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#351 lambylamby

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:38

Agreed, they deserve some highlights.

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#352 RF1 fan

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 14:40

Good pace from Pic.

He will progress.

#353 FordFan

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 14:43

Glock improved from 1.9 back of Petrov in qualy, to 1.3 - and to 4.7 from 6 seconds from pole. And at a longer circuit.

Bodes well for future competitiveness. Caterham will start feeling the pressure if this continues - especially given their preseason bluster.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 15:22

Bodes well for future competitiveness. Caterham will start feeling the pressure if this continues - especially given their preseason bluster.


Marussia appears to have made more progress than Caterham this year, despite budget troubles and lack of testing - oh and still lack of KERS yes? Are they doing something right, or is Caterham doing something wrong?

The Cosworth gave Williams several problems - cooling, packaging, power degradation and inferior mapping technology. The latter was a big problem with last year's EBD. So I guess we can assume the Marussia chassis is not bad?


#355 Petroltorque

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 16:15

I think the loss of the EBD was a big blow for all the Reanault teams except Lotus Renault who ran a less effective FEE.

#356 Sanman59

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 12:19

Shame to see Robert Wickens go!

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#357 sergeym

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 17:55

Marussia appears to have made more progress than Caterham this year, despite budget troubles and lack of testing - oh and still lack of KERS yes? Are they doing something right, or is Caterham doing something wrong?

The Cosworth gave Williams several problems - cooling, packaging, power degradation and inferior mapping technology. The latter was a big problem with last year's EBD. So I guess we can assume the Marussia chassis is not bad?


They may be more reliable, but they are still massively slower than caterham.

#358 Wingcommander

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:20

A strange accident for Timo, but the team seem to think it wasn't a mechanical failure. Apart from that, the pace seemed to be very good. Glock only 0,3s off Petrov. He was very fast on the twisty bits of the track, but lost massively in the last sector. They brought new front wing, rear brake drums and floor, and they seem to be working very well.

#359 Petroltorque

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 13:06

Marussia look to have closed up on Caterham. I think its a combination of getting their chassis sorted and Caterham failing to make progress.

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#360 BRG

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 18:17

They brought new front wing, rear brake drums and floor, and they seem to be working very well.

Brake drums? With 1950s technology like that, it is only a matter of time before they win the WCC

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:19

Brake drums? With 1950s technology like that, it is only a matter of time before they win the WCC

:rotfl: Just a copy paste from their press release. John Booth is an old fashioned guy :lol:

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 19:44

.6 from Caterham is a massive improvement. Only three seconds from pole, and Glock complaining the car was unbalanced.

They're coming.

#363 lambylamby

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:08

Great drive by glock!

#364 Wingcommander

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:19

Great drive by glock!


Yep, but i was suprised by Pic's performance. He was able to keep up with Timo for most of the race. Their race pace wasn't quite good enough to challenge the Caterhams. About a second per lap slower. But it's still good to see the car being relatively fast on the twisty bits. About the same sector times with the two Cats in S1 & S2.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 17:46

They are very impressive so far this year, fighting Caterham instead of HRT. I'm happy for them.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 17:49

quietly impressed by Marussia this season

#367 Wingcommander

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:44

What a strange weekend for Marussia. The fastest lap of the weekend was 1.36,5 by Glock in FP2(!). After that they went just backwards, and were over a second slower in qualifying. Timo even got beaten by de la Rosa. In the race Pic was quite fast, but both cars had engine problems. Something we haven't seen for a long time. Timo had some serious handling issues ever since FP2. After being quite competitive in China, Bahrain was clearly a step backwards. Hopefully they'll bring a lot of updates (that work) to Mugello and get closer to Caterham once again.

Edited by Wingcommander, 23 April 2012 - 05:45.


#368 midgrid

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:46

I was very impressed by Pic this weekend. He was faster than Glock (although Glock had a fuel pressure problem in qualifying), and was on the pace of the Caterhams and Toro Rossos in his second stint before he retired.

#369 Sumant

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 14:55

Just had a look at the standings... Surprised that they are in 10th. :up:

#370 Wingcommander

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 07:51

I was very impressed by Pic this weekend. He was faster than Glock (although Glock had a fuel pressure problem in qualifying), and was on the pace of the Caterhams and Toro Rossos in his second stint before he retired.


You're right. I didn't notice it during the race, but Pic was actually matching the laptimes of Vergne, Petrov and Ricciardo. Not bad.

#371 Owen

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:37

Celebs take on challenge of driving Marussia F1 car.
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#372 jrg19

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:42

Celebs take on challenge of driving Marussia F1 car.
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What car is that considering its 2008 regs?

#373 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:58

Maybe an Aguri?

#374 Owen

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:00

Maybe an Aguri?

looks like you're right to me.
http://www.f1technic...867119ae848cbcb

#375 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:36

Jesus, I thought it'd be at least a 2008 car :p :eek:

#376 Cavani

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 13:15

so marussia stole the super aguri and stickered it with transformers badges

Edited by Cavani, 27 April 2012 - 13:15.


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Posted 27 April 2012 - 13:22

At least one of those comedians is actually funny...

#378 lambylamby

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 09:22

Almost disappearing on the forums, weird FP yesterday, starting to see HRT get ahead on this circuit, still that 11th place is in the bag. This is the track however that places can get gained for non point scoring teams in the championship...

#379 Wingcommander

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 07:43

Yeah not much going on in this thread, which i think reflects quite well on what's happening on the track with this team. The last few races have been disappointing, with Canada just highlighting the problems team have with this car. Apparently they have a bigger upgrade prepared for Silverstone and boy do they need it.

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#380 olliek88

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 17:08

Is Pat Symonds still working as a "contractor"  ;) for Marussia?

Got to say i'm disappointed with Marussia, not getting near the Caterham was pretty much expected but to be slipping into HRT's range is pretty poor, no disrespect to HRT but i thought Marussia would be comfortably clear of them. Hopefully they are just building a solid base so that come 2014 and the new regs they can jump much closer if not into the midfield teams.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 19:51

Is Pat Symonds still working as a "contractor" ;) for Marussia?

Got to say i'm disappointed with Marussia, not getting near the Caterham was pretty much expected but to be slipping into HRT's range is pretty poor, no disrespect to HRT but i thought Marussia would be comfortably clear of them. Hopefully they are just building a solid base so that come 2014 and the new regs they can jump much closer if not into the midfield teams.


Would you say HRT have improved or Marussia have got worse?

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 20:19

Would you say HRT have improved or Marussia have got worse?


Good point. :up:

Perhaps Marussua have stagnated a bit i the past 12 or so months & HRT have taken a step forward as well, what do you reckon? I probably didn't give HRT enough credit before.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 20:37

Good point. :up:

Perhaps Marussua have stagnated a bit i the past 12 or so months & HRT have taken a step forward as well, what do you reckon? I probably didn't give HRT enough credit before.


To be honest i think both have taken a step forward. HRT with its F112 is a new car, not being on the Dallara chassis has helped them, moving into Caja Magica and not being with Kolles has done wonders plus hiring Pedro was a very smart move.

Marussia too, but I'm not as involved but i belive the MR01 is based off the MVR02 chassis? but again they have moved into a new factory.

What is interesting that the HRT workforce is probably half of Marussia's as well.

#384 Wingcommander

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 20:47

Marussia too, but I'm not as involved but i belive the MR01 is based off the MVR02 chassis? but again they have moved into a new factory.


Atleast according to Symonds very little was carried over from last year's car. A completely new design was also one of the reasons why the car was so late.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 20:56

Atleast according to Symonds very little was carried over from last year's car. A completely new design was also one of the reasons why the car was so late.


Ohh ok, just what I read, at least I know that is why HRT was very late for their car, because nothing was carried over.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:25

There is a very interesting leader column in this week's Autosport on 2014 engine supply. What I found both interesting and reassuring is that Cosworth have confirmed that they are in active development of their 2014 engine. Cosworth's selling point remains that their engine will not carry the premium cost of the manufacturers and they are offering an integrated transmission. Are Marussi involved in the development of the transmission? Having pulled out of IRL it looks like Cosworths engine program will be centred around F1.

Edited by Petroltorque, 15 June 2012 - 06:26.


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Posted 15 June 2012 - 15:06

Cosworth's selling point remains that their engine will not carry the premium cost of the manufacturers and they are offering an integrated transmission.

Selling an engine based on cost, only appeals to teams that have no interest in winning.
Cosworth needs an edge other than cost, such as weight, power, CoG or reliability.
Cosworth needs to be at the table when the specs are written.


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Posted 15 June 2012 - 16:03

To be honest i think both have taken a step forward. HRT with its F112 is a new car, not being on the Dallara chassis has helped them, moving into Caja Magica and not being with Kolles has done wonders plus hiring Pedro was a very smart move.

Marussia too, but I'm not as involved but i belive the MR01 is based off the MVR02 chassis? but again they have moved into a new factory.

What is interesting that the HRT workforce is probably half of Marussia's as well.


Totally agree, Caterham have Heikki, Marussia have Timo and HRT needed another year with a good, solid driver in one of their cars. Tonio was a good call last year too but Pedro can't be a bad driver to develop their cars, Mclaren seemed to rate him as a test driver which suggests he's good with giving feedback to the team.

Also back on topic, i think one of the quiet revelations of this season has been Pic. I know that for the most part Glock has had the edge but for a rookie with zero experience and minimal pre season testing, all of which was in the old car, he has done a stellar job. If he continues to show good potential i hope Marussia keep him for a second year.

Edited by olliek88, 15 June 2012 - 16:04.


#389 Petroltorque

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 16:41

Selling an engine based on cost, only appeals to teams that have no interest in winning.
Cosworth needs an edge other than cost, such as weight, power, CoG or reliability.
Cosworth needs to be at the table when the specs are written.

Cosworth's selling point is the integrated transmission. The rules have already been written for the V6 ERS turbo and all manufacturers were involved. No small independent will afford a manufacturer engine with an estimated cost of euro 18 million and that's without the transmission. It's not as though teams can carry over transmissions into 2014 as the torque involved is so much greater.

#390 lambylamby

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:24

Marussia found a lot more performance unlocking that they have been looking into, according to the bbc live...

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:07

apparently they are trying testing runs to flesh it out in valencia... great that they found the performance, but can't help but feel the fact they missed testing earlier in the year irritated me somewhat. Still, Come on Marussia!

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:17

Celebs take on challenge of driving Marussia F1 car.
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How on earth did that fat mess Corden fit in an F1 car? :confused:



Anyway back on topic - it's become so apparent that Marussia hiring a female driver was nothing more than a cheap gimmick. Glock is too ill to drive and they have the reserve driver trackside yet decide just not to bother running. Smooth.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:23

How on earth did that fat mess Corden fit in an F1 car? :confused:



Anyway back on topic - it's become so apparent that Marussia hiring a female driver was nothing more than a cheap gimmick. Glock is too ill to drive and they have the reserve driver trackside yet decide just not to bother running. Smooth.


Well, cheaper than her crashing the car :lol:

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:29

Would the regulations allow a substitute driver at this point? Gary Paffett (from the McLaren connection) as well as former drivers Lucas Di Grassi and Jerome D'ambrosio would be suitable drop ins.

Also Jaime Alguersuari is presumably in Valencia for BBC radio.

Edited by onewingedangel, 23 June 2012 - 12:32.


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:31

If the car was better, I wonder if Glock would have felt better.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 13:22

Would the regulations allow a substitute driver at this point?


Not for de Villota at least. I seem to remember that a driver have to participate in at least one free-practice (of course there are exceptions. Like Hispania with Chandhok etc.). But I don't think she'd be allowed to race.

#397 BRG

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 21:33

Not for de Villota at least. I seem to remember that a driver have to participate in at least one free-practice (of course there are exceptions. Like Hispania with Chandhok etc.). But I don't think she'd be allowed to race.

How does she qualify for a superlicence? Has she done the requisite number of testing hours? Surely not?

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 21:59

How does she qualify for a superlicence? Has she done the requisite number of testing hours? Surely not?

After qualy it is impossible to bring another driver, in Suzuka 2009 Kobayashi was not allowed to start despite making 2 practise sessions

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:51

Any word on whether María de Villota Comb will drive in place of Timo Glock today?

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 10:01

Any word on whether María de Villota Comb will drive in place of Timo Glock today?


No. You cannot qualify without taking part in practice & she has no super licence (thank God)