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[arttidesco]

Go Chipolopolo !

I didn't start it some one, possibly a well respected TNFer, at Private Ear did !

Apologies it wont happen again

A BRM 201 with six wheels that would be a mighty fine thing to see

[Charlieman]

Possibly off topic: I have never understood the psychology or dynamics of the BRM teams/management. It never comes across in general F1 histories. But it is undeniable that BRM was an unusual series of organisations that could only win races when they acted conservatively. They behaved bizarrely so that they wouldn't win as acts of masochism?

And more seriously, can anyone other than DCN recommend Doug Nye's BRM books? Do they explain BRM dysfunctionality?

[Doug Nye]

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And more seriously, can anyone other than DCN recommend Doug Nye's BRM books? Do they explain BRM dysfunctionality?
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Oh perlease... I would very, very seldom recommend one of my books.

[Roger Clark]

Possibly off topic: I have never understood the psychology or dynamics of the BRM teams/management. It never comes across in general F1 histories. But it is undeniable that BRM was an unusual series of organisations that could only win races when they acted conservatively. They behaved bizarrely so that they wouldn't win as acts of masochism?

And more seriously, can anyone other than DCN recommend Doug Nye's BRM books? Do they explain BRM dysfunctionality?

Yes, without question.

[arttidesco]

I've only just finished reading my first book penned by the aforementioned Mr Nye, and from my position near the bottom of the pit of ignorance ( ) I can only say that if any of his books are only half as good as Motor Racing Mavericks you will find them easy to read and probably learn more from each page than you can possibly remember. I'd take the the sign that DCN has penned a volume as akin to a quality kite mark seal of approval and consider any expense incurred as an even better investment. Usual disclaimers apply

PS thanks to Mr Tim Murray for lending me the aforementioned volume

Edited by arttidesco, 10 February 2012 - 00:50.

[Vitesse2]

Ralph - I've owned that book for damn near forty years and it was probably that one more than any other that really ignited the spark in me that makes me seek out the odd, bizarre, obscure and downright mysterious corners of motor racing history. I still refer to it constantly because, even after all that time, it's just about the definitive short history of every car it describes.

So, you see, Doug - IT'S ALL YOUR BLOODY FAULT!

[arttidesco]

Richard I know what you mean about whetting your appetite for the mysterious and referring to it constantly, I am going to try John Bolsters books on Specials next, it's going to be hard to give Motor Racing Mavericks back

It's alright Doug I don't blame you, WB set me on the path for the mysterious, you simply reignited the flame

[Doug Nye]

Aaah yes,reignited... As Eva Vestoff whispered in my ear last Friday night....

Sorry chaps - but you are too kind.

Edited by Doug Nye, 10 February 2012 - 13:06.

[arttidesco]

Aaah yes,reignited... As Eva Vestoff whispered in my ear last Friday night....

Lucky bugger, but well deserved

[cheapracer]

Roy Lane in the March six-wheeler definitely won the first round of the 1979 RAC British Hillclimb Championship at Wiscombe Park on 1st April.

Was I the only one to notice the irony of turning up with a six wheeler to an event on April 1st ......

Oi you lot! First rule of TNF, no mention of football (whatever that is...)

It's ok, they are talking about soccer not football.

I'd take the the sign that DCN has penned a volume as akin to a quality kite mark seal of approval and consider any expense incurred as an even better investment.

So you weren't deNyed 'ey .....

[alansart]

I am going to try John Bolsters books on Specials next....

Nothing to do with 6 wheel BRM's - Around 1974 I wrote to John Bolster asking for information on long life cars which was part of a project I was doing at College. I got this long very detailed letter back giving me intro's to various people, including Porsche in Stuttgart, who then responded with piles of info. Much respect for another master scribe

[larryd]

Aaah yes,reignited... As Eva Vestoff whispered in my ear last Friday night....

Sorry chaps - but you are too kind.

Don:

Volume 4 please ??

[Doug Nye]

Nothing to do with 6 wheel BRM's - Around 1974 I wrote to John Bolster asking for information on long life cars which was part of a project I was doing at College. I got this long very detailed letter back giving me intro's to various people, including Porsche in Stuttgart, who then responded with piles of info. Much respect for another master scribe

if you caught John on a good day - as you obviously did - he could be very helpful. Almost as helpful as Don.

DCN

[RS2000]

Was I the only one to notice the irony of turning up with a six wheeler to an event on April 1st ......

Extra driven wheels at Wiscombe on April 1st sounds like a very sensible idea. Much as it would have been for the many later years when the BHC round was the last weekend of April...

[f1steveuk]

If 008 had been built to design, with the fan system, it had the potential to be a very very good car indeed!

[arttidesco]

In the continuing absence of a BRM with 6 wheels here is one with four legs that made my jaw drop, is either of these two the elusive Eva Vestoff that Doug was referring to earlier I wonder ?

[Doug Nye]

Just to make this quite clear - Eva Vestoff was the girlfriend of Russian ballet dancer Yaputya Leflegin, working with the choreographer Serge Trousewitz.

Surely some of you recall this old stuff - circa 1967-68 I should think...

DCN

[arttidesco]

Surely some of you recall this old stuff - circa 1967-68 I should think...

DCN

I was still getting to grips with the soup dragon and his friends the Clangers around that time