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#1751 hijinx

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:35

Kovalainen’s F1-career in a period of darkness

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Heikki Kovalainen will drive his F1-career’s 109th GP on Sunday. It looks like it might be his last race. At least the contract with Caterham isn’t even a bit closer than it has been earlier...Continue reading here

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#1752 noikeee

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:59

Meh, I wouldn't mind Glock, Kovalainen, Kobayashi, Petrov, Senna, de la Rosa and Karthikeyan being swapped with rookies like Guiterrez, Frijns, Valsecchi. vd Garde, Calado, Ericsson, Clos, Magnussen, Chilton, Razia and Bottas.


Half of that list of rookies aren't good enough for F1.

Ericsson was a huge let down in GP2. van der Garde a disappointment almost every season in single seaters really, bar that WSR winning year. Clos was never quick, only solid at his best. Chilton nowhere near good enough except for some progress this season even then hardly convincing. Valsecchi and Razia have come good now and maybe - MAYBE - deserve a shot, but showed very little every year until now.

I'm all up for trying new drivers sure... but only as long as they're actually promising.

#1753 artista

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:06

Not a surprise, but Sauber has officially confirmed Esteban Gutiérrez as driver and Frijns as reserve driver:

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our driver line-up is set for 2013: @EstebanGtz is confirmed as our second driver alongside #HUL. @RFrijns becomes test and reserve driver.



#1754 swerved

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:10

Charl Pic confirmed at Caterham apparently.

#1755 kosmos

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:10

So what about Kamui?, reserve driver for Sauber or he is done with F1?. I remember like yesterday when Kamui was like the next best thing, too bad that things didn't turn well.

#1756 seahawk

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:11

Frijns is the reserve driver at Sauber.

#1757 skywing

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:12

@MyCaterhamF1: Charles Pic confirmed as Caterham F1 Team race driver on a multi-year deal

#1758 Rob

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:18

Esteban Tuero...that would be awesome :clap:

For some reason Murray Walker kept referring to him as Ernesto on air. :)

#1759 fatd

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:21

Not a surprise, but Sauber has officially confirmed Esteban Gutiérrez as driver and Frijns as reserve driver:


Does it mean it's officially sayonara Kamui now? :cry: :cry:

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#1760 Zoetrope

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:27

Kamui will be back one day. He deserves it!

#1761 Fastcake

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:27

Well it's all starting to wind up now. Shame for Kamui though, I don't think he's going to be able to get another seat as he seems to have no budget. But Gutierrez does deserve the opportunity so it's not all bad. Pic deserves to stay too, not sure why he sidestepped to Caterham, unless Marussia already finalised drivers some time back.

So what's left? I'm guessing Grosjean confirmed at Lotus, Maldonado and Bottas at Williams, Di Resta and someone at Force India and Glock and Chilton at Marussia. HRT is almost certainly gone.

#1762 skywing

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:29

Well it's all starting to wind up now. Shame for Kamui though, I don't think he's going to be able to get another seat as he seems to have no budget. But Gutierrez does deserve the opportunity so it's not all bad. Pic deserves to stay too, not sure why he sidestepped to Caterham, unless Marussia already finalised drivers some time back.

So what's left? I'm guessing Grosjean confirmed at Lotus, Maldonado and Bottas at Williams, Di Resta and someone at Force India and Glock and Chilton at Marussia. HRT is almost certainly gone.

Another spot at Caterham too.

#1763 lustigson

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:30

Guttiérez (Sauber) and Pic (Caterham) now confirmed.

Red Bull Racing
Red Bull Racing RB9 – Renault RS27-2013
Team Principal: Christian Horner; Technical Director: Adrian Newey
1. Sebastian Vettel (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
2. Mark Webber (another one-year deal)

Scuderia Ferrari
Ferrari F2013 – Ferrari 056
Team Principal: Stefano Domenicali ; Technical Director: Pat Fry
3. Fernando Alonso (contracted through '16)
4. Felipe Massa (stays on for yet another season)

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
McLaren MP4-28 – Mercedes FO108Z1
Team Principal: Martin Whitmarsh ; Technical Director: Paddy Lowe, Neil Oatley
5. Jenson Button (contracted through '13 with option for '14)
6. Sergio Pérez (on a multi-year contract)

Lotus F1 Team
Lotus E21 – Renault RS27-2013
Team Principal: Eric Boullier ; Technical Director: James Allison
7. Kimi Räikkönen (contracted through '13)
8. Romain Grosjean (current driver; all but confirmed by Boullier prior to Korean GP)
Jerôme d'Ambrosio (current reserve driver; did one GP in Grosjean's place)

Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team
Mercedes F1 W04 – Mercedes FO108Z1
Team Principal: Ross Brawn ; Technical Director: Bob Bell
9. Nico Rosberg (on a multi-year deal beyond '13)
10. Lewis Hamilton (signed for '13-'15)

Sauber F1 Team
Sauber C32 – Ferrari 056
Team Principal: Monisha Kaltenborn ; Chief Designer: Matt Morris
11. Nico Hülkenberg (confirmed)
12. Esteban Gutiérrez (confirmed)

Sahara Force India F1 Team
Force India VJM06 – Mercedes FO108Z
Team Principal: Vijay Mallya ; Technical Director: Andrew Green
14. Paul Di Resta (current driver; has a long-term deal, according to Wikipedia)
15. Jaime Alguersuari (rumoured)
Jules Bianchi (test driver and Ferrari junior programme member; said by Mallya to be in the frame)
Adrian Sutil (rumoured; former driver)
Bruno Senna (rumoured)
Sébastien Buemi (rumoured)
Kamui Kobayashi (rumoured)
Vitaly Petrov (rumoured)

Williams F1 Team
Williams FW35 – Renault RS27-2013
Team Principal: Frank Williams ; Technical Director: Mike Coughlan
16. Pastor Maldonado (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
17. Bruno Senna (current driver; not having as good a year as his team-mate)
Valtteri Bottas (test driver; allegedly being groomed for the seat)

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Toro Rosso STR8 – Ferrari 056
Team Principal: Franz Tost ; Technical Director: James Key
18. Daniel Ricciardo (confirmed)
19. Jean-Éric Vergne (confirmed)

Marussia F1 Team
Marussia MR02 – Cosworth CA2013
Team Principal: John Booth ; Technical Director: Pat Symonds
20. Timo Glock (contract through '14)
21. Max Chilton (current reserve driver, finished 4th in 2012 GP2 series)

Caterham F1 Team
Caterham CT02 – Renault RS27-2013
Team Principal: Cyril Abiteboul ; Technical Director: Mark Smith
22. Heikki Kovalainen (current driver; has stated that he wants to joing higher-ranking team for '13)
Giedo van der Garde (Caterham GP2 driver, said to have an F1 deal based on GP2 performance)
Vitaly Petrov (current driver; possibly on 2-year deal)
Jaime Alguersuari (rumoured)
Sébastien Buemi (rumoured)
23. Charles Pic (confirmed; long-term deal)

HRT F1 Team (team is up for sale; rumour has it that they're closing shop)
HRT F113 – Cosworth CA2013
Team Principal: Luis Pérez-Sala ; Technical Director: Toni Cuquerella
24. Pedro de la Rosa (contracted through '13)
25. Narain Karthikeyan (current driver)
Dani Clos (rumoured)

#1764 CrossF1

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:39

Will Buxton is tweeting that Force India's seat is between Bianchi and Senna....

#1765 Elloh

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:44

Will Buxton is tweeting that Force India's seat is between Bianchi and Senna....


So Bottas to Williams then?

#1766 KingB

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:45

Will Buxton is tweeting that Force India's seat is between Bianchi and Senna....

that would be a massive massive disappointment

#1767 Disgrace

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:46

Bianchi and Guttierez in F1 next year? If you thought Grosjean was bad... ;)

#1768 BackmarkerUK

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:51

Bianchi and Guttierez in F1 next year? If you thought Grosjean was bad...;)


It will also be disappointing if Bianchi and Gutierrez who have won nothing since 2009 and 2010 respectively make it to F1 ahead of drivers like Robin Frijns. I understand that it's how the system works, but still...

Could Frijns do DTM in combination with F1 testing, in order to hone his racecraft?

#1769 F1ultimate

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:55

Will Buxton is tweeting that Force India's seat is between Bianchi and Senna....


Please no, just no. No sub-par driver like him deserves a chance at a fourth team. This has to stop.

#1770 KavB

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 12:33

Please no, just no. No sub-par driver like him deserves a chance at a fourth team. This has to stop.

I know! Why does such a below average driver receive so many chances when we have decent drivers getting booted out! Please Force India, I respect you a lot.. Take a good driver like Sutil, Jaime, Kobayashi. Anyone who has shown some promise!

#1771 Jimisgod

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 13:14

I know! Why does such a below average driver receive so many chances when we have decent drivers getting booted out! Please Force India, I respect you a lot.. Take a good driver like Sutil, Jaime, Kobayashi. Anyone who has shown some promise!


:up: Totally squandered that Williams. I don't doubt Pastor is fast, but judging by Pastor's 2011, any of those 3 drivers could have delivered more points and maybe even another few podiums in the Williams - and certainly eclipsed Senna, who struggled to beat Q1.

So FI will have a driver not at the level of Hulkenberg (Di Resta) and either a troublesome rookie, or one of the least impressive drivers in recent years? Not good for 2013.

Edited by Jimisgod, 23 November 2012 - 13:16.


#1772 PayasYouRace

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 13:21

Nice to see that the 2nd Marussia/Virgin seat doesn't hold you back in F1. Well done Pic!

#1773 Don_Humpador

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 13:28

Nice to see that the 2nd Marussia/Virgin seat doesn't hold you back in F1. Well done Pic!

Is it really a step forward?

Marussia seem to be making progress and will probably end the season in front in the WCC. :well:

#1774 Dolph

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 13:48

So what about Kamui?, reserve driver for Sauber or he is done with F1?. I remember like yesterday when Kamui was like the next best thing, too bad that things didn't turn well.


Kamui was never the next big thing. He put on a fantastic show in 2009 Brazilian GP. That's about it. There has been some consistent points scoring, but never the "next big thing" like.

#1775 PayasYouRace

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 13:59

Is it really a step forward?

Marussia seem to be making progress and will probably end the season in front in the WCC. :well:


Pic - Multi-year deal in another team.
di Grassi/D'Ambrosio? (I don't mean this as a slight against either driver. I feel they were slightly hard done by by having the 2nd seat in that team.)

Sure he's not stepping up the grid much, but he's been given the opportunity to have a second season and hopefully impress a bit more.

As it is, I still see Caterham as being a bit in front. Singapore was the only time this year that a Marussia finished first out of the 2 teams. It just happened to be the highest placing either team achieved.

Edited by PayasYouRace, 23 November 2012 - 14:09.


#1776 lustigson

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 14:00

Is it really a step forward?

Marussia seem to be making progress and will probably end the season in front in the WCC. :well:

I think it is.

Marussia have a single 12th place and 3 14th places, with an average finishing position of 17,7 plus 6 retirements. Caterham have 3 13th and 3 14th places with an average finishing position of 16,7 and 3 retirements.

Not a huge step, but a step nonetheless.

Edited by lustigson, 23 November 2012 - 14:05.


#1777 TFLB

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 14:49

I think it is.

Marussia have a single 12th place and 3 14th places, with an average finishing position of 17,7 plus 6 retirements. Caterham have 3 13th and 3 14th places with an average finishing position of 16,7 and 3 retirements.

Not a huge step, but a step nonetheless.

In the second half of the season the Marussias have often been very close to the pace of the Caterhams. Next year, with KERS, they should be faster.

#1778 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 15:02

Force India 2013: Sutil / Senna you heard it here first.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 15:23

Force India 2013: Sutil / Senna you heard it here first.

Love to see this happen but I think Paul Di Resta will be in one of the seats.

By the way, was that a prediction or from a source?

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#1780 David Lightman

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 15:24

I'd laugh so hard if Di Resta ended up with no drive.

#1781 sesku

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 15:32

In the second half of the season the Marussias have often been very close to the pace of the Caterhams. Next year, with KERS, they should be faster.

It's not like adding KERS will make car faster straight away as Caterham CT-01 prove this year.

Edited by sesku, 23 November 2012 - 15:33.


#1782 Risil

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 17:26

I'd laugh so hard if Di Resta ended up with no drive.


Why's that?

#1783 ed24f1

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 17:41

Maybe di Resta can be the sub that comes in when Sutil's not allowed in a country? :p

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 17:43

Good to get confirmation on Pic to Caterham. That is a step up for him, and for the team. Now extend with Petrov and the line-up for next year is a very good one.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 19:30

Good to get confirmation on Pic to Caterham. That is a step up for him, and for the team. Now extend with Petrov and the line-up for next year is a very good one.

Petrov has ruled himself out: no more money coming in.

#1786 race addicted

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 19:33

He has? Completely? His manager implied that there was sponsors on the way, so I had high hopes this would work out.

#1787 Rosberg

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 19:35

I'm sure Vitaly's manager said he will race in Russia at 2014. Looks like Van Der Garde will get the drive then.

#1788 Tufty

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 19:39

He has? Completely? His manager implied that there was sponsors on the way, so I had high hopes this would work out.


I seem to recall that she said she wasn't even bothering to negotiate due to lack of funds. As much as I like Petrov, I don't think we'll have the pleasure of him on the grid much longer.

I'm sure Vitaly's manager said he will race in Russia at 2014. Looks like Van Der Garde will get the drive then.

That's where my money would be, to be honest, although a one-off drive in Russia wouldn't surprise me.

#1789 Clatter

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 19:40

I seem to recall that she said she wasn't even bothering to negotiate due to lack of funds. As much as I like Petrov, I don't think we'll have the pleasure of him on the grid much longer.


That's where my money would be, to be honest, although a one-off drive in Russia wouldn't surprise me.


If that's true then it's time to change managers.


#1790 race addicted

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 19:42

That's a huge shame. It's gone over my head that he isn't even in the running.
... and how realistic is it that he'll come back for '14? He's very good, but he isn't of such calibre that the teams will trip over themselves to secure him.

#1791 BiH

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 19:56

Love to see this happen but I think Paul Di Resta will be in one of the seats.

By the way, was that a prediction or from a source?



Today Speed was saying same thing, Paul is about to lose Force India seat.

How does that work, from candidate at McLaren to no drive.

Doesn't Paul have sponsorship.

#1792 Dolph

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 21:04

Today Speed was saying same thing, Paul is about to lose Force India seat.

How does that work, from candidate at McLaren to no drive.

Doesn't Paul have sponsorship.


Its exactly the same that happened to Sutil

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 21:07

Am I the only one wondering what has happened to Formula 1? Many talented drivers are kicked out of F1 to make space for drivers who just buy their seats. I'd like this to be a pinnacle of racing where the best teams and fastest drivers battle to see how takes the crown. Now half of the grid is filled with mediocre drivers who are there just because they have lots of money. Is this really the direction where this sport is going?

Edited by chris72, 23 November 2012 - 21:08.


#1794 Shiroo

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 21:12

imo Petrov might be on move to Marussia. Russian team with Russian driver during Russian race?

#1795 Rosberg

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 21:20

Has anyone got the link to Di Resta apparently being left out by Force India?

#1796 David Lightman

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 21:28

Why's that?

Because as I've said before I don't think he deserves a place in F1. He's average in the car and a waste of space out of it.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 21:28

Am I the only one wondering what has happened to Formula 1? Many talented drivers are kicked out of F1 to make space for drivers who just buy their seats. I'd like this to be a pinnacle of racing where the best teams and fastest drivers battle to see how takes the crown. Now half of the grid is filled with mediocre drivers who are there just because they have lots of money. Is this really the direction where this sport is going?


What do you mean heading? Apart from a brief lull when the manufacturers dominated the grid, there have always been pay drivers depriving others of seats. It's not ideal but we've got to consider ourselves lucky we no longer have the truly awful Ide's guys anymore.

#1798 Rosberg

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 21:52

I'm sure Paul Di Resta will stay at Force India, they (Force India) seemed confident he's staying like two months ago, might of changed by then but who knows?

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 22:45

Any chance of Kobayashi going to Force India? You put him down as "rumoured", where did the rumour come from?

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:11

I'm sure Vitaly's manager said he will race in Russia at 2014. Looks like Van Der Garde will get the drive then.


Yuck. At least Gutiérrez has shown flashes of great pace, balanced with shooting himself in the foot more than occasionally, this guy has done nothing at all in GP2 other than stay as long as the money lasts. That move would be much more annoying.