The cars of Cliff Byfield
#1
Posted 11 February 2012 - 03:16
the BRM Morgan. However i will let Rod tell the story. I have a lot of photos.
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#2
Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:28
Thanks Ken. David, I was thinking of opening a thread on Cliff Byfield and the cars and bodies he has built. That might be the best. It will include the Repco-Holden Sports.I would like more details on the "Repco22". Possibly on it's own thread.
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:19
#4
Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:22
Ken, like those blokes in the Le Mans start pic, you've jumped the gun! Nice pic though. Jack copped some flak for those 'whitewash' numbers.Jack Ayres in the Byfield Holden Sports. First race meeting.
#5
Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:22
There's now a dedicated Byfield thread in the Historical Research sub-forum
Thanks for that David. And for helping me to expand my consciousness. Good housekeeping! I have a job on at the mo' but will make a start on Cliff Byfield's work in the next couple of days.
#6
Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:24
IIRC the first complete car Cliff designed and built was a coupe made from the remains of a wrecked Citroen. A pic may be posted later. He has had a long love affair with Jaguars and his next creation was the first of three 'Byfield Jaguars'. It was completed, to his own design, in the mid-fifties and when displayed at a major department store, caused a sensation in the backwater that was Perth.
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A Jag Mk V motor was used and the car had a removable hardtop. The panels are in steel and it was finished in a metallic mid-green. After passing through several hands, Cliff's son now has the car back in the fold.
More to follow.
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#7
Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:58
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Cliff started with a MkV Jag chassis and some body panels, then drew up a design for a sports car. The 'guards and bonnet were modified, the grille shortened and the rest he made to suit. Wooden patterns were made for parts to be cast in bronze, such as the windscreen pillars. Due to the difficulty in getting chrome-plating that will last on steel, Cliff makes parts like the bumpers and the headlight mesh stoneguards, from stainless steel. Not easy to work but it won't rust! A measure of his metal-working skill can be gauged by those pieces of trim on the car's flanks. They are fashioned from brass sheet, are 'veed' in cross-section, taper to a point and of course, describe a beautiful curve. The interior is
trimmed in leather of a soft green shade which contrasts with jarrah ['Swan River Mahogany'] on the dashboard, door trims and self-made steering wheel. The standard of finish inside and out is comparable to a factory-made car. Motor, rear end and brakes are XJ6. The transmission was originally manual but Cliff recently converted it to auto for his wife's benefit. The Byfields enjoy taking the car to shows where, on more than one occasion, they've overheard blokes explain to their girlfriends that "this is a such-and-such model. Only X number were made" etc...
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:40
#9
Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:10
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:46
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#11
Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:38
#12
Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:42
#13
Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:45
#14
Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:51
Nice ones Ken. Cliff was fortunate to find a windscreen [ I forget from what] that suited the lines for the rear window.Side view. These shots were taken yesterday.
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This cartoon was from a card for Cliff's 80th birthday which coincided with his completion of the car.
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Below; Restoring the ex Gaze/Davison HWM-Jaguar sports and at bottom; Re-bodying Maybach III after Peter Briggs' horrifying prang at Philip Island. The tail was the only body panel to survive.
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Below; The maestro working on my Healey.
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#15
Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:16
The man was more than a genius, he must have also been a human dynamo to do all this stuff...
I hope I can get over there some time and see it in the flesh.
#16
Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:08
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:15
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#18
Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:13
Correction Ray. Cliff "IS" more than a genius. Happily he is still with us and still building cars. In fact, in between working on his latest creation, a Riley-based sports car, he is restoring an MGTD for his wife and a couple of weeks ago changed the auto trans on the second [ two-tone green] Byfield Jag to a different type. Oh yes, and he's looking for a spare Renault Twenty gearbox to make adjustable linkage arms for the yellow car while it remains in the museum.That car is simply gorgeous!
The man was more than a genius, he must have also been a human dynamo to do all this stuff...
I hope I can get over there some time and see it in the flesh.
#19
Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:32
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David Van Dal pic.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 22:50
#21
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:51
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#22
Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:33
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Pictured at Caversham in '57 with the Dodge motor.
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Pics-R Waller.
#23
Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:52
And why not?
#24
Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:17
David, while Maybach III's driving position is slightly offset, Mick sat to one side of the centreline and consequently in cross-section the body was a wider and shallower oval.Looks like a touch of the Maybach IIIs around the tail....
And why not?
But yes, nicely rounded.
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#25
Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:49
This was one of Cliff's best known and most admired creations. The basis of the car was a very successful open-wheeler, the BRM-Morgan, which had been designed and built by David Van Dal. Its construction had been commissioned by the Australian Morgan distributor of the mid-fifties, Perth's Bill Richards. BRM stood for Bill Richards Motors and had nothing to do with another constructor of the same name! Richards' idea was, of course, to promote the Morgan brand, David's space frame accommodating parts from a wrecked car. Front suspension, Vanguard motor, Moss box, that long bell-housing with the sliding barrel clutch-release bearing and rear axle [but with coil springs] were all from the Morgan. Steering was by Peugeot rack and pinion.
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David Van Dal and BRM-Morgan.
David was also a quick pedaller of the car and caused a sensation when he lowered the Caversham lap record by some six seconds. c1959 the shrewd Jack Ayres saw a niche for a good sports-racing car, that class being dominated by production cars like Healeys and TRs. Recognising the potential of the space-framed, Morgan-based BRM, he bought it and with Cliff Byfield's expert help, set about rebuilding it. Cliff lengthened and modified the space frame and designed a body with hints of Ferrari and Lotus but a style of its own. Jack tossed out the Vanguard motor and fitted a modified 'Grey' Holden one. First time out he won the state sports car title and followed it up with a 6-Hour Le Mans win with Lionel Beattie co-driving. Ray Barfield then purchased the ex David McKay DB3S and some close tussles followed, the best resulting in a dead-heat after the lead had changed three times in the last few hundred metres.
The impression the car made on fans gave Jack the idea to produce, with Cliff as partner, a kit-car along similar lines. The pair produced one steel-bodied, road-registered example, [see post 21 above] and another was incomplete when the idea was dropped due to sales tax making the project unviable.
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Jack Ayres' first trial of the sports car. Contrary to constant references, while Jack owned the car it was never Repco-powered. Lionel Beattie fitted a Repco head during his ownership.
Pics from the David Van Dal collection.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 00:06
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#27
Posted 02 March 2012 - 11:23
Ken, I guess you're referring to this; There was an occasion when Mick was doing some 'high-speed testing' on public roads near his home in Osborne Park, lost control and was thrown out. The car ended up perched up on some grapevine trellises. But the Ballot wasn't just 'rebodied'. Cliff designed and built a new car with a new frame. As mentioned, I think of the original Ballot, only the front wheels remained. Here's Mick in the number 6 Ballot with Sid Taylor in the TS Special, another car which Cliff has much more recently rebodied during a reconstruction.The Geneve car at Albany hillclimb 1957 by Alf Empsal. There is an interesting story behind why the Ballot was rebodied maybe Rod will tell us.
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David Van Dal pic.
#28
Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:47
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Pic by Alan Yates.
#29
Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:15
Below; the body as found, and bottom; original frame-designer, David Van Dal sits in the reconstructed sports car.
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Below; Waller chauffeurs Van Dal in the reconstructed car at a Caversham reunion.
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Below, ex-owner of the original, Rod Waller, with chassis designer, David Van Dal and bodybuilder, Cliff Byfield at Caversham.
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Pics by Neil McCrudden.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:58
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:42
#32
Posted 15 March 2012 - 06:49
Gordon, that pic was taken before the start of the '65 '6-Hour'. My co-driver and ex-owner of the car, the late Lionel Beattie is wearing the short raincoat. He'd driven in June '6-Hours' before! I had Peter Lyons narrow the nose intake a little as I didn't like the look of the full width one. After Neil McCrudden collided with a tyre barrier at Joondalup with the reconstructed car,Cliff repaired it and changed its look once again. It now has a slight 'smile'.Some time after the 64 six-hour, the Repco Holden Sports appeared with the nose slightly modified to look like this. Rod can probably shed some light.
Here's another pic of Lionel and self before the start. Dick Morrow and John Bowles crewing.
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The second pic shows Cliff working on the ex-Gaze/Davison HWM-Jag. His second Byfield-Jag takes shape in the foreground. That brown thing behind him is a 6 foot sheet metal brake which Cliff made from scrap metal from the Midland Railway workshops.
The third pic is from c 1967 and shows me trailing John Glasson in his Rambler V8 special. We shared fastest lap in that race. The field included the O'Sullivan Lola T70 but I have to admit it was not running on 8! There was still life in the old 'Repco' after eight years.
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#33
Posted 22 March 2012 - 12:16
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Pic by David Van Dal.
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#34
Posted 24 March 2012 - 06:27
The Byfield bodied MGTC Special of Ron Millar 1963. This is not the original John Walker chassis.
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So what is the story here Ken, the Byfield body on a 'non John Walker MG chassis'?
The Walker photos bring it back as if it were yesterday.
#35
Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:33
racing after inquiring about some interstate specials he couldn't find one in his financial range so he decided to build his own.
He heard Bill Strickland had the ex John Walker Byfield body he did a deal with Bill to by an MGTC and exchange that body for the
Byfield body and with the assistance of a friend Bill Harrington they built the MG Special. The car performed quite well but unfortunatly
Ron developed an illness the cut short his racing carreer. He even bribed the handicappers by giving them a drive of the car on a
tuning day it was an enjoyable drive and it is the only open wheel racing car i have ever driven.
I think Jack Ayres son bought the car and converted it to road use. The car now sits in a shed i think in Bicton and has not been used
for years, it was for sale some time ago for a high price.
#36
Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:20
John raced the MG once and Colin laughed when he told how the commentator had given the champion's son a big wrap as he came onto the straight--"Big things were expected of him etc.." Poor John then promptly blew the motor to bits and raced no more! It's interesting to note that here were two Byfield-bodied racing cars, both ex-state champions and both driven to the circuit. It couldn't happen today.
#37
Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:47
through some MG enthusiasts but nobody had heard of the car. I next saw the car at the York historics about 1986 , Ron made inquires
about buying the car but the price was to high.
#38
Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:14
I can't help Ken, other than to say it was painted green and was occasionally seen on the road.Rod to find more history on the car do you what happened to the car after John Ayres had it? i made inquires about it in the 70s
through some MG enthusiasts but nobody had heard of the car. I next saw the car at the York historics about 1986 , Ron made inquires
about buying the car but the price was to high.
#39
Posted 15 April 2012 - 14:36
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