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#1 Watkins74

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 17:35

For the last 4 or 5 days the forum has been really slow. I don't have this problem on any other web site.

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#2 Alfisti

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 19:18

For the last 4 or 5 days the forum has been really slow. I don't have this problem on any other web site.


Agreed, thought it was just me.

#3 Timstr11

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 19:57

Same here.

#4 Alfisti

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 21:28

I think it's been fixed, lightening fast suddenly.

#5 Buttoneer

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:15

Nope, it's still slow.

#6 Option1

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 14:57

Still slowwwwwwwww.........

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#7 condor

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 15:22

Seems OK to me :) Though I am UK based :p

#8 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 15:25

It was a little slow loading yesterday but now it's back to full speed for me.

#9 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 15:52

it's on and off, sometimes works fine like any other forum, then other times it's click and wait and hope it's not an IPS error, at the moment its that hit and miss phase.

#10 panzani

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 16:08

It is bloody is slow here as well -- unlike any other fora -- for at least a week or so. And the IPS errors arise sometimes as well.

#11 sharo

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 22:35

I thought it's only me.
ATM is normal.

#12 steferrari

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:19

it's on and off, sometimes works fine like any other forum, then other times it's click and wait and hope it's not an IPS error, at the moment its that hit and miss phase.


Same here.

#13 Tony Mandara

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:06

Slow?! :eek:

Why pass up a perfect opportunity to use the word 'Lethargic"? 2 minutes of loading to then get an IPS error!

:well:



#14 steferrari

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:15

Never saw this problems in Autosport forum before, i hope it will be fixed soon.
It's almost unusable actually. :|

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:08

Totally unusable! The BB's have gotten progressively worse over the last week or so, yesterday, it took a number of hours to get on and today is even worse. Come on Autosport, you have known for many months that there has been a certain instability which has never been fully addressed. If the server is too busy, as I'm constantly told, I dread to think what the situation will be next week for the first tests. Please, please, let's have a permanent fix.
What a bloody frustrating morning, with this and the equally unusable McLaren site. :mad:

#16 B Squared

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 13:19

It took me over one half hour for one post to register in TNF this morning. The system has been painfully slow for the last couple of weeks at my end too.

#17 ForeverF1

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 15:46

I fear that the database has exceeded (within the IP Software) manageable proportions and this, if, to keep said database coherent, is how the future will be. :cry:

#18 primer

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 16:01

The issue is intermittent, so until some time ago I had no idea why everyone was complaining. But I have also noticed some slowness lately.

I fear that the database has exceeded (within the IP Software) manageable proportions and this, if, to keep said database coherent, is how the future will be. :cry:

You comedian.

In case you are not joking....no, database size cannot cause such performance issues. And a php application like IPB shouldn't really care for the size of database. Such intermittent slowness is usually due to fragmentation of cache (local or global, whichever you are using), so just increase the size of your APC or memcache (as the case may be) and all should be well.

Database size is ireelevant since at any given time less than a few megabytes worth of threads need to be cached to gurantee good performance. And even mysql can handle hundreds of gigabyte in size, I am assuming Autosport forum is not more than 250-300 GB at worst. Unless you are stuck with some outdated hardware and software stack, database size should not be an issue at all. WTF.

Edited by primer, 01 February 2012 - 16:04.


#19 ForeverF1

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 16:09

The issue is intermittent, so until some time ago I had no idea why everyone was complaining. But I have also noticed some slowness lately.


You comedian.

In case you are not joking....no, database size cannot cause such performance issues. And a php application like IPB shouldn't really care for the size of database. Such intermittent slowness is usually due to fragmentation of cache (local or global, whichever you are using), so just increase the size of your APC or memcache (as the case may be) and all should be well.

Database size is ireelevant since at any given time less than a few megabytes worth of threads need to be cached to gurantee good performance. And even mysql can handle hundreds of gigabyte in size, I am assuming Autosport forum is not more than 250-300 GB at worst. Unless you are stuck with some outdated hardware and software stack, database size should not be an issue at all. WTF.


Oh dear. Such knowledge. It is true what they say, that a 'little knowledge is dangerous'

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#20 Alfisti

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 16:25

Dog slow again, weird it comes and goes.

#21 primer

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 16:27

Oh dear. Such knowledge. It is true what they say, that a 'little knowledge is dangerous'


Keep smarting. :lol: Database size cannot cause any performance issues on read dominated applications like a bulletin board. You will have bottlenecks with amount of RAM or processing power (to handle the large number of php process), obstacles which are easily scaled.

Edited by primer, 01 February 2012 - 16:28.


#22 ForeverF1

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 16:30

Keep smarting. :lol: Database size cannot cause any performance issues on read dominated applications like a bulletin board. You will have bottlenecks with amount of RAM or processing power (to handle the large number of php process), obstacles which are easily scaled.


What do you know about how this forums database is handled? Take a moment to think about indexing. ;)

EDIT: But, what do I know, I am just a senile old codger. :lol:

#23 KirilVarbanov

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:05

What do you know about how this forums database is handled? Take a moment to think about indexing.;)

EDIT: But, what do I know, I am just a senile old codger. :lol:

Certainly, we don't know, we can only assume that such large DB is handled by either Oracle or some custom DB type. No disrespect to the rest of the soldiers, but I've seen them all behaving badly when going over certain numbers in a distributed environment.

Since it's indexing - do you guys need more indexes or you are indexing too much? Is there anything we can help with? I'm sure there are good technical people around.
On the other hand, IPS have recently revealed a new version with some performance enhancements.

HTH and best regards.

#24 Allan Lupton

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:14

For some reason, once I've got the forum index up, the server is too busy to let me access any other thread than this.


#25 Vitesse2

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 13:51

For some reason, once I've got the forum index up, the server is too busy to let me access any other thread than this.

I think RC was taking quite a hammering because of the Ferrari launch, Allan. The whole forum crashed several times on me today and I also got the "essential maintenance" screen for about 40 minutes, which was turning up yesterday about midnight GMT as well. I was out on Wednesday, but I suspect the same thing happened with the McLaren launch.

#26 Tony Mandara

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:40

Same now with the winter testing. :well:

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 14:16

...and this, if, to keep said database coherent, is how the future will be. :cry:

Really? That being the case, I fear that many will seek alternatives. The death throes of Atlas?
Absolutely impossible today and no explanation whatsoever.


#28 Tony Mandara

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:17

Here we go again.....

3 "IPS driver errors" and 3 "not logged in" messages just to get here from the home page!!

...and I haven't even clicked 'submit' yet! :well:

#29 Vitesse2

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 13:10

...and I haven't even clicked 'submit' yet! :well:

Yes you have :p

#30 kar

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 13:57

If it is mysql that is creaking under the size of tables, partitioning might be the solution. Partition on post date and while searches will still be dog slow, general everyday performance should get a boost as mysql doesn't need to read such huge indices on every request.

http://dev.mysql.com...rtitioning.html

Primer - I would read the above link particularly, as you're demonstrating a terribly crude understanding of the many variables involved in RDBMS performance.

Edited by kar, 21 February 2012 - 14:01.


#31 Tony Mandara

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 13:57

Yes you have :p


Yeah! Had to do it twice though..... :evil:

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