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#1 jonpollak

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 14:08

Bloody Danica Fan..
One race he starts the thread weeks ahead.
Now?..No thread for you.
Maybe he has a stalking mission on at Texas Motor Speedway?
Who Knows?!?!? :drunk:

Seeing that Red17 snaked OLB on this weeks NASCAR thread...

I'll try to put up all the stuff DanicaFan does but it's not looking too likely.

Anyway...CHEVY ENGINE ANYONE?

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#2 911

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 14:10

If it doesn't rain today then I'll be there this afternoon.

#3 jonpollak

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 14:22

If it doesn't rain today then I'll be there this afternoon.


Cool..grab some photos for us if ya can.
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#4 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 14:41

So, ignoring HOW they're going to line up the grid after qualifying we can assume the Chevy's are going to be somewhere in the midfield to back.

If you're a Honda runner, particularly a front runner, do you save your preferred tires in qualifying, knowing 13 out of 26 cars are going to be penalised? For a non-Chevy in the Fast 6, do you even run a lap?

#5 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 15:04

Woooo, apparently Legge with a change too. 14 for 26!

#6 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 15:04

That hairpin on Shoreline Drive is called the Queen's Hairpin, yes?

#7 PayasYouRace

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 15:19

Thanks for starting the thread JP. I almost did it yesterday but I didn't want to step on DanicaFan's toes.

OLB, I think the Queen's Hairpin was the one at the other end of Shoreline Driver, in the F1 days. The one at the beginning was Le Gasomet, but I don't think the current one is still called that, especially as it's much closer to the pits than the old one was.

#8 Jim Thurman

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 16:04

Woooo, apparently Legge with a change too. 14 for 26!

Let's make it really interesting...everyone changes but Honda :)

EDIT: meant Lotus

Edited by Jim Thurman, 13 April 2012 - 17:11.


#9 Jim Thurman

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 16:05

That hairpin on Shoreline Drive is called the Queen's Hairpin, yes?

Queen's Hairpin was at the opposite end and no longer used. The Queen Mary is docked across the water after that point, thus the name.

#10 SonnyViceR

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 16:08

ALMS morning practice was as wet as it gets...

Any channel giving coverage of the Toyota Celebrity/Pro race? Speed used to do that but I'm not sure if that's the case anymore as the ALMS deal ended

#11 Red17

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 16:09

Thanks for starting the thread JP. I almost did it yesterday but I didn't want to step on DanicaFan's toes.

Everyone seems to be late this week. But im sure DanicaFan doesn't mind.

#12 Rob G

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:04

Let's make it really interesting...everyone changes but Honda :)

It'd be a lot more interesting if everybody changes but Lotus.

#13 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:05

We'd have three cars at the front and then a gap to 11th :p

#14 jonpollak

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:07

A soggy first practice is under way.
The standard audio and live timing for you.
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#15 Jim Thurman

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:11

It'd be a lot more interesting if everybody changes but Lotus.

Sigh!...that's what I wanted to type (hadn't had my coffee yet)

+1 to what you wrote.

#16 jonpollak

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:14

Casting my mind back to the last time I was at the Beach..
It was wet...Who says it never rains in Southern California.
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#17 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:17

98?

#18 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:19

Last time I remember rain at Long Beach(though someone will obviously correct me)

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#19 Jim Thurman

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:20

Casting my mind back to the last time I was at the Beach..
It was wet...Who says it never rains in Southern California.
Jp

Well, Albert Hammond was the culprit, but he's from Gibraltar...and it was a lyrical metaphor anyhow :)

It amazes me how many times the LBGP has dodged rain. Down to preliminary races getting washed (I recall an Atlantics race stopped because they had no rain tires!), but staying dry most feature races.

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#20 PayasYouRace

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:22

Well, Albert Hammond was the culprit, but he's from Gibraltar...and it was a lyrical metaphor anyhow :)


That was obviously just payback for those who think it never rains in Gib. :lol:

#21 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:25

Hmm...2001 practice too

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#22 jonpollak

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:52

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 18:11

Hmm...2001 practice too

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That was one helluva wet day, I made it for that one.
Not gonna make it to LB this weekend, we have the Coachella Fest here and since I'm a local I have some buds there that supposedly will sneak me in on Sunday.
If...
The older I get the less I like crowds, so maybe, maybe not...
>PS, not ethe diff between the GY and FS rains above...

Edited by whitewaterMkII, 13 April 2012 - 18:13.


#24 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 19:01

Queen's Hairpin was at the opposite end and no longer used. The Queen Mary is docked across the water after that point, thus the name.

Ah, got it.

I can still remember seeing that track layout on pencil boxes and racing games and that distinctive hairpin at the Beginning of the pit "straight."

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 19:32

Should be an interesting race as all the Chevy's try to work by all the Loti (except Bourdais). Go SEB Go

#26 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 19:40

3 of the 5 Lotus cars have engine penalties too.

#27 Andrew Hope

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 19:41

Spotter guide's up on the Indycar site. Tony Kanaan running blue this weekend and Simona de Silvestro's car looks good.

#28 jonpollak

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 20:28

Spotter guide's up on the Indycar site. Tony Kanaan running blue this weekend and Simona de Silvestro's car looks good.

Spotters guide is linked in the first post of this thread...
:smoking:
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#29 PayasYouRace

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 21:38

Practice 1 highlights

Some great wet track moments there. :)

#30 jonpollak

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:12

Guess what kids....Honda now has decided to change ALL its turbos....Oh but wait... Half way though they are told to changeback....

Where's that clown stamp when ya need it
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#31 Bloggsworth

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:14

Casting my mind back to the last time I was at the Beach..
It was wet...Who says it never rains in Southern California.
Jp


The Mamas and Papas...

#32 PayasYouRace

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:16

Tell you what, I'll come back on Sunday evening it time for the race and just assume the grid was decided by a draw, and then I'll enjoy the race. ;)

#33 Bloggsworth

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:19

Casting my mind back to the last time I was at the Beach..
It was wet...Who says it never rains in Southern California.
Jp


The Mamas and Papas...


Seems it never rains in southern California

Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before

It never rains in California, but girl, don't they warn ya?

It pours, man, it pours



#34 Option1

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:35

Ahhh the implicit irony of answering a rhetorical question.

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PS: The Mamas and Papas

#35 Jim Thurman

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:46

The Mamas and Papas...


Seems it never rains in southern California

Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before

It never rains in California, but girl, don't they warn ya?

It pours, man, it pours

Is that your final answer Bloggsworth? ;)

Those are in fact the lyrics, but written by Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood. A lot of people have recorded it, but the hit was by Albert Hammond in late 1972. The Mamas & The Papas broke-up in 1968, but reunited sporadically - with various members - from time to time for years afterwards.



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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:53

Last time I remember rain at Long Beach(though someone will obviously correct me)

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Ahh, the PC27. :love: I used to love that car, shame about it's performance though.

#37 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 23:22

Apparently it was a little 'over designed' and made some problems for itself. But was very clever.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:47

Just got back from Long Beach (I'm from San Diego).

It was wet all day. Some serious rain, especially for California. I got some cool pictures of Rubens, and got to meet a bunch of drivers, all of whom were cool. Pictures when I get back from dinner :).

I'm going Sat/Sun also, so I'll take plenty of photos.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:18

As there seems to be nothing on the indycar.com site about anything after first practice, am I to assume that 2ndA & 2ndB practice were rained off - I looked at live timing and saw that only 2 drivers seemed to have appeared on the track..... the rest was silence.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:43

As there seems to be nothing on the indycar.com site about anything after first practice, am I to assume that 2ndA & 2ndB practice were rained off - I looked at live timing and saw that only 2 drivers seemed to have appeared on the track..... the rest was silence.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:56

http://www.latimes.c...0,5988011.story


Ta everso...

#42 Prost1997T

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:03

Dixon aquaplaned into the wall during 2nd practice, but it was only him and Franchitti out there anyway.

#43 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:10

I'd say highlights from practice 2, but that's probably all that happened.

#44 Ali_G

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:18

Last time I remember rain at Long Beach(though someone will obviously correct me)

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Ugly nose on that Penske.

#45 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:33

Ugly nose on that Penske.


I think it's gorgeous. Eye of the beholder and all that.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:08

Actually, it's "The Mamas and the Papas".

And please stop posting pictures and videos of beautiful cars! Watching the practice 1 highlights yesterday, with the new car on a wet Longbeach circuit, made for the dullest racing experience on TV that I've seen in quite some time. Sure, the circumstances were anything but helpful, but the combination of weather and track made the cars look anything but "racey". Every Karting race looks faster...

But then again, FP1 on a wet street track is probably a bit unfair. In fact the racing in the Barber highlights video looked really promising.

Let's hope for a dry track today, with the little running time they had yesterday, the track should be quite busy.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:26

I think it's gorgeous. Eye of the beholder and all that.

I think it looks great too.

Darn sight better than these F1 cars which look backyard contraptions, the rear wing flapping up and down and all out of proportion.

#48 X61

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 13:07

Can someone please tell me where I can follow qualifying? The IndyCar website seems to be designed with the sole intent of hiding important information.

#49 red stick

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 13:10

Ugly nose on that Penske.

Can't agree--the PC-27 was a beautiful car. But, as part of our ongoing discussion of beauty versus speed, just not a particularly successful one.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 13:44

Apparently it was a little 'over designed' and made some problems for itself. But was very clever.


Lack of a good development driver after Paul Tracy was shown the door?

What happened to Penske's chassis team in Poole, once the Captain decided to run Reynards for 2000? I imagine a couple of the designers and constructors and so on were maintained for the extensive development they did on the car, but it must've been a pretty big downsizing. I felt sorry for them.