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#151 Alarcon

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 13:33

Di Resta a great driver? Have I missed something?


Of course he is a great driver. Hulkenberg and him are very equal this season and you can´t hype Nico without saying Di Resta is also a great driver.

He´s a DTM WDC and he was the best rookie last season. He proved he´s competitive with different cars and that talks about his talent.

If di Resta is not a great driver, what he is doing Nico is nothing special. Don´t know exactly how the fighting is on qualy and race teammate vs teammate, but should not be so different.

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#152 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 13:39

Of course he is a great driver. Hulkenberg and him are very equal this season and you can´t hype Nico without saying Di Resta is also a great driver.

Hulkenberg has been out of action for a whole season, yet he's quicker than Paul after only half a season. Di Resta was comprehensively beaten by Sutil last year as well. Average driver who's overhyped by the BBC.

He´s a DTM WDC and he was the best rookie last season. He proved he´s competitive with different cars and that talks about his talent.

No wonder he was rookie of the year. He had the fastest car of all rookies.

If di Resta is not a great driver, what he is doing Nico is nothing special. Don´t know exactly how the fighting is on qualy and race teammate vs teammate, but should not be so different.

You see Hulkenberg do exciting things during races, he overtakes people. You hardly ever see Di Resta in races. His qualifying performances have been pretty poor as well recently.

#153 Seanspeed

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 14:59

More and more doubts about should have Hulk gone to Sauber..

I dont think its as much of a lateral move as some say. I think Hulkenberg is better than Perez/Kobayashi and could show that Sauber to be better than those pair have. Also, long-term, it might be a safer alternative.

I also would like to see him at Ferrari in the future. Was a bit disappointed they didn't get him this year, but I can understand Ferrari's hesitation.

#154 whitevisor

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 00:08

This guy is moving to a slower car!

#155 whitevisor

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 00:11

This guy is moving to a slower car!

#156 scheivlak

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 00:17

This guy is moving to a slower car!

Maybe not in his hands.....

#157 Kvothe

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 00:21

Great race again, especially his defensive driving, looking forward to seeing him in a Sauber.

#158 seahawk

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:18

This guy is moving to a slower car!

And a team with a secure budget...

#159 packapoo

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:56

I dont think its as much of a lateral move as some say. I think Hulkenberg is better than Perez/Kobayashi and could show that Sauber to be better than those pair have. Also, long-term, it might be a safer alternative.

I also would like to see him at Ferrari in the future. Was a bit disappointed they didn't get him this year, but I can understand Ferrari's hesitation.


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#160 sofarapartguy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:46

Really, I begin to hate Macca to some degree.

#161 charly0418

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:49

I hate seeing him going to Sauber. To be honest I think Sauber will be crap next year. Just looking at the 2nd half of the season and since Monisha "officially" took over the car has gone downhill. I think they'll be below Williams and Force India in performance next year.

#162 noikeee

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:48

And a team with a secure budget...


Exactly. There's little between Sauber and FI at the moment, throughout most of the season Sauber were superior. This means next year only god knows which car will be faster from the box - slight favoritism for Sauber after their performances earlier this year - but with the massive advantage from Sauber that they're actually financially stable. It could even happen that FI have a good car in the beginning but no cash to develop it!!

The move could easily backfire but odds are on Hulk's favor. I think he's made the right decision.

#163 Massa

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:58

Another good season next year in a midfield car and a top car could await in 2014


But good enough to beat Vettel in F3 when they were teammates



It mean nothing... Frentzen and Wendlinger were both faster than Schumacher before F1..

Anyway, i don't think Hulk move was bad. Sauber is a much better team and have a much better facilities than Force India. Sauber is a well established team, they can develop a car during a season, i don't think Force India will be able to do this next year.

I don't know why but i have the feeling that Force India will be in trouble next yaer,

#164 mprtc

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:22

people are saying that " force india in trouble in next year " since first year .... but this team is doing well every year

#165 noikeee

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:23

Well it's the first time we've heard of their team owner being given arrest warrants for failed payments in his other companies.

#166 PapaD

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:16

I've been very impressed with Hulkenberg over the second half of the season. I agree with the poster above who thinks he will get a good drive in 2014. Maybe Ferrari or Red Bull.

#167 F1ultimate

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:06

I've been very impressed with Hulkenberg over the second half of the season. I agree with the poster above who thinks he will get a good drive in 2014. Maybe Ferrari or Red Bull.


He has certainly come of age. From being an adverage midfielder to performing some impressive converge and points collection, he has certainly placed himself at the front of the 2014 shopping window. However, a driver is only as good as their last race so things can go downhill from here who knows. Just look at how Perez has gone from everyone's golden child to the punching bag of 2012 H2.

#168 Dolph

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 17:39

He´s a DTM WDC



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 16:03

Well it's the first time we've heard of their team owner being given arrest warrants for failed payments in his other companies.


That is two separate companies from Force India. Remember Force India are now faster than Mercedes and Williams. they have Mclaren facilities, equipment and services too. Plus, their developments have always been strong come the end of the year.

#170 Anderis

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 17:36

Remember Force India are now faster than Mercedes and Williams.

They're only faster than Williams if you include Hulk's incredible efforts recently. Still Maldonado is the one who could qualify in top5 in some recent races (Abu Dhabi, Singapore) and Force India's drivers couldnt'. Even in the last race you could see that Williams had clearly better pace but drivers failed to "survive" first corners inside top10 and that's why they've lost to Hulk.

#171 britishtrident

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 20:51

Well it's the first time we've heard of their team owner being given arrest warrants for failed payments in his other companies.


Over many decades the history of F1 & GP racing has many examples of team owners and promoters being pursued by the law very questionable financial transactions and other issues. To give an example If Chunky Chapman had survived his heart attack he would likely have ended up as Fred Bushell's cell mate. http://www.grandprix...ref-busfre.html At Bushell's trial the judge stated if Chapman had lived longer he would have been sent to jail for ten years for "outrageous and massive fraud".

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#172 DS27

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 16:53

Hulkenberg has really owned DiResta for the best part of this year. Hope Sauber produce a decent car for him next year.

#173 sofarapartguy

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:02

Man of the year.

#174 seahawk

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:09

The Hulk should have Perez´s or Massa´s seat. Amazing second half of the season.

#175 KavB

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:12

Wow. This guy is the real deal. His points may not show it but he really is. If only he showed it earlier in the season and he could have been the one to go to McLaren.

#176 Lord_Shaitan

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:21

Man of the year.

To be really fair I'd say Man of the 2nd half of the year. Di Resta had better times all the weekend long but it was Nico who was faster when it mattered.

#177 PorcupineTroy

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:54

He took a few races to get up to speed with Di Resta, and I originally started to doubt whether all the hype surrounding him pre-2010 was indeed just hot air. Fast forward to Brazil, and the Hulk has very much outshone Paul in the last flyaway stage of the season. He also hasn't been making an ass out of himself by banging wheels with everyone around him, which has been the fate for an unfortunate few this year. If I were Martin Whitmarsh, I would be having some serious second thoughts right now.

Well done Nico, here's hoping for a strong 2013! :up:

#178 apoka

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:58

Great performance again! P7-P9 may be possible tomorrow.

#179 joshb

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:01

Really putting it together now. Wonder if Mclaren are regretting not signing him...

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:03

Wow. This guy is the real deal. His points may not show it but he really is. If only he showed it earlier in the season and he could have been the one to go to McLaren.


Well he did. He was by his own admission race rusty during the flyaways, but he has been the fastest Force India driver since Barcelona with the only exception of Singapore.

#181 ZuTiMa

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:08

Really putting it together now. Wonder if Mclaren are regretting not signing him...



Let me quote Martin Whitmarsh's own words a bit.....haha

He's also not going to say that he's made an awful mistake.
I hope he thinks today that he's made an awful mistake and I hope he thinks that next year.
"He's made that decision and he has to live with that decision."

#182 Talisman

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:13

That is two separate companies from Force India. Remember Force India are now faster than Mercedes and Williams. they have Mclaren facilities, equipment and services too. Plus, their developments have always been strong come the end of the year.


Force India relies almost entirely on Mallya's other groups for sponsorship with Sahara being the only non-Mallya cash injector, and they've been hit with a $4 billion fine in India.

I think they've done well with what they have but there's no doubt Sauber is better sorted in the long run. As a Sauber supporter I think Hulkenberg is a very good signing unlike the other guy they've just signed. Kobayashi and Hulkenberg would have been the ultimate midfield pairing but sadly we've been denied that spectacle.

Edited by Talisman, 24 November 2012 - 18:13.


#183 Talisman

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:15

If only he showed it earlier in the season and he could have been the one to go to McLaren.


Hulkenberg could have won a couple of races and he still wouldn't have been signed by McLaren. Same goes for Mercedes' golden boy Di Resta.

Ultimately McLaren are looking to tap into new sponsorship markets with their new driver. Perez gives them that, neither Hulkenberg nor Di Resta do. Whatever Whitmarsh says driving ability was a secondary concern.

#184 DS27

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 16:42

Followed MS since his first F1 race. After announcing his retirement, I knew I needed someone else to cheer for, and thought Hulk seemed like a good choice.

Looks an even better choice now! Howe the hell is he only driving for Sauber next year...

#185 Shiroo

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 16:43

Perez gets McLaren and such raw talent gets Sauber... Why? He deserves top 4 team (can he stillc hange team from Sauber to Lotus for example?)

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 18:08

Why isn't this guy at McLaren?

#187 seahawk

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 18:11

Decent race today, too bad he took Lewis out.

#188 TFLB

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 18:14

He threw away a win today.

#189 Towny

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 18:45

Get lost.

Ok but only if you do the same :p

#190 shonguiz

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 18:52

Just raw talent.

#191 KavB

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 18:58

A huge mistake but he proved he is one of the top drivers today. I hope he gets a top drive soon.

#192 jrg19

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 18:59

Shame he took Lewis out, still showed how good he is going to be.

#193 ivand911

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:03

Good race for Hulk. Did mistake(in hard conditions), but so did Alonso(leave the track) and Vettel.

#194 SennaJordan

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:04

The best he can hope in the future for is the number 2 seat in a Ferrari. But they're not that dumb. They didn't fall for Perez and they won't fall for this brainless driver.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:09

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Name: Nico Hulkenberg
Age: 24 (D/O/B:19/08/87)
Nationality: German
Current team: Force India
Career Highlights:
- 2009 GP2 Champion
- 2008 F3 Euroseries Champion
- 2007 A1GP Champion


Now that Germany's forgotten son has got himself back into an f1 race seat, can he remind the world of what he promised to do in f1 when he was coming through the junior series?

2012 will be an especially decisive year for him, given that he is pitted against another highly rated youngster in the shape of Paul di Resta.


Decisive indeed, has this year been.
And remind indeed, has he about what he promised us in his younger days.

Great drive Hulk. Looking forward to watching you, god willing, fight for many a victory in the years to come.

#196 apoka

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:48

Great drive! Unfortunately, that one mistake was very costly. He lost the car in difficult conditions, but it I don't think it was malicious or overly optimistic. Looked more like a racing incident.

He seems to be special at Interlagos.


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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:59

Brilliant race from Hulk until the mistake, it was his chance to get past and i dont blame him for trying, 2nd place is the 1st of the losers. Obviously he needs to make those kind of moves stick in the future if he wants a top ride.

#198 SteF1an

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:01

Man of the race and one of the best drivers in 2012! :up:

#199 Fastcake

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:09

A shame about the safety car really, him and Button had that race sewn up before that. He deserved to be on the podium today, though I don't think he would of win. One of the McLaren's would of got back past in either scenario.

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#200 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:18

Today's race makes me wonder even more why McLaren choose Pérez over Hülkenberg.