that never happened -we never saw that kind F1 -it is your fantasy. Maybe, maybe only in 2004 drivers pushed like hell -but was it good season? Sure it was for MS and Scuderia Ferrari. But for everyone else spectators included it wasnt.
Before that cars usually broke down before checquered flag if pushed 100% through the race
look at the atrition rate nowadays. Everybody finishes!!!! Except if they crash or simulate problems if out of points only to change gearbox w/o penalty
So with durable tyres like the ones in 2010 -just imagine the boredom that would be. Vettet lwould be leading wdc with 100 pts in the bag, webbo would be second with 80
do you want that? do you?
All the points you are trying to make are actually arguments against pancake Pirellis.
The super low and undramatic attrition rate nowadays is partly because the cars are driven well within the limits of what they can achieve so nothing really is extended. The test rig probably stresses the parts way more than a GP race.
Your point about 2010 tires is fantasy, compare 2010 with the durable tires and 2011 with Pirellis, which championship was more exciting????
RB had a fast car in 2010, but they had to push to make it count...the car broke down a couple of times, other times other drivers pushing 100% made them make mistakes or made the diff. and got the win.
in 2011, what happened?...everybody started driving purely within the limit of the tires and Vettel cruised all the way.
It wasn't all down to tires sure, but it played a major part.
in 2008 and 2007, we had Bridgestones, but still had the closest WDC battles and most exciting seasons of the last decades or so including some truly awesome races.
The regs already make sure the cars will be close together especially now that flexy wings and EBD overruns are banned. They are the main thing that creates exciting close racing, like we had in 07, 08,09,2010. Top drivers pushing most of the time and making the extra difference.
The novelty of the Pirellis and wacky races is now gone and fans/drivers are starting to realize just how unfulfilling and gimmicky the whole thing is nowadays.
The only time top drivers earn their salary is in qualifying. Rosbergs comments to JB after his China win was probably cos of that, he expected his first GP win to be special knowing he actually did something special on track...but dude was like "this was all rather easy, I got a good start and managed my tires all the way" which is basically all that is required now.
Get a good start, manage your tires...if the car lucks in to the right race day temperatures, it should be a bit quicker than others, then you'd get a good result...if not, sorry next time..hopefully you get good strategy and pitstops and can do some damage limitation.
The novelty of the unpredictability may have been fun at first, but thankfully we are beginning to realize it is rubbish. This is not what F1 has been about, this is not what an elite sport should be about, and this is not what elite sportsmen should be about.
It is like trying to engineer tennis balls, basketballs, golf balls or footballs into something more unpredictable and much less than ideal so that Djokovic, Messi, Kobe Bryant and co would not be able to dominate as much as they used to and the lottery created can now make less talented counterparts have some shine.
Yes, I know F1 historically tinkers around with equipment and rules more than other sports, but we've always accepted the engineering challenges of building a fast car are part of what the sport is about...and the track and tires would always allow for the cars and drivers to flourish to a solid extent. These are the basic requirements, just like a tennis court and a tennis ball, bball court and ball, soccer pitch and ball etc
These are never expected to supersede teams or players and become the main reason for excitement or determinant for championships, that would be super plastic and fake....and it indeed is (which is why tire wars is also wrong)
Tires that you cannot properly race on for more than one lap without losing serious performance are not racing tires.
It is a now a fact that drivers drive flatout more in an endurance race like LeMans than in an F1 race. How the hell can that be right????
Can it be ok for long-distance runner to exert more energy and skill over 200meters in a 5km run than 200meter specialists in a 200 meter race?
What would be the point of having Bolt, Micheal Johnson and co run a 200m race if they would be forced to jog for 180 meters because their running boots can only sustain a 20 meter sprint (if such thing ever existed )?
or would it be ok to have table tennis balls you cannot smash with because they would break and you would lose a point?
This is exactly the scenario the current Pirelli tires introduce to F1. Drivers came up in karting, junior formula etc learning how to extract the max from their equipment, how to push consistently, take corners at max speed possible, overtake etc only to come to F1 to be told
"chill chill chill...you know where you would normally brake? Yes, brake 10 meters earlier if you want to finish this race and have a good result" and so on.
This whole gimmick with super degrading and unpredictable tires is absolutely no worse than having shortcuts, sprinklers and so on on the track. As a matter of fact, you could argue something like a sprinkler creates more of a challenge for drivers hence has more credibility than pancake tires.
I sincerely hope Rosberg and Schumi's comments are the beginning of a serious movement that will turn the sport around from this ridiculous path it has chosen (shame on you M.Whitmarsh and co for championing this bulls**t)
Edited by bauss, 24 April 2012 - 12:23.