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#1 DanielRapley

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 16:02

An Allard J2 has recently surfaced. Missing bodywork, but with strong indications of race history.

It was found in pieces in a wood shed. Sold in the mid 70's as a parts car.

It has an old SCCA inspection sticker on the transmission tunnel. Remnants only and unfortunately unreadable.


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A complete set of photos can be seen at http://www.vintageca...-allard-j2.html

Here is what I belive to be true:
1. LHD
2. Steel Wheels
3. Red - Looks to have been originally Red.
4. Green - Later painted in a medium Green.
5. SCCA - There are remnants of an old SCCA sticker on an interior panel.
6. Long Island, NY - Was found on the East Coast in the mid 1970's.
7. Fire - It is believed that the body was lost in a fire. The old steering wheel is burnt.

I am keen to talk with anyone who has knowledge of a medium green Allard J2 that was either involved in a fire or SCCA racing previous to 1976.

Feel free to post, or to email me direct: Click here to email!

Thanks.
Daniel
Tel: 203-778-2601



Edited by DanielRapley, 09 January 2012 - 22:51.


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#2 David Birchall

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 16:23

Nice find-I don't think they came standard with Alfin drums-did they?

#3 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 07:15

At page 9 of this link, there is a picture of the start of the 1953 Watkins Glen Grand Prix:

http://www.fingerlak.../Automuseum.pdf

On the front row are #11, John Negley from Pennsylvania (Chrysler-Allard)(?), and George R. Harris III of Geneva, NY in his Allard J2. On the second row, looks like Delevan Lee from Michigan in his #57 Cadillac-Allard J2. Don't know if these are accounted for. Have you tried the Allard register?

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 07:01

Here is a link to photos of John Negley and his Allard J2X Le Mans at Cumberland in 1953:

http://www.nationalr...o...l&si=Negley

Sadly, he was killed later that year at Turner. Robert Wilder in his J2X Le Mans was killed earlier in the year at Bridgehampton. Wilder's earlier ex-Duntov Allard J2 is accounted for at this link:

http://www.conceptca.../Allard-J2.aspx

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 15:30

At page 9 of this link, there is a picture of the start of the 1953 Watkins Glen Grand Prix:

http://www.fingerlak.../Automuseum.pdf

On the front row are #11, John Negley from Pennsylvania (Chrysler-Allard)(?), and George R. Harris III of Geneva, NY in his Allard J2. On the second row, looks like Delevan Lee from Michigan in his #57 Cadillac-Allard J2. Don't know if these are accounted for. Have you tried the Allard register?

Vince H.


Develan Lee's Allard is definitely accounted for resident in the Sunshine State.

#6 DanielRapley

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 01:55

Nice find-I don't think they came standard with Alfin drums-did they?


thanks. The front two cars are not mine. Both are wire wheels. Mine is steel wheels.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 01:56

Here is a link to photos of John Negley and his Allard J2X Le Mans at Cumberland in 1953:

http://www.nationalr...o...l&si=Negley

Sadly, he was killed later that year at Turner. Robert Wilder in his J2X Le Mans was killed earlier in the year at Bridgehampton. Wilder's earlier ex-Duntov Allard J2 is accounted for at this link:

http://www.conceptca.../Allard-J2.aspx

Vince H.


Great photos. Didn't see my car amongst them.
Dan

#8 Allan Lupton

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:43

Nice find-I don't think they came standard with Alfin drums-did they?

thanks. The front two cars are not mine. Both are wire wheels. Mine is steel wheels.

I don't understand.
David's comment was after your initial posting and all the photos seem to be of the same car so which are the "front two cars"?
Anent AlFin drums, I expect the J2X had them (and the JR certainly did), so even if this is a normal J2, Allard could have supplied it with them, and other upgrades, if the customer specified 9and paid for) them. We are not thinking of a mass producer here.

Edited by Allan Lupton, 14 January 2012 - 08:44.


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:40

David's comment was after your initial posting and all the photos seem to be of the same car so which are the "front two cars"?


Maybe Daniel was responding to the photo link in post 3.

Vince H.


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 07:23

Here is a link to a model of the Allard raced by Joe Sabal of Coraopolis, Pennsylvania in 1951 and 1952...red, steel wheels...is that car accounted for?

http://www.mimodels....e335d9bd64db9b3

More Allard models here.

http://www.mimodels....7a8a70adcafec25

Here is an interesting link. Some great stuff from the late Allard racer Jean Davidson. However, it seems the Davidson car is accounted for...sold a few years ago:

http://www.allardreg...pdf-arch-71-87/

Vince H.

Edited by raceannouncer2003, 15 January 2012 - 07:23.


#11 USA Diligence

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:11

Daniel,

Did any of the digitized and searchable magazines assist you in this process?

Regards,

Chad Struer

Here is a link to a model of the Allard raced by Joe Sabal of Coraopolis, Pennsylvania in 1951 and 1952...red, steel wheels...is that car accounted for?

http://www.mimodels....e335d9bd64db9b3

More Allard models here.

http://www.mimodels....7a8a70adcafec25

Here is an interesting link. Some great stuff from the late Allard racer Jean Davidson. However, it seems the Davidson car is accounted for...sold a few years ago:

http://www.allardreg...pdf-arch-71-87/

Vince H.