boeing 727s or Douglas DC-3s)...
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Michael Peet leads a gaggle during qualifying for the Pre '60 touring car race. (I believe the ice cream van spun off a couple laps earlier.)

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The Neil Merry-Terry van der Zee Sunbeam Tiger heads Paul Chase-Gardener's Shelby Mustang on the approach to Quarry (a caption that might once have applied to Longridge, before they turned it into a caravan park).

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Arthur Smith-Fitchett's ex-Rodriguez Rapier and, conceivably, the inspiration for TWR's many Rover SD1s (driven here by Charles and Victoria Beever, rather than Jeff Allam, Peter Lovett or Steve Soper).

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Shine on you, erm, glorified VW Beetle: the Anthony Childs/Christopher Overton Porsche 356A heads Ian Cox's Marcos GT.

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Geoff Turral-Simon Diffey in blue, Louise Kennedy in red. Exhaust-blown diffusers live on, perhaps.

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Marc Campfield would make race meetings worth attending if he were the only driver entered.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:48

An apt, reversed, number plate on the SLR
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#78 Alan Cox

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 16:18

Rob Butcher's Lotus18 replica ...

Gosh - are there many of those?

#79 Phil Rainford

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 18:10

A few more from Monday at Castle Combe (uploaded, bizarrely, from a Shanghai-bound Emirates A380 - don't know if that's a first for TNF, but it's certainly a first for me - I don't recall wifi ever being available on Boeing 727s or Douglas DC-3s)...

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Marc Campfield would make race meetings worth attending if he were the only driver entered.


Count me in :)


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#80 Phil Rainford

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 18:43

:) :)

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#81 elansprint72

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 20:45

A few more from Monday at Castle Combe (uploaded, bizarrely, from a Shanghai-bound Emirates A380 - don't know if that's a first for TNF, but it's certainly a first for me - I don't recall wifi ever being available on Boeing 727s or Douglas DC-3s)...

......


You never did sign the NUJ's clause 6, did you? :smoking:



#82 Phil Rainford

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 20:14

Historic Car from the Harewood Hillclimb today.....


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Ex Vittorio Brambilla Brabham BT30 now driven by Jolyon Harrison



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#83 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:39

An excellent meeting yesterday. Lovely to see the T59 Bugatti out in the superb Lindsey/Rothschild Trophy which had a fine entry as did the 1950's Sports Car Race which included a delightful little BALINO MM. A really enjoyable meeting, even the April showers kept away for most of the time. Were any other TNF'ers there?. :cool:

#84 Alan Cox

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:05

There certainly were, Eric. David McKinney, Roger Clark, Ted Walker and me to name but four.

PS Perhaps this should be merged with the Historic Racing 2012 thread http://forums.autosp...p;#entry5664017

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 20:48

There certainly were, Eric. David McKinney, Roger Clark, Ted Walker and me to name but four.


Me too - sorry I missed you all.

I quite liked this little runabout:

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And I'm a real sucker for a well-patinated Alfa:

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Especially when it also goes well:

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Don't recall seeing an Elva Mk IV for some time:

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And the Dick Jacobs MG Special was also getting an airing:

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All in all a very good day, though must confess I left just as the hail was starting - no dedication!


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:17

No pictures but can report on a wonderful weekend of HSCC racing at Cadwell. Only partially interrupted by hail and rain- but sun too.Sublime racing-watching at the Mountain during the final saloon race was a joy; not often you look round and notice that evrey spectator is beaming from ear to ear. Impossibly ambitious overtaking manouevres, Imps dicing with Falcon, sideways Cortinas and tyre shredding Mustangs. I heard there was some race in a repressive Middle Eastern state at the weekend but managed to avoid it...

#87 Andrew Fellowes

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:18

Ex Vittorio Brambilla Brabham BT30 now driven by Jolyon Harrison

BT35 chassis with BT30 chassis plate, unknown how this happened.

#88 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:47

Really nice pictures from a really nice days racing. I was just a little surprised that unlike the Goodwood 'do's' there was no mention of this VSCC meeting before or after the event. Well done, and the usual thanks to all concerned. :cool:

#89 Gregor Marshall

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:16

There certainly were, Eric. David McKinney, Roger Clark, Ted Walker and me to name but four.


Me too - I was there to take my Step-father to see Ian Andrews lovely ex-team Bentley and also to lay some flowers on the outside of Luffield for my late father; it was seven years to the day that he passed away there :cry:

I took quite a few photos that I will post later and also I agree on seeing Hubert Fabri's Bugatti, stunning car that is well looked after by Tim Dutton. Also, it was great to see Ivan Dutton out and competing in his lovely little Lotus XI after his battles with illness last year.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:36

I was there too:). Fell in love with the runaround that Odseybod showed as his first picture.

Did anybody else see what happened at Brooklands on the opening lap of the first race? A crash helmet suddenly went flying across the tarmac towards the BRDC. My instinct was to look for the rest of a driver or a car spinning madly but I didn't see anything. I have no idea if the helmet flew off the head of a driver or whether it came out of a footwell (if that makes any sense).

I do have a question about one of the cars that was racing but I'll need to wait until I get home to post the picture.

#91 Odseybod

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 13:12

I was there too:). Fell in love with the runaround that Odseybod showed as his first picture.

Did anybody else see what happened at Brooklands on the opening lap of the first race? A crash helmet suddenly went flying across the tarmac towards the BRDC. My instinct was to look for the rest of a driver or a car spinning madly but I didn't see anything. I have no idea if the helmet flew off the head of a driver or whether it came out of a footwell (if that makes any sense).

I do have a question about one of the cars that was racing but I'll need to wait until I get home to post the picture.


Sorry, Suzy, I was out in the boondocks at Becketts for most of the afternoon, so no idea about the mystery skid lid/bone dome. I imagine you would have said if it wasn't empty?!


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 21:23

I can reassure you that it was definitely an empty crash helmet! Picture I want to ask about will need to wait until tomorrow.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:57

As John said, there was a fantastic race meeting at Cadwell Park too at the weekend. We are spoilt for choice in the UK, VSCC at Silverstone and the HSCC at Cadwell. The meeting was run in challenging conditions, Sunday ( when I went ) was the much better day (despite a couple of heavy downpours with hail), which included some left over practice sessions and races from Saturday's shortened programme. Bravo to Grahame White and his HSCC team for successfully getting through the programme and giving all competitors their races before Sunday's curfew.

A great selection of Historic F3 cars, the 1-litre screamers, although sadly in these 'over the top' environmentally friendly 'noise reduction' times, you can't really hear them scream. But hey ho, great to see them...
My pictures here on facebook, no password required to view from this link. Still the best circuit in the UK. It has a bit of everything in its 2¼ miles.

http://www.facebook....mp;l=cad0dd4905

#94 Alan Cox

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:06

Great photos, Andy. Thanks for posting.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:23

Great photos, Andy. Thanks for posting.


Echo that -very atmospheric (and not just because of the moisture). Those 500s must have felt at home - I somehow always thought of Cadwell as a mainly bike venue, but may have to adjust my preconceptions.


#96 Lola5000

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:43

Hi guys what is the best web site to get race time/results for UK racing?

#97 Alan Cox

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:28

Hi guys what is the best web site to get race time/results for UK racing?

Three to be going on with:
Timing Solutions Ltd http://www.tsl-timin...lub&season=2012
MST http://www.mstworld....?...2&series=UK
theresults.co.uk for VSCC http://www.theresult...cc_results.html

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:59

Three to be going on with:
Timing Solutions Ltd http://www.tsl-timin...lub&season=2012
MST http://www.mstworld....?...2&series=UK
theresults.co.uk for VSCC http://www.theresult...cc_results.html

Thankyou Alan,have a friend doing about 6 meetings over the next month,just want to keep an eye on his races,regards Rob Bailey

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 14:07

This is the car that has intrigued me so much. A couple of pictures of it "undressed" in the paddock and a picture of it on the track. I inspected it and found that it seemed to be made out of wood, had a piece of oak :confused: as the front bumper and had a beer barrel under the bonnet and one at the rear ;) ! I'm guessing it came from the era of the early 1920s.

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#100 Alan Cox

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 14:37

This is the car that has intrigued me so much. A couple of pictures of it "undressed" in the paddock and a picture of it on the track. I inspected it and found that it seemed to be made out of wood, had a piece of oak :confused: as the front bumper and had a beer barrel under the bonnet and one at the rear ;) ! I'm guessing it came from the era of the early 1920s.

Sorry to disabuse you, Suzy, it's actually from the 1990s! A modern 'special' built in the spirit of inter-war specials by Richard Scaldwell using a 1919 GN chassis and a 1908 JAP V8 aero engine, and driven with equal spirit by its builder.