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[Barry Boor]

The thread title says it all.

Any measurements of any part of the car would be most welcome, including tyre sizes.

I have several pictures of what appear to be similar cars but the wheel and tyre sizes seem to vary greatly. I use the wheelbase measurement, if I can obtain it, to scale everything else on the car to create a slot car body. It's a vague method but there is no alternative unless I get a whole load of dimensions.

I wish I knew who owns the car I have images of on the track. That would be a sure way of getting the right dimensions.

[bradbury west]

Wheelbase 310cm
track (Spoorbreedte?) front 141cm, rear 149cm
length 489cm. width 171cm. ht depends on body config.
2729cc 65 pf.kr @ 4000rpm. Can do bore and stroke if you need it.........
Kind regards, glad the sun is shining
Roger
PS David Burgess-Wise did the definitive tome on the marque AFAIR, so a VSCC member may be able to help with tyre sizes. ISTR that there was a big article in the Bulletin some years ago on a full rebuild of one of these, or similar.

[Barry Boor]

Wonderful! TNF strikes again. Many thanks, Roger.

I will post a picture of whatever I finally manage to produce but don't hold your breath.

[Barry Boor]

Blimey! That's absolutely enormous. It gives me a 32nd scale wheelbase of almost 97 mm. Most of my cars are around 78 - 82. The length comes out at 153 mm, a Talbot Lago is 126 mm and that is a pretty big car.

When I look at the driver in this car:



I cannot believe this car is 16 feet long.

[VDP]

I ve read somewhere that Delahaye and Delage shared the same wheelbase

270 cm

[D-Type]

William Boddy's Sports Car Pocketbook has the wheelbase of the 1937 D6 70 Sports as 10ft 4in, which I think is 3150mm, and the tyres as 17 x 6.50

[VDP]

for the normal car yes, the racing car shared the same chassis as the 135 S competition

[Barry Boor]

270 cm would give me a wheelbase of 84 mm. That would seem to be more realistic with regard to the above vehicle.

[bradbury west]

Barry, I was quoting for the saloon............
RL

[David McKinney]

I think the model Barry's interested in is the run of six(?) single-seaters run by Watney under the Ecurie Gersac banner in 1947 GPs

[Barry Boor]

What's a saloon?

[mikeC]

What's a saloon?

[Barry Boor]

Of course, I should have known.

[JB Miltonian]

The current (April 2012) issue of Octane magazine has an illustrated ad on page 201 for a Delage "D670 Course" 1939, apparently a private party sale (no dealer mentioned), with a telephone number included. Perhaps this is the one shown on the track in your images?

[Vitesse2]

Delage "D670 Course" 1939 ..

No such animal, IMHO.

The 3 litre Delage raced by Louis Gérard in 1938 was nominally a D6-70. However, this was just a bit of marketing by Walter Watney as the production D6-70 saloon and cabriolet had a 2.7 litre engine: the Gérard car was actually a one-off built on a Delahaye 135CS chassis, originally built for the cancelled 1936 Le Mans 24 Hours, and fitted with a short-stroke version of Arthur-Léon Michelat's 3.6 litre Delage engine, all originally clothed in a coupé body by Figoni & Falaschi. It raced at Le Mans in 1937 but for 1938 the coupé body was removed and fitted to the Delahaye 135 of Germaine Rouault, Gérard's chassis receiving an open sports body with cycle wings – again by Figoni & Falaschi.

This is the restored Figoni & Falaschi coupé:



And this is a recreation of the Gérard car - there are pictures of this on the net which describe it as a "1939 Delage D6-70 course", which it isn't:





Two further works Delages de course were built in 1939, but they are typed D6-3L:



Then, just to confuse things, Walter Watney decided to call these D6-70s as well. They were originally to be part of a 1946 one-make series which would provide a packaged Grand Prix - cars, drivers, organisation, the lot - to any French municipalité which wanted one: a similar idea to the "Cisitalia circus":

[Barry Boor]

Completed the first car today: