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#1 Joe Fan

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 20:50

There is a new auto musuem opening up in Kansas City this year. This would be a great place to display cars Gregory drove. If anyone knows the wherabouts to any of Gregory's racing or personal cars in the US, please let me know. I do know that the 1965 Le Mans winning Ferrari is at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway museum. A friend of mine is a Collections Director at the KC Auto Musuem and he is going to try to get the Le mans winning Ferrari on loan at some point.

Hope all the TNFers have been doing well.


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#2 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 23:13

We've missed you, Joe...

I do hope you have success with your pursuit, it's a nice tribute to follow on from your past efforts to have him recognised.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:06

I understand David Rubin in New York has Jaguar C type XKC022. Terry Larson might be able to put you in touch. Here is a link to Terry's website:

http://terrylarson.net/

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 08:05

Does Curtis Gordinier in Virginia have Ferrari 375 MM 0370AM?

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#5 David McKinney

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:54

Last I heard it was with the Gläsel family in Germany, but that was ten years ago

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 16:25

It is listed on the Barchetta site as being owned by "G Trust, Virginia, USA" as of July, 2005. I would assume the 'G' is for Gordinier.
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#7 RobertE

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 22:01

Hello, chap. The last time I looked, JD Classics in Essex were restoring the Ecurie Ecosse Lister-Jaguar which Masten drove at Spa in May 1958. This was a few years ago, but I'm sure they would put you in touch.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 22:28

... the Ecurie Ecosse Lister-Jaguar which Masten drove at Spa in May 1958

... and which he wrote off at Silverstone a few weeks later :)


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 17:49

Thought you'd find this interesting:

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 17:51

Thought you'd find this interesting:

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3a68d9f0b0


Yes I know Joe Fan is the author

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 19:16

£215!!!! :eek: :eek:

but seeing as the seller believes the book is about Marston Gregory and the author Michael J Fox, one does wonder whether he really has any idea what he's talking about. :lol:

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 19:45

This book was difficult to find when new. I got a copy from the author or publisher via the web, but it took a little detective work. There are three copies currently on Amazon (US) at $400 each! Whatever, it's a good read, certainly a book that was needed.

Frank

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 19:55

Interesting. I had no problem getting my copy here in the UK and had no idea that it had such rarity value. Another one to warn my executors about. As you say, it's a fine book.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 22:24

OK, here’s a start

1952
Allard J2 – nothing known since

1953
Ferrari 340A 0206A (sports) – written off 1954
Jaguar C-type XKC015 (sports) – unknown after UK 1991
Jaguar C-type XKC022 (sports) – unknown after USA 1991*
*but see earlier posts

1954
Ferrari 340A 0206A (sports) – see above
Ferrari 375MM 0370AM (sports) –Gläsel, Germany 2000*
Ferrari 500 Mondial 0454MD/Bob Said (sports) – in UK 2000
Ferrari 735 Monza 0462M/Joe Kelly (sports) – Roberto Crippa 2000
*but see earlier posts

1955
Ferrari 750 Monza 0504M/Mike Sparken (sports) – Tom Walduck, UK 2003
Ferrari 750 Monza 0554M (sports) – in Switzerland 2000
Maserati 300S 3058/Tony Parravano (sports) – in France 2000

1956
Ferrari 750 Monza 0502M/Bill Doheny (sports) – in Florida 2001
Ferrari 750 Monza 0504M (sports) – see above
Ferrari 857 Monza 0588M/Tony Parravano (sports) – existed 2000
Ferrari 500TR 0652MDTR/Scuderia Buell (sports) – in USA 1997
Maserati 300S 3058/Tony Parravano (sports) – see above

1957
Cooper-Climax T43 F2-26-47/C T Atkins (F2) – unknown after April 1958
Maserati 250F (2502)/2511/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – unknown after Brazil 1965
Maserati 250F (2507/2523)/2522/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – José Albuquerque, Portugal
Ferrari 290MM 0626/Scuderia Buell (sports) – existed 2000
Ferrari 500TR 0652MDTR/Scuderia Buell (sports) – see above
Ferrari 315S 0656/works (sports) – existed 2000
Ferrari 250TR 0666TR/works (sports) – unknown since California 1980
Ferrari 250TR 0704TR/works (sports) – in UK 2005
Jaguar D-type KXD601/Duncan Hamilton (sports) – in USA c2000
Maserati 450S 4508/Temple Buell (sports) – unknown after USA 1991

1958
Maserati 250F (2502)/2511/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – see above
Maserati 250F 2514/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – B C Ecclestone
Maserati 250F 2533/Scuderia Buell (F1) – Thomas Bscher, Germany
Maserati 250F 2534/Scuderia Buell (F1) – Jos Koster, Netherlands
Ferrari 410 0598CM/John Edgar (sports) – in Switzerland c2000
Ferrari 335S 0674/NART (sports) – in France c2000
Jaguar D-type XKD603/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – in UK c2000
Lister-Jaguar BHL104/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – written off*
Maserati 450S 4508/Temple Buell (sports) – see above
*two cars built from remains

1959
Cooper-Climax T45 F2-2-58/Alan Brown (F2) – in UK 2002
Cooper-Climax T45 F2-17-58/Alan Brown (F2) – unknown after UK 1964
Cooper-Climax T51 F2-23-58/works (F1) – possibly Rod Jolley, UK
Cooper-Climax T51 F2-4-59/works (F1) – possibly John Clark, UK
Cooper-Climax T51 F2-7-59/works (F1) – unknown after February 1960
Jaguar D-type XKD603/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – see above
Lister-Jaguar BHL109/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – written off*
*two cars built from remains

1960
Behra-Porsche/Camoradi USA (F2) – Collier Museum, Florida
Cooper-Maserati T51 F2-12-59/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – believed destroyed 1962
Maserati T61 2451/Camoradi USA (sports) - exists
Maserati T61 2464/Camoradi USA (sports) – Irvine Laidlaw, UK

1961
Cooper-Climax T53/Camoradi USA (F1) – Doug Mockett, USA
Lotus-Climax 18 916/BRP (IC) – André Wanty, Belgium
Lotus-Climax 18 917/BRP (F1) – Dawson-Damer estate, Australia
Lotus-Climax 18 918/BRP (F1) – burnt out in garage fire – a reconstruction exists
Maserati T61 2472/Camoradi USA (sports) - exists
Maserati T63 006/Camoradi USA (sports) – in Europe 2003
Porsche RS61 047/works (sports) – nothing known since

1962
Lotus-Climax 18 917/BRP (F1) – see above
Lotus-Climax 24 942/BRP (F1) – Michel Wanty, Belgium 1998
Lotus-Climax 24 945/BRP (F1) – not seen since USA 1988
Ferrari 330TR/LM 0808/works (sports) – in France c2000
Ferrari 250GTO 3505/BRP (GT) – in UK c2000
Lotus 19/BRP (sports) – nothing known since
Maserati T61 2472/Camoradi USA (sports) – see above

1963
Lotus-Climax 24 942/BRP (F1) – see above
Lotus-BRM 24 944/BRP (F1) – Roy Walzer, USA 2003
Lotus-BRM 24 ‘P1’/Tim Parnell (F1) – Hall & Hall UK 2005
De Tomaso F1-801/Scuderia de Tomaso (F1) – unknown since
Ferrari 250GTO 4713/NART (GT) – in California c2000

1964
BRM P578 (5783)/5784/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – Frank Sytner UK 2006
Shelby Cobra – nothing known since

1965
BRM P578 5781/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – unknown after USA 2001
BRM P578 (5783)/5784/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – see above
Lola-Climax Mk4/Reg Parnell RT (Tasman) – unknown since
Ferrari 250LM 5893/NART (sports) – nothing known since 1970

1966
Ferrari 365P2/3 0838/NART (sports) – nothing after USA 1995
Ford GT40 1010/Essex Wire (sports) – Adrian Newey, UK, 2004
McLaren M1B (sports) – Julian Bronson, UK

1967

1968
Ferrari 250LM 5893/NART (sports) – see above
Ferrari 250LM 8165/David Piper (sports) – with Piper c2000

1969
Lola T70 Mk3B SL76-151/Scuderia Filipinetti (sports) – in Europe 2001
Porsche 908/Richard Brostrom (sports) – nothing known since
Porsche 908/2 010/Richard Brostrom (sports) – in USA 2004

1970
Alfa Romeo 33-3/Autodelta (sports) – nothing known since

1971
Ferrari 512S 1006/NART (sports) – in USA 2000
Ferrari 512M 1014/Gregg Young (sports) – in France 2001

E & OE

Various marque specialists (and websites) will be able to update this – I haven’t bothered keeping my records up-to-date for some years

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:10

Ferrari 750 Monza 0554M (sports) – in Switzerland 2000 - in Mexico as of 2007?, Junco de la Vega

1956
Ferrari 750 Monza 0502M/Bill Doheny (sports) – in Florida 2001 - apparently in Germany now
Ferrari 857 Monza 0588M/Tony Parravano (sports) – existed 2000 - now owned and restored by DK Engineering in England. Interesting stuff at these links:

http://www.dkeng.co....rrari_857S.html


Ferrari 500TR 0652MDTR/Scuderia Buell (sports) – in USA 1997 - apparently in Holland now?

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 13:02

OK, here’s a start

1952
Allard J2 – nothing known since

1953
Ferrari 340A 0206A (sports) – written off 1954
Jaguar C-type XKC015 (sports) – unknown after UK 1991
Jaguar C-type XKC022 (sports) – unknown after USA 1991*
*but see earlier posts

1954
Ferrari 340A 0206A (sports) – see above
Ferrari 375MM 0370AM (sports) –Gläsel, Germany 2000*
Ferrari 500 Mondial 0454MD/Bob Said (sports) – in UK 2000
Ferrari 735 Monza 0462M/Joe Kelly (sports) – Roberto Crippa 2000
*but see earlier posts

1955
Ferrari 750 Monza 0504M/Mike Sparken (sports) – Tom Walduck, UK 2003
Ferrari 750 Monza 0554M (sports) – in Switzerland 2000
Maserati 300S 3058/Tony Parravano (sports) – in France 2000

1956
Ferrari 750 Monza 0502M/Bill Doheny (sports) – in Florida 2001
Ferrari 750 Monza 0504M (sports) – see above
Ferrari 857 Monza 0588M/Tony Parravano (sports) – existed 2000
Ferrari 500TR 0652MDTR/Scuderia Buell (sports) – in USA 1997
Maserati 300S 3058/Tony Parravano (sports) – see above

1957
Cooper-Climax T43 F2-26-47/C T Atkins (F2) – unknown after April 1958
Maserati 250F (2502)/2511/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – unknown after Brazil 1965
Maserati 250F (2507/2523)/2522/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – José Albuquerque, Portugal
Ferrari 290MM 0626/Scuderia Buell (sports) – existed 2000
Ferrari 500TR 0652MDTR/Scuderia Buell (sports) – see above
Ferrari 315S 0656/works (sports) – existed 2000
Ferrari 250TR 0666TR/works (sports) – unknown since California 1980
Ferrari 250TR 0704TR/works (sports) – in UK 2005
Jaguar D-type KXD601/Duncan Hamilton (sports) – in USA c2000
Maserati 450S 4508/Temple Buell (sports) – unknown after USA 1991

1958
Maserati 250F (2502)/2511/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – see above
Maserati 250F 2514/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – B C Ecclestone
Maserati 250F 2533/Scuderia Buell (F1) – Thomas Bscher, Germany
Maserati 250F 2534/Scuderia Buell (F1) – Jos Koster, Netherlands
Ferrari 410 0598CM/John Edgar (sports) – in Switzerland c2000
Ferrari 335S 0674/NART (sports) – in France c2000
Jaguar D-type XKD603/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – in UK c2000
Lister-Jaguar BHL104/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – written off*
Maserati 450S 4508/Temple Buell (sports) – see above
*two cars built from remains

1959
Cooper-Climax T45 F2-2-58/Alan Brown (F2) – in UK 2002
Cooper-Climax T45 F2-17-58/Alan Brown (F2) – unknown after UK 1964
Cooper-Climax T51 F2-23-58/works (F1) – possibly Rod Jolley, UK
Cooper-Climax T51 F2-4-59/works (F1) – possibly John Clark, UK
Cooper-Climax T51 F2-7-59/works (F1) – unknown after February 1960
Jaguar D-type XKD603/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – see above
Lister-Jaguar BHL109/Ecurie Ecosse (sports) – written off*
*two cars built from remains

1960
Behra-Porsche/Camoradi USA (F2) – Collier Museum, Florida
Cooper-Maserati T51 F2-12-59/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – believed destroyed 1962
Maserati T61 2451/Camoradi USA (sports) - exists
Maserati T61 2464/Camoradi USA (sports) – Irvine Laidlaw, UK

1961
Cooper-Climax T53/Camoradi USA (F1) – Doug Mockett, USA
Lotus-Climax 18 916/BRP (IC) – André Wanty, Belgium
Lotus-Climax 18 917/BRP (F1) – Dawson-Damer estate, Australia
Lotus-Climax 18 918/BRP (F1) – burnt out in garage fire – a reconstruction exists
Maserati T61 2472/Camoradi USA (sports) - exists
Maserati T63 006/Camoradi USA (sports) – in Europe 2003
Porsche RS61 047/works (sports) – nothing known since

1962
Lotus-Climax 18 917/BRP (F1) – see above
Lotus-Climax 24 942/BRP (F1) – Michel Wanty, Belgium 1998
Lotus-Climax 24 945/BRP (F1) – not seen since USA 1988
Ferrari 330TR/LM 0808/works (sports) – in France c2000
Ferrari 250GTO 3505/BRP (GT) – in UK c2000
Lotus 19/BRP (sports) – nothing known since
Maserati T61 2472/Camoradi USA (sports) – see above

1963
Lotus-Climax 24 942/BRP (F1) – see above
Lotus-BRM 24 944/BRP (F1) – Roy Walzer, USA 2003
Lotus-BRM 24 ‘P1’/Tim Parnell (F1) – Hall & Hall UK 2005
De Tomaso F1-801/Scuderia de Tomaso (F1) – unknown since
Ferrari 250GTO 4713/NART (GT) – in California c2000

1964
BRM P578 (5783)/5784/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – Frank Sytner UK 2006
Shelby Cobra – nothing known since

1965
BRM P578 5781/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – unknown after USA 2001
BRM P578 (5783)/5784/Scuderia Centro-Sud (F1) – see above
Lola-Climax Mk4/Reg Parnell RT (Tasman) – unknown since
Ferrari 250LM 5893/NART (sports) – nothing known since 1970

1966
Ferrari 365P2/3 0838/NART (sports) – nothing after USA 1995
Ford GT40 1010/Essex Wire (sports) – Adrian Newey, UK, 2004
McLaren M1B (sports) – Julian Bronson, UK

1967

1968
Ferrari 250LM 5893/NART (sports) – see above
Ferrari 250LM 8165/David Piper (sports) – with Piper c2000

1969
Lola T70 Mk3B SL76-151/Scuderia Filipinetti (sports) – in Europe 2001
Porsche 908/Richard Brostrom (sports) – nothing known since
Porsche 908/2 010/Richard Brostrom (sports) – in USA 2004

1970
Alfa Romeo 33-3/Autodelta (sports) – nothing known since

1971
Ferrari 512S 1006/NART (sports) – in USA 2000
Ferrari 512M 1014/Gregg Young (sports) – in France 2001

E & OE

Various marque specialists (and websites) will be able to update this – I haven’t bothered keeping my records up-to-date for some years


MG drove a De Tomaso f1 in 1963???????? Where?


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 13:28

I didn't know he drove a Tasman Lola in 1965 either. I know he did in 1963, but some pedant will, no doubt, tell us that this wasn't the Tasman series.

Is the 1965 Indy BRP car missing from the list?

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 13:30

MG drove a De Tomaso f1 in 1963???????? Where?

Sorry, misreading of my data

He was entered to drive in the Pau GP but the car didn't turn up

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 13:39

I didn't know he drove a Tasman Lola in 1965 either. I know he did in 1963, but some pedant will, no doubt, tell us that this wasn't the Tasman series.

That's actually a typo - my notes say 1963. And if you're looking for a pedant, I'm your man :)

Is the 1965 Indy BRP car missing from the list?

That one comes under the 'O' section of my 'E&O' caveat



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Posted 13 February 2012 - 14:19

Ferrari 315S 0656/works (sports) – existed 2000 -Giorgio Perfetti, Switzerland
Ferrari 250TR 0666TR/works (sports) – unknown since California 1980 -Just purchased at auction by Carlos Hank, Mexico
Ferrari 250TR 0704TR/works (sports) – in UK 2005 -Hugh Taylor, UK
Maserati 450S 4508/Temple Buell (sports) – unknown after USA 1991 -has been owned for many years by Nick Soprano, US

The Willem Oosthoeck book lists the Birdcages that he drove with their current owners. I don't have ready access to that at the moment or I would list those also.

Tom

#21 David McKinney

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 14:30

Thanks, Tom

I had Soprano as the 1991 owner of the 450S but didn't dare assume he still had it 20 years on :cool:

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 20:08


The Lotus 19 he drove in 1962 was chassis 953 later owned by my father which was destroyed in a garage fire in 1966.

Edited by Steve O'Brien, 13 February 2012 - 20:11.


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Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:20

Ferrari 290MM s/n 0626 - with Ronald Stern, UK
Ferrari 250 GTO 3505GT - with Eric Heerema, NL (UK?)...it was at Pebble Beach last year

Vince H.

#24 David McKinney

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 16:18

And of course

Maserati 250F 2533/Scuderia Buell (F1) is now with Willy Balz in Germany

(I knew that...)

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 18:11

1966 McLaren M1B (chassis 30-19) is now with me! (in the UK, not in Monaco!)
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:23

He practised in the Brabham BT25 in 1968 but did not attempt a qualiying run.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 18:00

This book was difficult to find when new. I got a copy from the author or publisher via the web, but it took a little detective work. There are three copies currently on Amazon (US) at $400 each! Whatever, it's a good read, certainly a book that was needed.

Frank

I see that Green Mountain Motorbooks (no relation) will sell one for $350.00 US.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 22:28

I see that Green Mountain Motorbooks (no relation) will sell one for $350.00 US.

For those who are interested, there is a brand new (February 2012) book about Masten Gregory that has been published called "Masten Gregory - The Maverick", written by a French author named Patrick Sinibaldi, although the book is in English as the author believes the book will have a larger audience than if it would if written in French, due to the subject matter. It is 272 pages long and includes photos, some in color. If you Google the title of the book, you should be able to link to Motors Mania in Pau, France, a bookseller who I receive newsletters from. Cost is basically 30 Euros plus shipping. Using economy (2 week) shipping to North America at 5 Euros, the full cost will be about $50 U.S. or Canadian. Motors Mania accepts credit cards and Paypal and is currently offering the book on eBay as well (item 150760997101) , since they are also an eBay seller. Other than the newsletter and auction listing, I haven't seen the book myself, so I can't offer any opinion on it.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 05:30

Ferrari 330 TRI LM s/n 0808 - in Argentina now

Ferrari 340 America 0202A; 2006- Tom Shaughnessy, San Clemente, CA

Maserati Tipo 60/61 Birdcage s/n 2451 - in Germany now.

Vince H.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 15:10

Here is the 375MM from a couple years ago at Pebble Beach. From memory, it did not sell. http://www.conceptca...hoto.aspx#photo

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 14:53

:wave:

Thanks for all the information.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:10

Ferrari 365P2/3 0838 - I believe this is still owned by Peter Sachs in Stamford, Conn. Peter is Klemcoll on this forum.

Ferrari 410 s/n 0598CM - Roger Willbanks, Denver

Ferrari 206 S Dino s/n 008 - As of 2000, Kevin Crowder, Dallas, Texas

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 16:01

For those who are interested, there is a brand new (February 2012) book about Masten Gregory that has been published called "Masten Gregory - The Maverick", written by a French author named Patrick Sinibaldi -- Other than the newsletter and auction listing, I haven't seen the book myself, so I can't offer any opinion on it.

Got my copy today - looks good, apart from the fact that "my" M1B becomes a M19!
Incidentally I see Masten would have been 20 next week - he was born on the 29th Feb 1932!
In Killarney (Cape Town) earlier this month I drove two of his old cars back to back - "my" McLaren and Doug Mockett's Cooper T53. David Piper was there and said he was a great friend of Masten's "we smoked the same tobacco" and that Masten always said he expected to be killed, so what was the point of saving money.. they also shared a ward in hospital after both crashing at Goodwood - I think it was the time Masten baled out of his Tojeiro and David got his face cut up badly in another incident
Marcus

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 18:10

I'm halfway through reading it - very disappointed. Lots of factual errors (and some howlers in translation). Don't think I've yet learned anything I didn't already know

Might have something more positive to say when I've finished reading

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:39

Ferrari 250 LMB s/n 4713 - Lulu Wang, Ronkonkoma, NY

Ferrari 290MM s/n 0628 - Robert Harris, Logan, UT

Vince H.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:06

Masten Gregory's (reputed) Allard J2X was sold last year from Japan to a new owner in California where it is undergoing a restoration. I'll alert the owner to this.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 22:26

I agree with "raceannouncer2003": Masten Gregory's Ferrari 340A Vignale coupé (1953/4) was not 0206A but 0202A whose remains are reported with Tom Shaughnessy.