Ahh so now you don't know who sheds more,when first you said the Bridgestones do.
Fair enough, I should not have said that.
And seriously to you who cares about the chemical rubber reactions and formulas that cause degradation,all I know is that the Pirellis can not do 3 consecutive fast laps without going to sh**,they leave a ton of marbles creating an one lane track,
These are things that no-one has disputed albeit "overheating" would be more apt than "going to sh**".
As with most things, I don't think we can claim to know the 'what', if we don't if we don't understand the 'why'.
admittedly have confirmed they aren't pushing at all,and the lap times are almost identical throughout the race regardless of fuel loads which correlates with the delta Schu spoke of.
This is patently false. Lap times here (from Bahrain 2012) are colour coded in one second bands.
I don't even know what you're trying to argue by comparing them to Bridgestones who created the perfect racing tire even though it wasn't good for the "SHOW"
One was a Racing tire the other is a SHOW tire,so I don't understand how studying "degradation" will change that fact. The thread derived from Nico's and Schu's comments,not because of the chemical reaction that makes tires degrade.
That is an opinion and we have already had this conversation.
I consider tyres which degrade too slowly to be every bit as imperfect (as in 2010) as those that degrade too quickly (as in 2012). I also think that the biggest problem with the Pirellis is not the rate of degradation in itself, it is that the working range (even last year) is just too narrow for a control tyre.
I explained why I think this is the case in post #827 (to which you responded with "Pirellis will disintegrate regardless of loads,temperatures or setup,they're that bad." Frankly, that demonstrates that you know nothing about tyre dynamics.
The thread did indeed derive from the Mercedes drivers' comments which you and a few others have seized upon as "proof" of "pancake tyres", the "racing is fake" and that they "are driving to a delta". All I have done is to refute some of the 'evidence' that you have posted to that effect.
Edited by Dunder, 29 April 2012 - 21:32.