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#1 depailler on tyrrell p34

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:29

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#2 Andy865

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:35

Awesome opening post.

#3 depailler on tyrrell p34

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:37

Awesome opening post.

thanks...the roll bar and the airscoop looks like the old one of this year


#4 Starish

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:38

Nice, can't wait till they put up some on their original site with more shots. Seems like they kept the most of the air box design but made the opening smaller and a bit round.

#5 Andy865

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:40

IT LOOKS INNOVATIVE AND AGGRESSIVE WOO !!!

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#6 MrFondue

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:46

IT LOOKS INNOVATIVE AND AGGRESSIVE WOO !!!


Can't tell if trolling or just stupid...

#7 Starish

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:57

It looks very different from the c30 from what I can see( and thats not much).

#8 midgrid

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:08

It looks very different from the c30 from what I can see( and thats not much).


Indeed, the C30 was almost entirely white, but the new chassis appears to be black. Good to see a radical approach from Sauber. :up:


#9 Iseriouslyhadenough

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:15

Indeed, the C30 was almost entirely white, but the new chassis appears to be black. Good to see a radical approach from Sauber. :up:

I must assume you're either kidding or you've absolutely no clue you're talking about.

#10 nimbus111

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:16

Indeed, the C30 was almost entirely white, but the new chassis appears to be black. Good to see a radical approach from Sauber. :up:


it probably hasnt been painted yet, thats pure CF from the looks of it, its not liveried up yet.  ;)

#11 midgrid

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:19

it probably hasnt been painted yet, thats pure CF from the looks of it, its not liveried up yet. ;)


I know. :p


#12 Andy865

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:25

Massive sarcasm fails!

#13 nimbus111

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:27

I know. :p


ah well played sir. :rotfl:

#14 TeamSideways

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:36

people cant understand jokes

#15 Andy865

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:51

people cant understand jokes


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Good one!!

#16 macoran

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:02

people cant understand jokes

You mean ..................................... we are NOT being serious here ????

ohhhh !

#17 TeamSideways

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:12

You mean ..................................... we are NOT being serious here ????

ohhhh !

if u look on posts above you would see they are pretty goddamn serious

#18 nimbus111

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:15

people cant understand jokes


well i understand it now that i know it was a joke. :wave:

#19 dau

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 14:44

C31 has passed all crash tests, will be fired up next week. Also it will have a stepped nose like the Crocoham. Peter Sauber calls the new livery "different" as in darker compared to 2011, though it will still have white as a base colour with some red in it.

http://www.f1sa.com/...c...&Itemid=157
Original source: http://goo.gl/Adc3K

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#20 Don_Humpador

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 15:50

C31 has passed all crash tests, will be fired up next week. Also it will have a stepped nose like the Crocoham. Peter Sauber calls the new livery "different" as in darker compared to 2011, though it will still have white as a base colour with some red in it.

http://www.f1sa.com/...c...&Itemid=157
Original source: http://goo.gl/Adc3K

Maybe a darker shade of white? :lol:

The opening exchanges in this thread made me laugh too. Why is it always the Sauber thread that attracts bad jokes :yawnface:

#21 DracoN

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 16:54

HRT colors ?:D
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#22 mgs315

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 17:07

In all seriousness, someone should go unpainted carbon fibre. Looks awesome.

#23 pingu666

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:12

yeah :)
robby gordons hummer they put on the stickers for the text, paint the body, then pull the stickers off, so the black text is actully the carbon fibre :D

#24 Mastah

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 16:26

Fire-up done, bring on C31 launch :cool::

http://yfrog.com/z/nxz45msaj
http://yfrog.com/z/khcrzqcj

Edited by Mastah, 30 January 2012 - 17:00.


#25 windtravels

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 17:06

Fire-up done, bring on C31 launch :cool::

http://yfrog.com/z/nxz45msaj
http://yfrog.com/z/khcrzqcj


What is actually on show at a fire up? Can all those people see the new car or not?

#26 Mastah

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:25

It's done with something like this.

#27 windtravels

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:45

It's done with something like this.


^ aha thanks. kind of a stupid event...

except when there is an engine change i guess.

#28 Talisman

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:02

Fire-up done, bring on C31 launch :cool::


Good to see that the non-Sauber bits of the new Sauber work :) Hopefully the rest of the car will be an improvement from last year.

#29 TeamSideways

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:21

what are all these people doing there ? they are not sauber employees , are they ?

#30 Mastah

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:36

Nah, they are random people who knows how to fire up engine :drunk:.

#31 dau

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:42

^ aha thanks. kind of a stupid event...

except when there is an engine change i guess.

It's the first time the engine is started in the new chassis.


#32 Mauseri

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 13:25

A cannot wait the cover of the car is broken (as the driver slips it to wall).

#33 Aero1974

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 15:29

what are all these people doing there ? they are not sauber employees , are they ?


They are Sauber employees. Sauber considers the first engine fire-up to be a key milestone in the car build and the employees are inveted to watch.

#34 Mastah

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 19:06

Elsewhere there have been whispers that Sauber is short on its 2012 budget and is hoping that its Mexican backers – basically the Slim Family – will be able to come up with more cash for the future.

http://joesaward.wor...m-the-f1-world/



#35 Bunchies

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 19:10

Eagerly awaiting unveiling of the C31.

#36 Mastah

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 15:55

New technical partner, NetApp:

http://www.sauberf1t..._help_of_NetApp

#37 Bunchies

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 16:31

After seeing the new Mclaren, I'm hopeful that Sauber can think of an efficient aero solution that isn't ugly.

#38 DracoN

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 16:50

Nah, its crock style :p

#39 sheogorath

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 21:36

Considering the C30 had one of the highest noses in the grid, I wonder what they came up with to comply with the 2012 rules.

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#40 Collective

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 00:12

Elsewhere there have been whispers that Sauber is short on its 2012 budget and is hoping that its Mexican backers – basically the Slim Family – will be able to come up with more cash for the future.

http://joesaward.wor...m-the-f1-world/


I don't see it happening. The Slim Family is extremely cheap. If they paid X for exposure, they won't pay more... only way I see is

a) they decide they want more space on the car, and if that's the case you can expect them to negotiate the price aggressively.
b) they want a race seat for Gutiérrez. Expect them to negotiate tough though, it won't be Sergio's seat times two... more like 1.5 or something.

I used to sell software to their companies and they are TOUGH...

#41 Mastah

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 14:37

Bad news, James Key is leaving:

http://www.sauberf1t...ical_department

Edited by Mastah, 03 February 2012 - 14:42.


#42 dau

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 14:49

That is bad news. Seems he'll leave with immediate effect and they don't even name a replacement, just talk about a "qualified team".

#43 PNSD

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 14:49

Me think its Williams or Mclaren.

Or maybe he's after the monies and gone to aerospace?

He's proven his worth for a few teams, the guy was pretty sought after last year from what I heard from several people..



#44 One

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 14:52

FI?

Or,.... indeed Williams..... Hardly Mclaren, perhaps Virgin?

#45 RedBaron

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 14:54

Probably Mercedes, they still have room to squeeze a few more people in the garage.

#46 UPRC

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 14:59

Probably Mercedes, they still have room to squeeze a few more people in the garage.

Mercedes?! :lol:

Man oh man, if he goes to Mercedes then they may as well just replace their entire staff with technical directors!

#47 hunnylander

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 15:06

If he'll go to McLaren then finally they can unlock the potential. :lol:

#48 dau

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 15:06

Mercedes?! :lol:

Man oh man, if he goes to Mercedes then they may as well just replace their entire staff with technical directors!

Gotta catch 'em all.

But isn't this a pretty bad time to leave, days before the new car hits the track? Also i doubt there's many potential TDs out there at this time of the year. And i don't know if a return of Rampf is realistic.

#49 Collective

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 16:40

Yep... we can rule out any post tests improvement now. The team will suck at Melbourne :(

#50 Don_Humpador

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 17:05

Ah shit.

This guy really helped stabilize Sauber.. I predict doom and gloom for all ye Sauber fans! :|