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#1 D-Type

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 16:03

This thread was split from another, which now resides in HR. Please take note of my post later in this thread regarding our BB rules...

I know they don't like us to mention the "opposition", but have you posted the same question on Ten-Tenths? Their demograph seems to have more ex- club racers than here.

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#2 Mistron

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 17:20


I don't really understand the 'us and them' divide, but yes, I've tried in their 'motorsports history' section, though sadly with similar results. also via classic clubmans and the 750mc forums

#3 Catalina Park

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 04:25

Is there really an us and them divide? I have never ever seen anyone here get warned for mentioning another forum. (But I did get warned for mentioning this forum when I was over there.)

#4 Stephen W

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:56

Is there really an us and them divide? I have never ever seen anyone here get warned for mentioning another forum. (But I did get warned for mentioning this forum when I was over there.)


I'm banned on 10/10ths but do occasionally have a shuftie!

:wave:

#5 h4887

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 12:00

I'm banned on 10/10ths but do occasionally have a shuftie!

:wave:


Do tell! :wave:


#6 Stephen W

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 11:12

I'm banned on 10/10ths but do occasionally have a shuftie!

:wave:



Do tell! :wave:


I just made a comment on how awful a particular upgrade was. I was initially Yellow Carded but when I asked how the system worked it ended in me being banned. Funnily enough the particular upgrade was removed as it was universally denegrated. I understand at least one other person was banned (not sure if it was a permanent or short term ban) for asking for my re-instatement.

:cool:

Edited by Stephen W, 30 December 2011 - 11:12.


#7 Catalina Park

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 13:26

I got warned for bagging an upgrade. I told them it couldn't be called an upgrade if it went slower.

I also got warned for the use of the word "bugger". Well bugger me! Which one of you buggers called that bugger a "bugger"?

#8 h4887

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 20:24

And now I have official confirmation of my irrelevance! Must try harder in 2012 :rotfl:

#9 Vitesse2

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 22:41

I got warned for bagging an upgrade. I told them it couldn't be called an upgrade if it went slower.

I also got warned for the use of the word "bugger". Well bugger me! Which one of you buggers called that bugger a "bugger"?

Bugger!

Never been banned, but did once have a run-in with them after I linked to a TNF thread and got a warning, which they grudgingly rescinded. I still check 10/10 every day, but seldom find much of interest - I post more in Parc Fermé than the historic section.

Their loss, not mine :rolleyes:

#10 Bloggsworth

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 22:54

I just made a comment on how awful a particular upgrade was. I was initially Yellow Carded but when I asked how the system worked it ended in me being banned. Funnily enough the particular upgrade was removed as it was universally denegrated. I understand at least one other person was banned (not sure if it was a permanent or short term ban) for asking for my re-instatement.

:cool:


Similar thing happened to me on the official Apple forum; I complained about their attitude to their customers, and being American and totally lacking in irony, they banned me :rotfl:

Had a barney with AMAZON on Wednesday. I emailed them complaining at the lack of a LOG-OUT button on the secure parts of their website...

In response, they phoned me.

"You click on Not Bloggsworth"

"But I am Bloggsworth, why would I click the Not Bloggsworth, and anyway, it’s not available on nearly all your pages?"

"Well that's what you do. When you have completed your order you are returned to the opening page, where you can click on the Not Bloggsworth button."

"But I am Bloggsworth, so why would I click on the Not Bloggsworth button; and anyway, I might just be updating account details - Why not just have a big LOG OUT button?"

"Well, we are not going to change the website..."

I had to go through 3 or 4 levels of HELP pages to find out that information which rather leads me to suspect that “Cookies” are involved – And incidentally, they have changed the default delivery method to the most expensive option, so keep a lookout!

Edited by Bloggsworth, 31 December 2011 - 23:06.


#11 macoran

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 23:30

Is there really an us and them divide? I have never ever seen anyone here get warned for mentioning another forum. (But I did get warned for mentioning this forum when I was over there.)

Go over to the Ultimate Cars whotsit and mention TNF and get that Dutch bugger all over you !!!! Jeeezz !!!

#12 Catalina Park

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 00:41

I rarely start threads and I certainly didn't start this one.
Couldn't the opening post have been the one that I was responding to instead of the response that I made? ):

#13 eldougo

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 00:49

Well if you did not start the Thread who did ? your name is at the top quite rightly on post 1.

Happy New Years Michael.

Edited by eldougo, 01 January 2012 - 00:50.


#14 Catalina Park

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:04

Happy new your to you too Doug.

The thread was split from another one as it was dragging the original thread off topic. But this one looks silly because it is missing a vital element, the actual subject. :drunk:

#15 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:14

I waste far too much time on these associated threads to go elsewhere.
I have on occasion glimpsed others with links but seldom can read them as I have to log in.

#16 Phil Rainford

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:46

I'm banned on 10/10ths but do occasionally have a shuftie!

:wave:



PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER". ( Gracho Marx ) :rotfl:



PAR


#17 Frank S

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 02:22

I was banned once, from a forum of (Marque) enthusiasts by a "moderator" whose avowed puopose was to keep the forum "running smooth". The ban was because of something I addressed to him in a Personal Message.

I would say the general run of forum administrators is/are REDACTED and REDACTED if not downright REDACTED REDACTED.

PS: I watched five Marx brothers movies in a row today. Graucho was in fine form, as always.

Edited by Frank S, 01 January 2012 - 02:25.


#18 eldougo

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 03:44

Happy new your to you too Doug.
The thread was split from another one as it was dragging the original thread off topic. But this one looks silly because it is missing a vital element, the actual subject. :drunk:


Ok now i get it seems strange but that the way it happens on a forum,I will not say to much the moderator might be onto me. :rotfl:

#19 Ray Bell

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 04:30

Originally posted by Catalina Park
.....I also got warned for the use of the word "bugger". Well bugger me! Which one of you buggers called that bugger a "bugger"?


That word had something to do with me ultimately being banned from there too...

They're very, very sensitive about things to do with that word.

Mind you, pointing out that someone who had consistently razzed me for posting pics bigger than a certain size (claiming that very few in England had anything other than very slow dial-up connections) had posted a pic bigger than said size didn't do me any favours.

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#20 gtsmunro

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 04:38

Seems crazy to be warned or banned for the word 'bugger'. What do they do when the Toyota ad comes on???

#21 Ray Bell

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 06:15

It's a Pommie forum, do they have that ad there?

It might also depend on the context in which it was used...

#22 Stinky

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 06:38

Hi Guys;
Happy New Year to all. :wave:
If they are so sensitive to the "B'"word.
Why not use the Pidgin English versions?
i.e. If not too badly damaged "Im e all bugarup."
If damage terminal "Im e all bugarup pinish." :lol:
Can't be hung for using proper language. :rotfl:
Cheers.
Roger.

#23 arttidesco

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:29

TNF never ceases to be a fountain of useful information I always understood a bugger translated as bucket excavator in German in fact the correct spelling in German for bucket excavator is Bagger.

I have been banned from the odd marque forum for mentioning other sites and am of the opinion they are missing the point of the internetwork and associated traffic on which all successful websites thrive.

#24 Mistron

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:07

Happy new your to you too Doug.

The thread was split from another one as it was dragging the original thread off topic. But this one looks silly because it is missing a vital element, the actual subject. :drunk:


Hi folks.
To clarify, this thread evolved from a suggestion in the tread about my old clubmans car (in the historical research forum) that I also ask on 10/10ths. This discussion evolved from that, and as such was moved to it's own thread by a moderator.

Al

#25 Stephen W

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:11

Never been banned, but did once have a run-in with them after I linked to a TNF thread and got a warning, which they grudgingly rescinded. I still check 10/10 every day, but seldom find much of interest - I post more in Parc Fermé than the historic section.

Their loss, not mine :rolleyes:


My attitude exactly. I did request that they removed all my posts and the posts that quoted my posts but I was ignored!

I rarely start threads and I certainly didn't start this one.
Couldn't the opening post have been the one that I was responding to instead of the response that I made? ):


Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!

PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER". ( Gracho Marx ) :rotfl:

PAR


I always used to quote Marx but for some reason I was banned by the Conservative Club!

It's a Pommie forum, do they have that ad there?

It might also depend on the context in which it was used...


Excuse me, Pommie is a racist slur! However you can't expect anything better from a nation who can't play cricket!

:rotfl:

#26 David McKinney

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 11:54

Excuse me, Pommie is a racist slur!

I realise yours was a light-hearted comment, but this is a common misconception. Pom and pommie are Australasian words for British people. They are no more racist than 'Brit' - or even 'Englishman'


#27 Ray Bell

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 12:32

And, of course, Ten Tenths seems to be full of those Pommie buggers...

Some with very little tolerance of anything.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 13:47

It's a Pommie forum, do they have that ad there?


No. Several years ago my parents sent me a T-shirt with the word emblasoned across the chest. They were apparently all the rage in NZ at the time. It remains unworn as very few people in SE England would associate it with a Toyota ad.

#29 Vitesse2

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 14:04

... few people in SE England would associate it with a Toyota ad.

And even fewer in Ireland, where 10/10 is now run from.

Not that I'm suggesting any connection between the word bugger and Catholic priests ...

As for tolerance, Ray - we British are as nothing compared to some of the Septics who inhabit Parc Fermé. One or two of 'em make Todd look like a liberal :rolleyes:

#30 Ray Bell

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 14:55

A few I struck in my time there, Speedy, were very intolerant Brits...

I suspect mainly because they knew quite literally what 'bugger' meant.

#31 Derwent Motorsport

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 15:11

Just out of interest who owns and runs 10/10s?

#32 Thundersport

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 15:22

Some Irish chap I believe

Edited by Thundersport, 01 January 2012 - 15:23.


#33 Doug Nye

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 16:13

What is this 10/10ths? :smoking:

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#34 D-Type

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 16:33

What is this 10/10ths? :smoking:

DCN

Another forum who are a little bit "precious" about any contributor posting links or references to other forums, particularly this one.

#35 alansart

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 16:34

What is this 10/10ths? :smoking:

DCN


Another Motor Sport forum.

I post on both here and there, although less on 10/10th's than in the past. They do have certain rules that I find odd, but you agree to abide by them when you sign up. I've directed people from here to 10/10th's and visa versa, so far without any comeback. I take care to be a bit more subtle about it these days.

Sadly at times some of the most interesting people end up getting banned :(

Edited by alansart, 01 January 2012 - 16:36.


#36 elansprint72

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 16:41

Similar thing happened to me on the official Apple forum; I complained about their attitude to their customers, and being American and totally lacking in irony, they banned me :rotfl:

Had a barney with AMAZON on Wednesday. I emailed them complaining at the lack of a LOG-OUT button on the secure parts of their website...

In response, they phoned me.

"You click on Not Bloggsworth"

"But I am Bloggsworth, why would I click the Not Bloggsworth, and anyway, it’s not available on nearly all your pages?"

"Well that's what you do. When you have completed your order you are returned to the opening page, where you can click on the Not Bloggsworth button."

"But I am Bloggsworth, so why would I click on the Not Bloggsworth button; and anyway, I might just be updating account details - Why not just have a big LOG OUT button?"

"Well, we are not going to change the website..."

I had to go through 3 or 4 levels of HELP pages to find out that information which rather leads me to suspect that “Cookies” are involved – And incidentally, they have changed the default delivery method to the most expensive option, so keep a lookout!



I don't seem to have a "Not Bloggsworth" button on my Amazon. I'm going to contact them to complain. :smoking:

#37 ghinzani

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:20

I have allegiance to both, lets face it they are the two best places on the net to discuss whatever it is we discuss.

#38 pacificquay

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 15:46

I used to be on 10/10ths (under a different username to this), but was bullied out of it by the powers-that-be

#39 slucas

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 16:01

What is this 10/10ths? :smoking:

DCN


10/10ths is a whole, or a hole if you're following the "bugger" discussion

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#40 MCS

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 16:28

......I have never ever seen anyone here get warned for mentioning another forum.......


I did recently when I posted a few links to some photos elsewhere, despite issuing an apology of sorts for doing so. In other words I wasn't sure it was quite the right thing to do.

Ironically, my initial post was followed by others; one which stated that they too had thought of starting a thread in the same vein.

The thread was deleted and I was told I had crossed a line. No problem with that.

A somewhat belated Happy New Year to all TNFers! :)

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 16:41

PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER". ( Gracho Marx ) :rotfl:

PS: I watched five Marx brothers movies in a row today. Graucho was in fine form, as always.


At the risk of being banned for being a pedantic b****r, wasn't it GROUCHO? Certainly that's what the club is called....

#42 Thundersport

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 18:22

They banned the most interesting and funny poster "driftwood".

#43 Bob Riebe

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 18:44

I seem to hit their pissant button at least once a year or so, the latest being I used the word slut in P. Ferme area but at the same time have on occasion used quotes from other forums with no problems.

I have had warning from mod. there saying if it was his choice I would be gone but he was over-ruled.

Now Track Forum, that is a bunch of twits.
I was banned there for not treating Walter Cronkite with the respect they demanded when that liberal hypocrite died.

#44 Vitesse2

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 19:06

they too had thought of starting a thread in the same vein.

The thread was deleted and I was told I had crossed a line. No problem with that.

A somewhat belated Happy New Year to all TNFers! :)

Mark S

Could've been worse. Twinsdale could have nailed your head to the floor for transgressing the unwritten rule ...









I'll get me coat :rolleyes:

#45 MCS

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 19:14

Could've been worse. Twinsdale could have nailed your head to the floor for transgressing the unwritten rule ...



I'll get me coat :rolleyes:


He was actually very good about it, although he did threaten me with a thermonuclear device at one point...

Edited by MCS, 04 January 2012 - 19:14.


#46 alansart

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 19:21

They banned the most interesting and funny poster "driftwood".


What a character, but he did seem to rub them up the wrong way. His Facebook page is a laugh, not that he posts much there either.


#47 Frank S

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 20:44

At the risk of being banned for being a pedantic b****r, wasn't it GROUCHO? Certainly that's what the club is called....

Tit fer tat. (Can I say that?)

#48 Thundersport

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 22:27

What a character, but he did seem to rub them up the wrong way. His Facebook page is a laugh, not that he posts much there either.

Agree it is; he does lurk here sometimes but is a rare sighting.......

#49 Allen Brown

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 14:14

I used to post very regularly on 10 Tenths but left for a multiplicity of reasons. One was a particular poster who was insulting owners when they provided information about their cars, and another was an increasing discomfort at the amount of ads being put onto the site, which led to a sneaking feeling that content I was writing was earning somebody else a good amount of money, but the final straw was when they changed the links from 10 Tenths to OldRacingCars.com such that the amount of visitors to my site from 10 Tenths dropped by more than 90%. As a source of visits, 10 Tenths used to be not far behind TNF but now it's down on page 3 together with the Japanese version of Google and a Russian site that's doing a very systematic job of ripping off ORC's F1 results.

As has been said, their loss ...

#50 alansart

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 14:54

As has been said, their loss ...


Interesting comments.

I quite enjoy their Historic section and the Chassis History Archive is interesting, although I'm not sure if it helps or hinders ORC.

Personally, I think one site should compliment the other and share info. Many people here, and there have a lot in common.

Edited by alansart, 06 January 2012 - 14:54.