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#1351 kayemod

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 17:50

I hope Ron Howard isn't going to blot his copybook with this and make it TOO sensationalist. There's potential for it to be a great movie, but there's also the other way....


From what we've seen already I fear the very worst, but I'd love to be proved wrong.

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#1352 BRG

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 18:32

From what we've seen already I fear the very worst, but I'd love to be proved wrong.

It's a one minute 53 seconds trailer, for a film probably 90 minutes long. Those are probably the most sensational or spectacular bits of the film - that's the usual trick with film trailers.

#1353 Hamish Robson

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 19:28

I really hope you're (and suspect you are) right BRG. I think we should remember what a superb job Howard did with Apollo 13 (again not strictly accurate but a great film) and look forward to seeing this in September.

#1354 Emery0323

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 19:30

It's a one minute 53 seconds trailer, for a film probably 90 minutes long. Those are probably the most sensational or spectacular bits of the film - that's the usual trick with film trailers.


I really hope the full-length film doesn't rely on the trendy and tiresome technique of ultra-quick cuts.

Splicing short 1/2 second clips together is understandable on the trailer, I guess, but I wouldn't put it past the film editors to do that on the full-length film as well.

Flashing ultra-short clips in rapid succession isn't a substitute for creating dynamic action on-screen. It just induces seizures in the audience.

#1355 simonlewisbooks

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 20:02

Lets all wait and see chaps. :cool:
However it looks in a trailer it might just as easily be a multi-Oscar winner which we, on TNF, all think is crap, as a commercial dud that critics pan but we all love! Or that rarest of things an all round bloody good film.

Such is the way with movies.

Only time will tell. :wave:


#1356 funformula

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 20:23

I know events are twisted,adjusted etc to tell a longer story in a shorter way, but I am at odds with the with a John Day sponsored March flying through the air, what's that about then?

Looks really rather good though!


Stuck crashing with Andretti at Monza while battling for 9th place.
Don´t know if Stuck was that high in the air but at least they crashed into each other.

#1357 LittleChris

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 20:35

Stuck crashing with Andretti at Monza while battling for 9th place.
Don´t know if Stuck was that high in the air but at least they crashed into each other.


Good thing Ronnie following and wearing his alternative helmet managed to miss them before going on to victory then :rotfl:

Edit - Actually the angle of the Stuck March reminds me of some of the photos taken of cars flying at the Scheckter chicane put into the middle of the Esses at Watkins Glen at that time

Edited by LittleChris, 08 April 2013 - 20:37.


#1358 funformula

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 20:55

Good thing Ronnie following and wearing his alternative helmet managed to miss them before going on to victory then :rotfl:


Don´t want to sound too much like an anorak here, but I guess the "First National" sponsored car in the background is Watson in his Penske. He and Pryce were behind Andretti and Stuck.
The Penske and the March were very similar in appearance.

#1359 LittleChris

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 21:52

Don´t want to sound too much like an anorak here, but I guess the "First National" sponsored car in the background is Watson in his Penske. He and Pryce were behind Andretti and Stuck.
The Penske and the March were very similar in appearance.



Going to try to out-anorak you funformula !! Didn't the Penske run with the shovel nose that year rather than the bulbous March type one ?

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#1360 jj2728

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 22:22

Well, I for one am impressed and looking forward to it. Daniel Bruhl looks and sounds like Niki. Hemsworth may not be all that bad and the Ferrari leaping at Flugplatz gave me a shiver. Sure, I'm an anorak and was at Paul Ricard, Monza and the Glen in '76, but me thinks Ron Howard's effort will satisfy most of us.....

#1361 arttidesco

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 23:03

Going to try to out-anorak you funformula !! Didn't the Penske run with the shovel nose that year rather than the bulbous March type one ?


John Watson was running the chisel nose PC4 at Monza in 1976, fresh off a victory in Austria IIRC.

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Above is a pic of the mock up PC3 the Rush crew used to represent Wattie in the '76 Spanish GP, shot at Snetterton last year, the First National car at 1m 40 in the trailer appears to be a 761 with a more bulbous nose than the sharper 751 derived Penske PC3 nose, but with what looks like Watson's helmet, so perhaps a composite of Watson at the wheel of Petersons March was the intention.

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#1362 AllTwelve

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 23:45

I like to hear the cars. I hope they don't ruin it with some corny music like they did in "Le Mans" - the first lap was fantastic hearing the cars, then once the lead Porsche crosses the line to begin the second lap that dreadful music comes in :well:

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#1363 fer312t

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 00:59

I like to hear the cars. I hope they don't ruin it with some corny music like they did in "Le Mans" - the first lap was fantastic hearing the cars, then once the lead Porsche crosses the line to begin the second lap that dreadful music comes in :well:

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Funny, I disagree about that scene entirely. I want to hear the v and flat 12s too...but the music kicking in that particular point just 'fits' - is all about completing the first lap, and then beginning to settle into the rhythm of the race. Generally I think Michel Legrand's LeMans soundtrack is particularly excellent - atmospheric and unobtrusive - the majority of racing sequences are sans music.

#1364 Doug Nye

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 17:03

A friend who attended a recent viewing of this production considers that as The Niki Lauda Story it is terrific! He is most impressed by the actor who played Lauda - less impressed by the depiction of Hunt. Overall he reckons it's a curate's egg, but much better than might have been predicted. Well done then, Ron.

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#1365 Paul Newby

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:23

Watching the trailer I most intrigued to see Niki Lauda thrashing a Lancia 2000. On closer inspection it wasn't even a faster 2000IE. :rolleyes:

I'm assuming that Lauda must have been given one to drive in period? I suppose he didn't get into an Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV until he raced for Brabham.



#1366 275 GTB-4

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:41

Watching the trailer I most intrigued to see Niki Lauda thrashing a Lancia 2000. On closer inspection it wasn't even a faster 2000IE. :rolleyes:

I'm assuming that Lauda must have been given one to drive in period? I suppose he didn't get into an Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV until he raced for Brabham.


Niki Lauda's first racing success was behind the wheel of a Mini Cooper in a hillclimb.....he would often have a brick waiting for him when he landed a private jet somewhere/anywhere at the peak of his carrera...ergh career :wave:

#1367 arttidesco

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:44

Watching the trailer I most intrigued to see Niki Lauda thrashing a Lancia 2000. On closer inspection it wasn't even a faster 2000IE. :rolleyes:

I'm assuming that Lauda must have been given one to drive in period? I suppose he didn't get into an Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV until he raced for Brabham.


Why would he ALFA Romeo were not be part of the FIAT Empire until 1986.



#1368 kayemod

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:54

Watching the trailer I most intrigued to see Niki Lauda thrashing a Lancia 2000. On closer inspection it wasn't even a faster 2000IE. :rolleyes:


Joan Baez sang a song about Lancias, the title was Diamonds and Rust.


#1369 275 GTB-4

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:11

Joan Baez sang a song about Lancias, the title was Diamonds and Rust.


and she also drilled the main song in Silent Running....



http://www.imdb.com/...ref_=tt_trv_snd

Edited by 275 GTB-4, 10 April 2013 - 11:13.


#1370 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:02

On another note, I believe this will be a movie that will not see the release on DVD to quickly after the first showing. At least I wish it all the best as such. But I hope there will be great initiatives to make a DVD (set) with many unseen footage as well as historic material. Could be a gem if done right.

#1371 nmansellfan

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:07

Why would he ALFA Romeo were not be part of the FIAT Empire until 1986.


I might be misreading your post, but maybe because Alfa were supplying engines to Brabham when he was there? But if we are talking about '76, he drove (as a few other drivers did) a MB 300SEL 6.9 I think.

Edited by nmansellfan, 10 April 2013 - 12:07.


#1372 RTH

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:26

Aimed at a mass audience - a cliche packed 1.53s

http://www.youtube.c...p;v=05rzPnZ6lxw



#1373 Julian Roberts

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:42

But I hope there will be great initiatives to make a DVD (set) with many unseen footage as well as historic material. Could be a gem if done right.


Perhaps a 2nd disc with TNF commentary :)

#1374 Glengavel

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 13:27

Perhaps a 2nd disc with TNF commentary :)


Oh, that will be fun - 90-odd minutes of moaning nit-pickery.

But maybe it'll then become a cult film along the lines of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, where the audience shouts things during the film

"Wrong tyres! Wrong accent! Wrong colour scheme! That never happened!", etc., etc.;)


#1375 f1steveuk

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 13:59

" "RUSH", the three hour whingers cut" where do I put my name down?

#1376 arttidesco

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 14:13

" "RUSH", the three hour whingers cut" where do I put my name down?


On the wrong list... of course  ;)

#1377 mfd

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 14:14

" "RUSH", the three hour whingers cut" where do I put my name down?

No mate join me, there's a queue. I'm behind the guy in the AGV :wave:

Edit Oh no, it isn't

Edited by mfd, 10 April 2013 - 14:17.


#1378 f1steveuk

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 14:29

Only on TNF :)

Edited by f1steveuk, 10 April 2013 - 14:32.


#1379 Michael Ferner

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 19:28

A curate's egg, yes, that'll be it! Loved the sights and sounds of that clip, but hated the voice-overs... :rolleyes:

Hopefully, it'll be not as bad as "Grand Prix"!!

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#1380 chr1s

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 22:10

Watching the trailer I most intrigued to see Niki Lauda thrashing a Lancia 2000. On closer inspection it wasn't even a faster 2000IE. :rolleyes:

I'm assuming that Lauda must have been given one to drive in period? I suppose he didn't get into an Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV until he raced for Brabham.


I too was surprised to see the Lancia in the clip, as in the books I've read Lauda only ever mentions driving Fiat cars. In one book he refers to having a "compay car" (I think it was a 308) but it got on his nerves, so he never used it!

In "For the Record" Lauda lists his cars, as of October 1977 thus- 1961 Bentley, Jaguar XJ12, Alfetta GT, Fiat 132, Alfasud Kombi and a VW Beetle cabrio. So two Alfas while he was still driving for Ferrari!

#1381 Macca

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:15

35 pages of discussion in little over a year on a film that isn't even out yet......

and 35 pages over 12 years on a film that came out in 1966 :p


Only on TNF............



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#1382 Glengavel

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:19

35 pages of discussion in little over a year on a film that isn't even out yet......

and 35 pages over 12 years on a film that came out in 1966 :p


Only on TNF............



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Ah, but we didn't 'ave t'Internet in them days. We had to make do with a letter t'Times.


#1383 275 GTB-4

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:08

Ah, but we didn't 'ave t'Internet in them days. We had to make do with a letter t'Times.
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letter t'Times?.....looogsherry!!

#1384 Lutz G

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:18

I don't like trailers. Movies are often so much better than their trailers (Sideways anyone?) - but this trailer is not bad (for a trailer ;)) - love the images - so...

A friend who attended a recent viewing of this production considers that as The Niki Lauda Story it is terrific! He is most impressed by the actor who played Lauda


Daniel Brühl is a really great actor - just saw "Der ganz große Traum" . Brühl plays an English teacher (brings soccer from England to Germany in the late 19th Century) - and of couse in Inglourious Basterds... He is IMO perfect as Niki...


less impressed by the depiction of Hunt. Overall he reckons it's a curate's egg, but much better than might have been predicted. Well done then, Ron.


IMO Rush could be the first great F1 movie ever!
Superb racing footage in Frankenheimer's Grand Prix. Story? Right...;)

Edited by Lutz G, 11 April 2013 - 09:25.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:46

35 pages of discussion in little over a year on a film that isn't even out yet......

Paul M


In film executive speak I believe this thread would be known as a "Free Advanced Media Deliverable" :stoned:

#1386 f1steveuk

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:57

In film executive speak I believe this thread would be known as a "Free Advanced Media Deliverable" :stoned:


Although some would say the thread has been Creative Ranting And Protests ? I'll get my coat.... :drunk:

#1387 john winfield

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:57

Here's the cast list; apologies if someone has already posted the link. I would have read the whole thread but was laughing too much at Steve's suggestion of 'Rush - the three hour whingers' cut'.

http://www.imdb.com/...320/fullcredits

I'll be looking out for 'BRM mechanic' Jamie Sives and the all-purpose 'French Formula One driver' Xavier Laurent. Jamie de Courcey as 'Doc Postlethwaite'.......couldn't Roger de Courcey (his dad?) have been found a role, with Nookie playing the Hesketh Bear? I didn't realise Patrick Baladi was involved, nor Max Hastings! Surely not THE Max Hastings, although I bet he could do a good 'German Police Officer'. I wonder if 'Roddy Button' and 'Luca Naddeo' are related to their racing namesakes.

Good luck to Ron H and the gang, although I don't think it's quite my cup of tea. I would happily watch the Ferraris lead from start to finish at Zolder, while keeping my lap chart, noting in the programme odd incidents, and completing the results section with winner's speed to three decimal places. Great box office surely?

Rush 2 - untimed practice at selected Grand Prix plus support races for F3, Saloons and Historics. It's probably already in the can. Or the bin.

Edited by john winfield, 11 April 2013 - 10:59.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:12

Rush 2 - untimed practice at selected Grand Prix plus support races for F3, Saloons and Historics. It's probably already in the can. Or the bin.


:clap:

The credit list has Transportation Co-ordinator - Barrie Williams

Whizzo?


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#1389 Lutz G

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:20

Rush 2 - untimed practice at selected Grand Prix plus support races for F3, Saloons and Historics. It's probably already in the can. Or the bin.


Rush 2? I would go for 1982 ;)

Edited by Lutz G, 11 April 2013 - 12:21.


#1390 john winfield

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:35

Rush 2? I would go for 1982 ;)


1982 Lutz? What, the BRSCC Northern GTs? Pierce Brosnan as Tony Sugden.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 13:14

1982 Lutz? What, the BRSCC Northern GTs? Pierce Brosnan as Tony Sugden.


F1 - of course  ;) Daniel Brühl (still) as Niki. Who will play Wattie? *g*

Edited by Lutz G, 11 April 2013 - 13:15.


#1392 kayemod

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 13:42

F1 - of course ;) Daniel Brühl (still) as Niki. Who will play Wattie? *g*


Easy, Terence Stamp a dead ringer, assuming of course he could manage the accent.

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#1393 Glengavel

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 13:44

F1 - of course ;) Daniel Brühl (still) as Niki. Who will play Wattie? *g*


Let's see - John Watson -> Northern Irish -> James Nesbitt of course!

#1394 kayemod

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 13:46

Let's see - John Watson -> Northern Irish -> James Nesbitt of course!


Don't think so, we'd need an actor who's capable of playing someone other than himself.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 16:03

Here's the cast list; apologies if someone has already posted the link. I would have read the whole thread but was laughing too much at Steve's suggestion of 'Rush - the three hour whingers' cut'.

http://www.imdb.com/...320/fullcredits



These two credits in the cast seem to be an unfortunate juxtaposition:

"Cristian Solimeno ... Arturo Merzario
Nigel Genis ... Barbecue Chef"

I sincerely hope they don't appear in the same scene!
Although I think Lauda has made BBQ jokes regarding the accident (?)

And Brett Lunger doesn't appear? I'm disappointed, he is quite a nice fellow, from what I've read.




#1396 blackmme

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 16:55

Rush 2? I would go for 1982 ;)


Okay if we are allowed to dream a little then surely 84! :)

Rush 2
Bruhl can reprise Lauda this time up against the new generation, coming back out of retirement and the battles of trying to keep his airline in business fighting it out with Prost and then time winning at the last race unlike 76 after having to pull every racing trick in the book to keep in the fight. With a young upstart Senna making his presence felt for the first time....

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#1397 mfd

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 19:03

:clap: The credit list has Transportation Co-ordinator - Barrie Williams- Whizzo?


I doubt it. Strangely not one single name from the many drivers, teams or owners that the production relied on.

#1398 David McKinney

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 21:52

The credit list has Transportation Co-ordinator - Barrie Williams

Whizzo?

Whizz was in the car transportation business - though he's much older now :)

#1399 blackmme

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 07:36


A second trailer, this time specifically for the US.



Whetted my appetite even further, it looks absolutely superb.

Regards Mike

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#1400 275 GTB-4

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:16

A second trailer, this time specifically for the US.



Whetted my appetite even further, it looks absolutely superb.

Regards Mike


where were the sub-titles :confused: :stoned: