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[Rentta]

50: Philippe Alliot
49: Michael Andretti
48: Nigel Mansell
47: Andrea de Cesaris
46. Derek Bell
45. John Surtees
44 Chris Amon
43 Jackie Oliver
42 David Hobbs
41 Peter Gethin
40. Nelson Piquet
39. Carlos Reutemann
38. John Cannon
37. Masanori Sekiya
36. Bruno Giacomelli
35. Yannick Dalmas
34. J.J. Lehto
33. Brett Lunger
32. Andrea de Adamich
31. Jo Bonnier
30: Vic Elford
29. Jacky Ickx
28. Tim Mayer
27. Alexander Wurz
26. Brian Redman
25. Mark Blundell
24. Patrick Tambay
23. Mike Hailwood
22. Jochen Mass
21. Gilles Villeneuve
20. Martin Brundle
19. Stefan Johansson
18. Jody Scheckter
17. Juan Pablo Montoya
16. Mark Donohue
15. Kimi Räikkönen
14. Gerhard Berger
13 :: Dan Gurney
12: Johnny Rutherford.
11 Denny Hulme.
List is here : http://www.mclaren.c...atest-drivers-8

Top 10 is yet to be announced

Edited by Rentta, 24 January 2012 - 20:01.

[SpeedRacer`]

Raikkonen's too low.

[Concorde]

LOL Michael Andretti on that list

[kosmos]

I wonder about Alonso....

1-Mika
2-Hamilton

[ferrarijon123]

Raikkonen's too low.

Yeah i agree. It'll probably be between Senna and Hakkinen for number 1 with Prost and Hamilton behind. Not sure if i've missed any other obvious ones.
Can't imagine Alonso will be that high

Edited by ferrarijon123, 24 December 2011 - 11:29.

[gillesthegenius]

LOL Michael Andretti on that list

And only one place behind 'Ole Nige'!!!

[gillesthegenius]

Yeah i agree. It'll probably be between Senna and Hakkinen for number 1 with Prost and Hamilton behind. Not sure if i've missed any other obvious ones.
Can't imagine Alonso will be that high

My expectation:
1) Senna
2) Prost
3) Hakkinen

[Jovanotti]

Raikkonen's too low.

Yep, agree...and i wonder about Alonso. Top 13 would be too high in that list, but he should definitely be in top 50. I guess they just cut him out .

Thats just PR BS imho.

Edited by Jovanotti, 24 December 2011 - 11:37.

[expert]

Hunt, Button, Coulthard, Lauda, Mclaren himself also still to come.

[Owen]

Hunt, Button, Coulthard, Lauda, Mclaren himself also still to come.

and Ayrton and his nemesis.

[gillesthegenius]

Hunt, Button, Coulthard, Lauda, Mclaren himself also still to come.

One can add Hamilton, Alonso, Hakkinen, Senna, Prost and Fittipaldi to that list and that makes it 11. Who could the other two be?

[Trust]

Who vote this? McLaren fans?

[expert]

1. Senna
2. Prost
3. Mika
4. Fittapaldi
5. Hamilton
6. Mclaren
7. Lauda
8. Hunt
9. Hulme
10. Coulthard
11. Button
12. Alonso *
13. Rosberg **



* should not be higher than Kimi but would seem childish to leave him out so have to assume he's there.

** don't really think this is right - trying to think of someone who had more success at Mclaren

Yeah Kimi should be top 10 despite no championship IMO

Edited by expert, 24 December 2011 - 11:45.

[Owen]

One can add Hamilton, Alonso, Hakkinen, Senna, Prost and Fittipaldi to that list and that makes it 11. Who could the other two be?

heikki!

[Jovanotti]

One can add Hamilton, Alonso, Hakkinen, Senna, Prost and Fittipaldi to that list and that makes it 11. Who could the other two be?

De La Rosa and Bruce McLaren..?

Edited by Jovanotti, 24 December 2011 - 11:46.

[Kvothe]

I wonder about Alonso....

1-Mika
2-Hamilton

McLaren have already said that current or very recent drivers are not included so no Button, Hamilton or Alonso will feature in the list.

[IsometricBacon]

McLaren have already said that current or very recent drivers are not included so no Button, Hamilton or Alonso will feature in the list.

That makes no sense. They are better than many on that list.

[gillesthegenius]

heikki!

Given that he doesnt feature anywhere else in the top 50, he could very well be part of the top 13. But it surely would be a joke to have him above Kimi.

[PretentiousBread]

That makes no sense. They are better than the vast majority of that list.

Fixed

[Bonaventura]

That makes no sense. They are better than many on that list.

Equality, equality-nonsense
Lewis would be higher than Button because of his WDC for McLaren

[Flux]

It says no active drivers, so that rules out Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Kovalainen or de la Rosa. Although Raikkonen should now be deleted from the list going by that rule...

Has to be Senna, Hakkinen Prost in the top 3.

Edited by Flux, 24 December 2011 - 11:51.

[g1n]

McLaren have already said that current or very recent drivers are not included so no Button, Hamilton or Alonso will feature in the list.

yeah..this is why their top 50 is ridiculous, they shouldn't have done it, just opens a can of worms. Fanboys and Haters on your marks...

[Kvothe]

That makes no sense. They are better than many on that list.

Taken from the website

We put some rules in place. Since this is about the greatest drivers in McLaren's history, there are no active drivers on the list, so no Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button or Fernando Alonso for example. It’s not just F1 either, as McLaren cars have graced many series over the years. Also, the drivers are ranked on their contribution to McLaren only - not their overall career

I agree, but it gives them an excuse to redo the list in around 10 years time.

[Kvothe]

Equality, equality-nonsense
Lewis would be higher than Button because of his WDC for McLaren

Well Ron's already said that his top three drivers are Senna, Hakkinen and Hamiilton.

[expert]

In that case at least 3 more names needed. I'm stumped!

[rolf123]

List ought to be renamed. It's not McLarens 50 great drivers. It's just Mclaren drivers ordered in greatness. Half of that list were not "great" by any stretch of the imagination.

[expert]

Watson?

[expert]

Rutherford - based on non-F1 parameters

[Les]

Wow based on Suzuka 05 alone Räikkönen should be higher. In fact he was a pretty fantastic driver at McLaren, it was only after he left that things went downhill for him.

[GeoffR]

1. Bruce McLaren - otherwise there would be no McLaren!

[expert]

Revised prediction excluding current drivers


1. Senna
2. Prost
3. Rutherford
4. Mika
5. Hulme
6. Fittapaldi
7. Lauda
8. Hunt
9. Mclaren
10. Revson
11. Coulthard
12. Watson
13. Rosberg

Edited by expert, 24 December 2011 - 12:08.

[Fastcake]

Chances are McLarens only had 50 different drivers, hence why they're doing the list now.

They've been going through it since June, surprised you only just noticed it! Nice to read their history anyway

[freya]

Chances are McLarens only had 50 different drivers, hence why they're doing the list now.

They've been going through it since June, surprised you only just noticed it! Nice to read their history anyway

Might be wrong but I think they are on it since end of 2010 or something.

[hunnylander]

The McLaren WDCs will be at the top, I guess.


Senna (3/3), Prost (3/4), Lauda (1/3), Hakkinen (2/2), Fittipaldi (1/2), Hunt (1), Hamilton (1).


I'm pretty sure the Top 2 will be Senna and Prost.

Edited by hunnylander, 24 December 2011 - 12:46.

[Zava]

The McLaren WDCs will be at the top, I guess.


Senna (3/3), Prost (3/4), Lauda (1/3), Fittipaldi (1/2), Hunt (1) and Hamilton (1).


I'm pretty sure the Top 2 will be Senna and Prost.

it was already stated that no Hamilton (and Button, Alonso) in the list.

[teejay]

Nowhere in that post does he mention those 3.

[hunnylander]

it was already stated that no Hamilton (and Button, Alonso) in the list.

Ah OK, just reading that.

We put some rules in place. Since this is about the greatest drivers in McLaren's history, there are no active drivers on the list, so no Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button or Fernando Alonso for example.

This is clever, and would overcome some complains from the fans, but they ran into 'problems' with Kimi then. Obviously when they started/made the list, Kimi was no active, but he should be considered active again.

[KavB]

I think it should be:
1. Prost
2. Senna
3. Hakkinen

But I'm sure Senna will be number one.

I'm surprised Raikkonen isn't in the top 10.. I'm even more surprised Berger was rated higher than him! He had three wins at McLaren and was nowhere near a championship despite his teammate winning two. Mansell being rated so low gives me the impression that this list is about drivers with the greatest contribution to McLaren but then why is Villeneuve so high?

[scheivlak]

So they rate Coulthard higher than Raikkonen.
That's rather strange.

[Francesc]

Where's Jan Magnussen?

[montoyasminion]

I'm not saying Andretti was any good, cause he wasn't... but he at least managed to score some points, and one podium. Mansell didn't score any points for McLaren, neither did Bell, or Piquet. And they even put de Cesaris ahead of him on that list, the man crashed out of probably 10 races that year. Strange list.

[sopa]

So they rate Coulthard higher than Raikkonen.
That's rather strange.

Indeed, but maybe that's because Coulthard stayed at McLaren for many more years and contributed to more WCC's. One, that is, though. Also DC has won more races for McLaren than Raikkonen. 12 to 9.

[hunnylander]

Indeed, but maybe that's because Coulthard stayed at McLaren for many more years and contributed to more WCC's. One, that is, though. Also DC has won more races for McLaren than Raikkonen. 12 to 9.

Well, the list will represent Alan Henry's views and opinions, but it seems in many decisions it'll be based on numbers.

[Starish]

Once Kovalainen and Alonso aren't above Raikkonen I can live with that even though he is way to close to JPM.

[wrcva]

it says

... the drivers are ranked on their contribution to McLaren only - not their overall career - so be prepared for a few surprises in the coming weeks and months!

Maybe they are going by WCC but still does not make much sense. Kimi collected more points than DC (over their McL tenure)... --using these stats...

[SpeedRacer`]

I think Coulthard will be a lot higher than people think, actually. I think it's about overall contribution so as McLaren's longest serving driver I can see him making the top 5 behind Senna, Hakkinen and Prost

[SpeedRacer`]

it says

... the drivers are ranked on their contribution to McLaren only - not their overall career - so be prepared for a few surprises in the coming weeks and months!

Maybe they are going by WCC but still does not make much sense. Kimi collected more points than DC (over their McL tenure)... --using these stats...

They also said Kimi drove for 4 seasons, when it fact it was 5

[wrcva]

They also said Kimi drove for 4 seasons, when it fact it was 5

they also show 5 seasons

[nada12]

Well Ron's already said that his top three drivers are Senna, Hakkinen and Hamilton.

Those are certainly his three golden boys, but if that's really how he ranks his top 3 of all drivers that have driven for him then he's out to lunch.

[Raziel]

Best McLaren Drivers & their contribution to McLaren's history:

1. Ayrton Senna 35 wins (3xWDC)
2. Alain Prost 30 wins (3xWDC)
3. Mika Hakkinen 20 wins (2xWDC)
4. Lewis Hamilton 17 wins (1xWDC)
5. James Hunt 9 wins (1WDC)
6. Niki Lauda 8 wins (1xWDC)
7. Emerson Fitipaldi 5 wins (1xWDC)
7. David Coulthard 12 wins
8. Kimi Raikkonen 9 wins
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Jenson Button 5 wins
Fernando Alonso 4 wins
Heikki Kovalainen 1 win

This is THE list