I don't think our opinions are that far appart, I think we may be misunderstanding each other a bit.
Nobody is talking about refuelling here, you got the wrong thread, this is just about the tyres. I don't want to see refuelling back.
Sorry but this is wrong, look at the results of the last 4 races and tell me which team has the best car/driver package. The results alone tell us all we need to know about what effect the tyres are having on performance.
Your argument seems to be that the tyres are just something that teams need to work with and the best teams have figured out how to do it better, but this is clearly flawed because it changes from race to race. Last race the Mercedes were the team to beat, they took pole and won the race with the RBR left floundering. This week it was exactly the opposite.
That tells us that there is no skill in getting these tyres to work, some teams have not figured it out. All that is happening that depending on the track and the weather conditions come raceday the tyres might work for you or they might not. Why are we having drivers admitting to being surprised that they finished 2nd when it has been a dry race and very few retirements? Surprised? This is F1, nobody should be surprised by finding out they have a quick car come raceday.
I think you agree with most points, certainly your other posts seem to suggest that, so I don't really understand why you are still defending the tyres, especially when you admit they are a gimmick.
I have been watching F1 since the early 80's, back when they were nothing more than fag packets with engines. This is not some kind of romantic dreaming of the good old days though, I cannot remember ever a Formula One season where the tyres were the most important part of the package - it has never happened. Tyres should not be deciding the result of a race, they honestly shouldn't. Technical ability and driver skill should always decide the result of a race. Tyres should be managed and those who manage them better will take advantage, that is fair enough. But this is not about managing tyres at all, this is about the tyres deliberately slowing the cars down and stopping racing from happening.
I am firmly against a spec series, it just isn't F1. But I honestly am beginning to think that a spec series is going to be the only way to save this sport. Some people cannot see this now, and that is fair enough. But if we carry on down this path then this season is going to be remembered as the season when F1 lost the plot big time. Seriously having to resort to stupid gimmicks like DRS and tyres that are designed to turn a race into a lottery is nothing more than a tool to bring in more casual viewers. The simple fact is, and there examples everywhere, whenever a sport or event changes things to try to become more popular they alienate the real fans, the ones who have supported it all along.
I said the best package USSUALLY is ahead, and that's true. We've had a pretty small sample so far with a wet race i between, so, can't really judge so much. However, I am not at all defending these tires, like I said before, they're gimmicky, but, as I said, I'll take it over refuelling. What I do complaint about is Schumacher's point. He says he can't push to the limit, but that's not true, he can, and he will suffer for it, so would anyone else, same as it was before refueling, only it's very exagerated now BECAUSE the tires are gimmicky. My point is that, it's not like he could push to the limit in 91, 92, 93 the whole race either, you see where I'm going? sure, those tires didn't go off after 8 laps, but they did after 20, or 30, depending on how u MANAGED them. I say again, today's tires are gimicky and wear of exageratedly, so, I'm not defending, I'm merely pointing out Schumacher's point shouldn't be that he can't push, rather that the tires are gimmicky, and should last t least 1/3 of the race if managed. That's what he should come out and say, and not make it sound as if in Formula 1 you've always been able to push 100% of the time as it was in the time of his dominance, I'm sure he'd love it to be that way again, it fits him like a glove. I also think the forceful use of both compounds should be abolished, that is also gimmicky.
I've been involved in racing most of my life, retired now, but I actually shared grids with some of the drivers which we discuss in this forum at one point of my life or another. I too remember the good old days, back then, tires may not have been the main topic of discussion on TV, but I assure you, when it wasn't spec tires, it was a VERY imortant part of the equation. Do you remember the time when B'stone was making special tires for Ferrari even having a dedicated employee in Ferrari and vice versa? Tell me that wasn't considered important, and that was during the internet era, and was a very important topic. Tires is one of the most important pieces of the equation. Jarno Trulli won the World Karting CHampionship only when he had special B'stone tires cus he was the main B'stone driver that year. There was a time in Karting when if you raced on Vega tires in a major Karting event you were simply not going to have a shot on race day. Yes, tires are important at any level of racing, and like I said, one of the most important pieces of the puzzle, so, I don't agree when you say it's never been this important, it's aways been as important, it's just that tires have never been as f*ked up as now. I do not agree with your spec series line of thought, the day F1 turns spec as you say is the day I stop watching it.