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#101 dweller23

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 20:28

Found some very interesting information regarding RAI broadcasts:

- Piero Casucci was F1 commentator for RAI at least since Monaco 1959. His last commentaries should be around 1974-75 (last confirmed: Italy 74)

- Italy 55 was available on Eurovision. This is the oldest F1 race confirmed to be available on Eurovision!


And something that I knew for a bit of time:

- First F1 race shown in Italy on TV is 1953 Italian GP (three live segments). Interestingly, parts of that broadcast (if not everything) are still in RAI archives


#102 PeterElleray

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 22:36

It probably does as the ORF archives do not make anything available unless it was hosted on Austrian soil. Home VCRs were available from 76/77-ish so most likely someone just taped them.

the quality of these old analogue derived recordings seems to be a direct function of how many 'generations' away from the original tapes they are. some of the tapes from this era that i have seen look to be no more than 1 or 2 generations away from the ORF masters, although, ironically, an old betamax machine from the early 80's can prodce a better image than a later vhs machine, which complicates matters.don't have first hand knowledge of home recording in the late 70's so i cant comment on the quality, presumably not a great deal different.


so whilst they could be derived from old home recordings. those are usually given away by some sort of continuity announcement (or adverts on commercial channels). was/is ORF a commercial station and would coverage of a GP during this era have had 'ad' breaks?


there are a few spots on the swedish broadcast where the tape does a typical analogue 'woopsie' as the signal seems to drop away, and a continuity announcer on the start , before the king starts to do his 'king' bit in a tour of the circuit, which might lend some weight to that one being a home recording.


but i'd lay money on quite a few of these tapes having been recorded directly from the masters, whether or not the official line is that nothing is avaliable from the ORF archive. who was it who said that borrowing is theft without a court case afterwards.?

#103 dweller23

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 18:36

Some people probably know this video of 1977 Canadian GP:


Does anyone have an idea where could it be from? French language suggests either French or Quebec TV. The changes between shots make it look like world feed, which is currently the only suggestion that there ever was one. I know that French TF1 showed highlights of the race in AutoMoto magazine and that segment is definitely not from that show. Unfortunately, Montreal Gazette doesn't mention any broadcast of that race in any TV station. The only race from that week is Michigan 150 on CTV mixed with lumberjack world championships from Quebec...

#104 Michael Ferner

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 19:16

Hmm, lumberjack world championships? Has to do with felling, too, hasn't it...  ;)

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 23:09

It's actually sad, ABC and CTV devoted tons of time to lumberjack championships every year in 1970s... It was probably cheaper than F1, but I would imagine that CTV was the host TV of Canadian GP in 1970s (they were in 1978-82 period as well as in late 60s).


Any information on that clip would be really, really amazing.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 18:13

Okay, so this video is from TVA, but is from a program about Gilles Villeneuve showed shortly after his death. This could mean that CTV/TVA indeed were the host tv, but still didn't show the race live on tv (unless it was live in local Ontario channels).

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 16:13

The Swedish GP ยด78 was originally scheluded on Sunday the

18th of June but was later changed.


The change of dates was reported in Autosport on March 2nd.

The reason given was that 18th of June was the day of the

second round of the World Cup (soccer I presume) and the

networks were comitted to that.


The race was to be televised around the world including the US

by Societe Francais de Production.


ITV confimed one week later that London Weekend would show

the race live.


The midsummer weekend was 23-24th of June that year. 



It seems that Societe Francais de Production was involved in producing Monaco GP broadcasts for some time. SFP is on the graphics for 1976 Monaco GP.


Also, some updates - it would appear that Sweden 1975 is almost for sure gone. SVT doesn't hold the copyrights and they have no idea who has the copyrights. I checked with almost every archive in countries which showed the race - apart from Italy and Brazil. Another possibility is that it is hidden somewhere in French archives, perhaps...


Maybe if the copyright holder is found, it might help a little bit.


I also updated the broadcasts spreadsheet, added a lot of new stuff from various countries.