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#2851 Mandzipop

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 20:14

Back on topic, should Georgie and Simon swap?

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#2852 Fastcake

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 21:29

Back on topic, should Georgie and Simon swap?


Yes, from the coverage I've seen she would do a better job at main presenter.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 21:31

Back on topic, should Georgie and Simon swap?


YES! Nice to know I'm not the only who thinks she would do so much better as main presenter than Captain yawn.

Edited by Buttoneer, 05 April 2012 - 21:56.


#2854 Mandzipop

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 21:52

Yes, from the coverage I've seen she would do a better job at main presenter.


I reckon it would increase viewing figures too. She looks better when she is not all done up in the Katie Price way. I reckon that she would have more chance with getting the drivers as she is quite easy natured (in a Lee Mckenzie way). I reckon give it another couple of races and if people watch the show then they might start suggesting that she becomes the main presenter. She's got what Jake has. Simon is not bold enough.

Swap Georgie and Simon and get Johnny to replace Brundle and I think they would have a better balanced team. Or maybe bring someone else who is a bit more open on board.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 21:56

Posts deleted. There are threads in paddock club where you can complain bitterly about evil sky or evil BBC. This thread is for people to discuss F1 coverage in a motorsports forum.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 22:26

Back on topic, should Georgie and Simon swap?


absolutely she is gorgeous . drivers wii try and gave her everything they could

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:34

So now we're all a group of viewers that can be placated by sticking an (apparently) fit girl as the main presenter? Not only that but it'd bring new viewers? :rotfl:

Let's see how long GT could maintain the credibility and interest in the increasingly technical nature of the questioning and subject matter.

She's good on the F1 show. Give the guy Simon a chance to ease into the role. Wouldn't be easy breaking into this new role and I dare say quite a few in the paddock may be 'pro Jake'.

#2858 Mandzipop

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:08

So now we're all a group of viewers that can be placated by sticking an (apparently) fit girl as the main presenter? Not only that but it'd bring new viewers? :rotfl:

Let's see how long GT could maintain the credibility and interest in the increasingly technical nature of the questioning and subject matter.

She's good on the F1 show. Give the guy Simon a chance to ease into the role. Wouldn't be easy breaking into this new role and I dare say quite a few in the paddock may be 'pro Jake'.


The "fit girl" wasn't my reasoning. I see her as a person that would find it easier to get a hold of someone because she comes across more approachable than Simon. She seems more confident and I don't think she'd shy away from grabbing hold of someone like Simon does. To me that is one area they are seriously lacking and I think she'd do a better job at that than Simon. The fact that they are not interacting with the paddock is the reason that come China I will watch the BBC build up and after-race show, however I will watch the race itself on Sky as I prefer their commentary.

I'm a woman, so my point was never about her looks. It is about her presenting capabilities and I think she would be more suited to the role that is currently occupied by Simon.

#2859 Vitesse2

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:13

Back on topic, should Georgie and Simon swap?

No, he'd never be able to carry off that tight black dress ... :p

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:45

No, he'd never be able to carry off that tight black dress ... :p


Not many adults can wear GAP Kids.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 13:44

absolutely she is gorgeous .


No, she's not gorgeous.
She may be a drunk, knuckle dragging, Chelsea football fans idea of gorgeous but sights are aimed very low in Britain.

THIS..is gorgeous.

Jp


#2862 Kvothe

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 13:47

No, she's not gorgeous.
She may be a drunk, knuckle dragging, Chelsea football fans idea of gorgeous but sights are aimed very low in Britain.

THIS..is gorgeous.


Jp

A tentative :up:
I'd have to see the body first.

Edited by Kvothe, 06 April 2012 - 13:47.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 13:50

it's impossible to be "gorgeous" and 5ft tall :) Sorry short girls

She's nice and everything but pretty far from any reasonable definition of gorgeous. At least Sky smartened up and put her in dresses that hide the wine pouch a bit, cause the first skypad in Aus was a bit embarrassing

#2864 Kvothe

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 14:02

it's impossible to be "gorgeous" and 5ft tall :) Sorry short girls

She's nice and everything but pretty far from any reasonable definition of gorgeous. At least Sky smartened up and put her in dresses that hide the wine pouch a bit, cause the first skypad in Aus was a bit embarrassing

:up: :lol: :lol:

#2865 Boing 2

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 14:18

what's a wine pouch?

#2866 engel

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 14:25

what's a wine pouch?


it's the polite female version of the beer belly

#2867 Boing 2

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 14:29

ahhh.

#2868 Cavani

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 16:39

tight dresses always work for men and technical talk could come later :D

#2869 Wingnut

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 17:03

The "fit girl" wasn't my reasoning. I see her as a person that would find it easier to get a hold of someone because she comes across more approachable than Simon. She seems more confident and I don't think she'd shy away from grabbing hold of someone like Simon does. To me that is one area they are seriously lacking and I think she'd do a better job at that than Simon. The fact that they are not interacting with the paddock is the reason that come China I will watch the BBC build up and after-race show, however I will watch the race itself on Sky as I prefer their commentary.

I'm a woman, so my point was never about her looks. It is about her presenting capabilities and I think she would be more suited to the role that is currently occupied by Simon.


Yeah, Sky's lack of interaction with the paddock isn't great. I was half expecting someone to accidentally walk through them and give the game away that they were being filmed against a green screen back in London!

#2870 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 20:08

I thoroughly enjoyed The F1 Show, would definitely recommend any Williams fan to check it out. I did find the Leyton House story interesting, with Williams only picking up Newey because Leyton House had got rid of him. A nice rallying segment as well with Rider interviewing Prost, Villeneuve and Panis which I enjoyed. Hopefully they carry the idea of designer and car forward into future 'off weeks', so say Ross Brawn talking about the Benetton B195 or Ferrari F2000/2001/2002 (take your pick!) or Adrian Newey talking about the McLaren MP4-15.

(the lack of comments on here suggests that no one watched it?)

#2871 Vitesse2

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 20:59

I thoroughly enjoyed The F1 Show, would definitely recommend any Williams fan to check it out. I did find the Leyton House story interesting, with Williams only picking up Newey because Leyton House had got rid of him. A nice rallying segment as well with Rider interviewing Prost, Villeneuve and Panis which I enjoyed. Hopefully they carry the idea of designer and car forward into future 'off weeks', so say Ross Brawn talking about the Benetton B195 or Ferrari F2000/2001/2002 (take your pick!) or Adrian Newey talking about the McLaren MP4-15.

(the lack of comments on here suggests that no one watched it?)

I'd been watching Mastermind (the winner's specialist subject was the Monaco GP :up: ) so only saw the second half. I'll catch a repeat over the weekend ...

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 21:15

I thoroughly enjoyed The F1 Show, would definitely recommend any Williams fan to check it out. I did find the Leyton House story interesting, with Williams only picking up Newey because Leyton House had got rid of him. A nice rallying segment as well with Rider interviewing Prost, Villeneuve and Panis which I enjoyed. Hopefully they carry the idea of designer and car forward into future 'off weeks', so say Ross Brawn talking about the Benetton B195 or Ferrari F2000/2001/2002 (take your pick!) or Adrian Newey talking about the McLaren MP4-15.

(the lack of comments on here suggests that no one watched it?)


Agreed, it was a good show.


#2873 Mandzipop

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 21:25

I thoroughly enjoyed The F1 Show, would definitely recommend any Williams fan to check it out. I did find the Leyton House story interesting, with Williams only picking up Newey because Leyton House had got rid of him. A nice rallying segment as well with Rider interviewing Prost, Villeneuve and Panis which I enjoyed. Hopefully they carry the idea of designer and car forward into future 'off weeks', so say Ross Brawn talking about the Benetton B195 or Ferrari F2000/2001/2002 (take your pick!) or Adrian Newey talking about the McLaren MP4-15.

(the lack of comments on here suggests that no one watched it?)


Haven't gotten round to seeing it yet. If I get chance over the weekend I will. Sounds good.

I have to say that the F1 shows are really good from what I've seen. If they get better we are in for a treat. :D

#2874 DanardiF1

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 21:26

Missed it because of work, but have enjoyed the shows so far so will look for the repeats.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 21:44

Wine pouch out in force tonight wearing that tight white dress.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 22:01

Missed it because of work, but have enjoyed the shows so far so will look for the repeats.


You should be able to see it any night this week they seem to repeat programs as often as their movies :stoned:

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 00:40

Wine pouch out in force tonight wearing that tight white dress.


it appears that we will get a lot of those tight dresses through the season

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:10

Simon and Georgie should swap - she is much more interesting and engaging, and they should include Ted more in the aftershow, he maybe able to help out with the interaction in the paddock.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:53

Some videos on the Sky website for those unable to watch The F1 Show from last night:

- http://www1.skysport...o/12870/7655154
- http://www1.skysport...o/20699/7655141
- http://www1.skysport...o/12870/7655140
- http://www1.skysport...o/19599/7655139

:)

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#2880 midgrid

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 14:58

A familiar voice...

#2881 Hamilton100000

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 19:18

A familiar voice...

an annoying voice


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 19:26

Classic line he came out with when the rower at the back of the boat collapsed "he was training to be a doctor". I live in fear that i'll tune into the 100m final during the Olympics and he will be the commentary. "Usain Bolt, what can he do from here."

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 19:44

Classic line he came out with when the rower at the back of the boat collapsed "he was training to be a doctor". I live in fear that i'll tune into the 100m final during the Olympics and he will be the commentary. "Usain Bolt, what can he do from here."

That chris hoy, he is in the wars :D

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 20:00

Up the hill

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 20:48

A familiar voice...


"There's a swimmer in the river! Now, will that bring out the safety boat?"

#2886 Mandzipop

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 21:18

I thought this was about the F1 coverage (BBC and Sky), not about a boat race. Legard is not a current member of the F1 BBC coverage.

Please keep the thread on topic.

#2887 D.M.N.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 21:34

Sky Sports F1 Schedule Change - The broadcasts of the Chinese Grand Prix have been extended from 4 hours 30 minutes to 5 hours, the live broadcast finishes at 11:30 instead of 11:00 next Sunday. The Qualifying length is 2 hours 45 minutes.

Also, straight after, the Legends show moves into a 1 hour format, as previously noted. The schedule is therefore as follows:

06:30 - Live: Chinese Grand Prix
11:30 - New: Legends - Mario Andretti
- note: this is marked a repeat on the Radio Times website, however it is the first time it is in a one hour format
12:30 - Chinese Grand Prix Repeat

Source: Radio Times

I suspect this is in response to the criticism with regards their post-race coverage, so good to see it being extended by half an hour. :)

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 21:49

Sky Sports F1 Schedule Change - The broadcasts of the Chinese Grand Prix have been extended from 4 hours 30 minutes to 5 hours, the live broadcast finishes at 11:30 instead of 11:00 next Sunday. The Qualifying length is 2 hours 45 minutes.

Also, straight after, the Legends show moves into a 1 hour format, as previously noted. The schedule is therefore as follows:

06:30 - Live: Chinese Grand Prix
11:30 - New: Legends - Mario Andretti
- note: this is marked a repeat on the Radio Times website, however it is the first time it is in a one hour format
12:30 - Chinese Grand Prix Repeat

Source: Radio Times

I suspect this is in response to the criticism with regards their post-race coverage, so good to see it being extended by half an hour. :)


:clap:

I'll watch that live and then I'll watch the BBC version. It will probably be on iplayer by then. It will give a good chance to see how well Sky are actually doing. It is the first time we will get a direct comparison. If the Sky version is not as good then the next dual race I will take up the BBC build up option and watch Sky for the race and then switch back to the BBC option. This is the first true head-to-head. As it stands, I reckon that Sky will lose out big style.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 22:47

Sky Sports F1 Schedule Change - The broadcasts of the Chinese Grand Prix have been extended from 4 hours 30 minutes to 5 hours, the live broadcast finishes at 11:30 instead of 11:00 next Sunday. The Qualifying length is 2 hours 45 minutes.

Also, straight after, the Legends show moves into a 1 hour format, as previously noted. The schedule is therefore as follows:

06:30 - Live: Chinese Grand Prix
11:30 - New: Legends - Mario Andretti
- note: this is marked a repeat on the Radio Times website, however it is the first time it is in a one hour format
12:30 - Chinese Grand Prix Repeat

Source: Radio Times

I suspect this is in response to the criticism with regards their post-race coverage, so good to see it being extended by half an hour. :)


Good. The only criticism i have with Sky's coverage is the post race coverage. Feels like ITV and thats not a good thing. So rushed not enough interviews. No excuses giving this is an F1 channel. Here is hoping this means good post race coverage from now on. I hope its not just cause they know BBC is agaist them for the first time.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 23:36

Sky Sports F1 Schedule Change - The broadcasts of the Chinese Grand Prix have been extended from 4 hours 30 minutes to 5 hours, the live broadcast finishes at 11:30 instead of 11:00 next Sunday. The Qualifying length is 2 hours 45 minutes.

Also, straight after, the Legends show moves into a 1 hour format, as previously noted. The schedule is therefore as follows:

06:30 - Live: Chinese Grand Prix
11:30 - New: Legends - Mario Andretti
- note: this is marked a repeat on the Radio Times website, however it is the first time it is in a one hour format
12:30 - Chinese Grand Prix Repeat

Source: Radio Times

I suspect this is in response to the criticism with regards their post-race coverage, so good to see it being extended by half an hour. :)


Indeed there were not enough post race coverage and the Legends stuff was too short so its a step in the right direction.


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 23:51

I thought this was about the F1 coverage (BBC and Sky), not about a boat race. Legard is not a current member of the F1 BBC coverage.

Please keep the thread on topic.


Sorry, couldn't resist it. :blush:


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 10:22

What did the subscribers think of the Patrick Head slot? Having watched a stream of it I found it very frustrating to be honest, lots of potential but mostly wasted.

I think two presenters is too much for a single guest, they talk over each other, each trying to take the interview in their own direction and it becomes a slightly combative environment. They should have had Brundle alone do the Head interview, too good a guest to waste on poor interviewers.

I hate this MTV (I know, I'm old) style of having to slice a show up into 3 minute segments because us 'monkeys' can't focus any longer. They essentially ended up asking Patrick one question, getting one answer and immediately diving off into an unrelated video/ad break. There was no flow whatsoever and Gerogie even jumped in to truncate the odd answer to get into an ad break on time, you felt like every time you were getting going someone would hit the brakes. The constant jumps to other segments leads to an odd and in my eyes quite rude style of presenting where you ask a question, get an answer then turn your back on the guest and talk to the camera without any acknowledgment of your guest. Maybe I'm just nit-picking (probably) but I just constantly found myself thinking, can you not just say 'thanks Patrick' before turning away to talk to the camera?

They should have recorded a single, unbroken interview then spliced it (less frequently) with other items after to maintain some kind of flow to the peice.

The car comparison could have been fascinating but ended up really trivial and substandard. Whatever is limiting the camera angles for the virtual car really rendered the comparison useless when you see a close up of a 93 wishbone and a close up of the sidewall of a 2012 tyre because the camera can't show the suspension. Couldn't they just get a physical 2011 Red Bull and compare the real cars side by side?

To be honest, a detailed comparison of two cars from different eras would have been a killer piece, maybe go back a bit older with the modern car so you can get the freedom to get the bodywork off and compare the guts. Get overhead shots to show how packaging has improved, show close ups of the braking systems and gearboxes etc. Could have been great compared to a two minute skim that you can do yourself looking at pictures on the web.

I know I've made my feeling clear about not watching Sky for political reasons but I'd be perfectly happy praising them if they were doing a good job. After all, quality is not the issue I made my decision on, the show doesn't need to be bad for me to feel vindicated. It's just that Brundles very first statement about this was that it would be great coverage for hardcore fans and really get into the guts of F1 and yet everything I've seen so far has been the very opposite, trivial, peicemeal and commercial.




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Posted 08 April 2012 - 10:42

:clap:

I'll watch that live and then I'll watch the BBC version. It will probably be on iplayer by then. It will give a good chance to see how well Sky are actually doing. It is the first time we will get a direct comparison. If the Sky version is not as good then the next dual race I will take up the BBC build up option and watch Sky for the race and then switch back to the BBC option. This is the first true head-to-head. As it stands, I reckon that Sky will lose out big style.


Yeah that's my plan too, build up and post race on BBC but commentary on Sky, best of both worlds.

#2894 D.M.N.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:36

Chinese Grand Prix - UK TV Times
Friday
02:45 to 04:50 - Live Practice 1 (Sky Sports F1)
02:55 to 04:35 - Live Practice 1 (BBC Red Button)
06:45 to 08:50 - Live Practice 2 (Sky Sports F1)
06:55 to 08:35 - Live Practice 2 (BBC Red Button)
11:00 to 12:00 - Live F1 Show (Sky Sports F1)

Saturday
03:45 to 05:15 - Live Practice 3 (Sky Sports F1)
03:55 to 05:05 - Live Practice 3 (BBC Red Button)
06:00 to 08:30 - Live Qualifying (BBC One)
06:00 to 08:45 - Live Qualifying (Sky Sports F1)
13:00 to 14:15 - Qualifying Repeat (BBC Two/HD)

Sunday
06:30 to 11:30 - Live Race (Sky Sports F1)
07:00 to 10:15 - Live Race (BBC One)
10:15 to 11:15 - Live Forum (BBC Red Button)
14:50 to 16:50 - Race Repeat (BBC One)
19:00 to 20:00 - Race Highlights (BBC Two/HD)

With both BBC TV and Sky TV covering events live this weekend, I have not put down the Radio times.

#2895 D.M.N.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:50

http://www.motorspor...th-ben-edwards/ - Ben Edwards podcast (thanks to MODTL on Digital Spy for the link)

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 12:17

http://www.motorspor...th-ben-edwards/ - Ben Edwards podcast (thanks to MODTL on Digital Spy for the link)

Pretty good, but not one of their best.

I do like Ben Edwards, though. Used to listen to him and John Watson on Eurosport back in the early nineties or so.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 14:18

I thought this was about the F1 coverage (BBC and Sky), not about a boat race. Legard is not a current member of the F1 BBC coverage.

Please keep the thread on topic.

Actually he is, he'll be doing a few races on 5 Live later this year.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 18:38

No, she's not gorgeous.
She may be a drunk, knuckle dragging, Chelsea football fans idea of gorgeous but sights are aimed very low in Britain.

THIS..is gorgeous.

Jp

:up:

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 19:29

:up:


hmm erm, shes okay, but you see just she as pretty down the street or in shops in town every day of the week, its amazing, but stick a person in front of a camera or in a model gallery and they suddenly proclaimed one of the most beautiful women in the world, usually when you WTF, how did they get on there

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 21:09

No, she's not gorgeous.
She may be a drunk, knuckle dragging, Chelsea football fans idea of gorgeous but sights are aimed very low in Britain.

THIS..is gorgeous.

Jp


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc etc.

Georgie is damned sexy but, if your talking best looking pitlane reports/presenters (No, not Ted!) Lee Mckenzie is stunningly pretty, wins hands down in the looks stakes for me. Not that it influences my opinion of their respective abilities (honest :blush: ), Georgie is good on The F1 Show but total baggage in the main coverage for me. Get her and Ant off that "Sky Pad" and put Ant with Simon, Martin etc.