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#1801 Rosberg

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:13

Thank god for pre-season testing because all the teams want the drivers to be as comfortable as they can and do good high and low fuel runs.

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#1802 Bloggsworth

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:20

Why has no-one signed Felix de Costa?

#1803 Rosberg

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:22

Why has no-one signed Felix de Costa?

I got a feeling Toro Rosso may sign him as the reserve driver and put him in 1st Practice sessions but Luiz Razia has been in the Toro Rosso pits this weekend.

#1804 wattoroos

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:30

Why has no-one signed Felix de Costa?

Probably because talent isn't important as money to some teams, he will make into F1 in the future though

#1805 Disgrace

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:31

Why has no-one signed Felix de Costa?


It's too soon in my opinion, let's see if he can put a championship season together. Also, it's too soon to get rid of either STR driver.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:35

I got a feeling Toro Rosso may sign him as the reserve driver and put him in 1st Practice sessions but Luiz Razia has been in the Toro Rosso pits this weekend.


Razia is not a Red Bull driver, nor will he be anyone's F1 driver, de Costa is. We know how this works by now people, Toro Rosso only signs Red Bull junior drivers when they're ready or the existing pair are not adequate.

#1807 Rosberg

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 23:41

Razia is not a Red Bull driver, nor will he be anyone's F1 driver, de Costa is. We know how this works by now people, Toro Rosso only signs Red Bull junior drivers when they're ready or the existing pair are not adequate.

So how come he's at the pits in Sao Paulo with the Toro Rosso team? He did do the Abu Dhabi test with them.

#1808 Zedderick

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 00:00

Petrov hasn't ruled himself out of Caterham just yet.

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According to this article the funding he needs hinges on whether his manager can persuade Russian Helicopters to sponsor him for another year. My take on the situation is that previous stories of money-worries are not as terminal as they seemed back in September but it still seems like it can easily go either way. :|

#1809 race addicted

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:55

That's good news.
Is Kevin Magnussen under McLaren's wings now?

Edit - Yes, he is. :)

Edited by race addicted, 24 November 2012 - 09:25.


#1810 Bloggsworth

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:17

It's too soon in my opinion, let's see if he can put a championship season together. Also, it's too soon to get rid of either STR driver.



To do that would be to waste him - If he, next season, has rubbish mechanics and he doesn't win, that will be him finished and not his fault. No-one waited for Button to have a championship season, nor Alonso IIRC. De Costa has driven in two series this year and has won in both, he obviously has no trouble adapting to new cars, he is clearly simpatico - I would snap him up in a minute. I have my doubts about Guittierez for the long term, he may be a one season driver.

#1811 noikeee

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:48

Why has no-one signed Felix de Costa?


Because he has already signed with Red Bull, and Red Bull don't want to rush him whilst also giving a fairer shot to Ricciardo and Vergne.

I think it's a good decision for him and for all parts.

#1812 Zava

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 14:58

this comes as a big surprise:

Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener
#F1 Valtteri #Bottas has secured his seat at @WilliamsF1Team for 2013 AMuS has learned. @BSenna is out. Story: http://bit.ly/UCkM4N

#1813 race addicted

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:02

Irony, yes?

#1814 Zava

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:25

Irony, yes?

yup, but this one isn't:
Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener
#F1 @BSenna with 10 milllion dollar sponsor money. @luizrazia with 34m $ backing. Nobody interested apparently.

34 million $ sponsor money for Razia? what the hell? :eek:

#1815 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:28

Petrov hasn't ruled himself out of Caterham just yet.

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According to this article the funding he needs hinges on whether his manager can persuade Russian Helicopters to sponsor him for another year. My take on the situation is that previous stories of money-worries are not as terminal as they seemed back in September but it still seems like it can easily go either way. :|

No chance. Van der Garde looks set to partner Pic next year. Contract is all but signed. He's got a lot more backing than Petrov anyway.

To do that would be to waste him - If he, next season, has rubbish mechanics and he doesn't win, that will be him finished and not his fault. No-one waited for Button to have a championship season, nor Alonso IIRC. De Costa has driven in two series this year and has won in both, he obviously has no trouble adapting to new cars, he is clearly simpatico - I would snap him up in a minute. I have my doubts about Guittierez for the long term, he may be a one season driver.

Don't understimate him. He was mighty in Formula BMW back in 2008, though that is four years ago. I believe he was even more impressive than Vettel was in Formula BMW.

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 24 November 2012 - 15:29.


#1816 race addicted

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:33

yup, but this one isn't:
Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener
#F1 @BSenna with 10 milllion dollar sponsor money. @luizrazia with 34m $ backing. Nobody interested apparently.

34 million $ sponsor money for Razia? what the hell? :eek:


Wow, that's Maldonado/PDVSA-territory! No-one has faith in him then.

#1817 TheUltimateWorrier

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:36

Irony, yes?

How is Bottas having a seat next year ironic? :confused:

Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener
#F1 @BSenna with 10 milllion dollar sponsor money. @luizrazia with 34m $ backing. Nobody interested apparently.

34 million $ sponsor money for Razia? what the hell? :eek:

I'm surprised by that, I'd much rather see Razia/Bianchi/Alguersuari with Force India than Adrian Sutil. Sutil back with Force India would be a waste of a seat.

Here's a thought, why don't Senna and Razia's sponsors put their money together and buy HRT becoming Brasilia Hispania Racing :lol: .

#1818 Francesc

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:38

Wow, that's Maldonado/PDVSA-territory! No-one has faith in him then.


Really big sum there from Razia. Is he that bad?

#1819 race addicted

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:39

How is Bottas having a seat next year ironic? :confused:



Haha, no man, you misunderstood. I was asking for confirmation that it was supposed to be a big surprise that Bottas would get the seat. We've known since early spring.

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#1820 TheUltimateWorrier

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:41

Ah my bad, F1s worst kept secret :stoned:

#1821 race addicted

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:42

:)

#1822 highdownforce

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:51

yup, but this one isn't:
Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener
#F1 @BSenna with 10 milllion dollar sponsor money. @luizrazia with 34m $ backing. Nobody interested apparently.

34 million $ sponsor money for Razia? what the hell? :eek:


No way, Razia doesn't have this money.
As a side note I've read today that Bruno was offered 5 millions from AshleyMadison.com . But he'd have to wear a Pink helmet.

#1823 billm99uk

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:51

Am I the only one wondering what has happened to Formula 1? Many talented drivers are kicked out of F1 to make space for drivers who just buy their seats. I'd like this to be a pinnacle of racing where the best teams and fastest drivers battle to see how takes the crown. Now half of the grid is filled with mediocre drivers who are there just because they have lots of money. Is this really the direction where this sport is going?


You should have been around in the 80's. Sometimes seemed like half the grid was made up of marginally-talented but extremely well heeled Italians :p


#1824 jals99

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:20

No chance. Van der Garde looks set to partner Pic next year. Contract is all but signed. He's got a lot more backing than Petrov anyway.


Don't understimate him. He was mighty in Formula BMW back in 2008, though that is four years ago. I believe he was even more impressive than Vettel was in Formula BMW.

AMUS reported today that Vitaly got new sponsors, and is now back in the fight with Giedo
Omnicorse reported Vitaly could sign contract tomorrow :)
http://www.auto-moto...na-6180552.html
http://www.omnicorse...con-la-caterham


#1825 marcoferrari

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:46

How is Bottas having a seat next year ironic? :confused:


I'm surprised by that, I'd much rather see Razia/Bianchi/Alguersuari with Force India than Adrian Sutil. Sutil back with Force India would be a waste of a seat.

Here's a thought, why don't Senna and Razia's sponsors put their money together and buy HRT becoming Brasilia Hispania Racing :lol: .


First of all, waste of a seat is Di Resta... He is on his way to loose an internal team battle yet again!

#1826 KateLM

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 19:08

I'd take that Razia figure with a massive pinch of salt, where on earth would he get that sort of figure from? Obviously he has to be well backed to have bought his test drives for the past few years, but that sounds too inflated to me. I can't believe that the likes of Marussia wouldn't bite his arm off for that sort of deal.

To do that would be to waste him - If he, next season, has rubbish mechanics and he doesn't win, that will be him finished and not his fault. No-one waited for Button to have a championship season, nor Alonso IIRC. De Costa has driven in two series this year and has won in both, he obviously has no trouble adapting to new cars, he is clearly simpatico - I would snap him up in a minute. I have my doubts about Guittierez for the long term, he may be a one season driver.

Only one of those series was a direct F1 feeder, and he only did half a year in that one. GP3 is a much bigger jump. It's refreshing that for once Red Bull aren't rushing someone up the ranks, he doesn't need to be in F1 next year. And it's not like another team can sign him anyway, he's contracted to Red Bull.

He'll most likely stick with the team he's with, and considering he's already taken 4 wins with them (one admittedly due to Magnussen's misfortune) then the rubbish mechanics excuse won't fly. A full season with the pressure of championship expectation will show Red Bull and himself what he's made of, he arguably hasn't had that for a few years now so it will be good for him in the long run.

#1827 Fastcake

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 19:57

I'd take that Razia figure with a massive pinch of salt, where on earth would he get that sort of figure from? Obviously he has to be well backed to have bought his test drives for the past few years, but that sounds too inflated to me. I can't believe that the likes of Marussia wouldn't bite his arm off for that sort of deal.


Agreed. If Razia had that sort of budget he would be signed already. He's got enough money to stick around in GP2 and buy a couple of test drives, and some of those he got from Caterham because he was their GP2 driver.

Edit: Woop 4000 posts. How on earth have I posted that much twaddle? :D

Edited by Fastcake, 24 November 2012 - 20:06.


#1828 D.M.N.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 11:41

Minor formality for Red Bull:

Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1
Interesting news as RBR will offically be known as Infiniti Red Bull Racing next year
11:38 AM - 25 Nov 12

#1829 eronrules

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:22

F1 - Lotus yet to take Grosjean ’decision’ for 2013 - Lopez


The buzz in the Interlagos paddock has been that Lotus is pursuing a high-profile figure for 2013, just as it did when it brought Raikkonen back from a rallying sabbatical this season.

One name mentioned a few times has been Robert Kubica’s, even though the talented Pole is saying openly that his injuries are still preventing him from driving a single seater.

And Lopez told Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport: "There is no ’Kimi’ on the market right n



any idea who this ''high profile figure'' might be???

#1830 jee

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:27

Maldonado

#1831 TheUltimateWorrier

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:27

any idea who this ''high profile figure'' might be???

Well the only two 'high profile' names who are available are Schumacher and Villeneuve :lol:

#1832 alfa1

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:29

any idea who this ''high profile figure'' might be???


"High profile" driver on the market?
Please please dont say its Michael Schumacher.
Let him retire.






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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:29

I'm positive it won't be but i'd love it to be Rubens. It may be nostalgia but I still think he's a better driver than a good chunk of the grid.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:36

I'm positive it won't be but i'd love it to be Rubens. It may be nostalgia but I still think he's a better driver than a good chunk of the grid.



the only ' high profile figure ' with bucks IMO is Adrian Sutil , but seeing his past history with Lopez, i doubt it. and Kubica is just not ready , but strangest things have happened in the past ... so let's see (although i'd love to see either kovi or koba in Grosjeans seat ... he's damn fast, but not good enough to be in 2nd lotus seat IMHO)

#1835 KingB

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:39

"High profile" driver on the market?
Please please dont say its Michael Schumacher.
Let him retire.

No, Schumacher said to the Bild am Sonntag today: "I won't drive F1 anymore. And neither NASCAR nor IndyCar."
But I thought I read, that Lotus won't kick Grosjean. So this piece of news is new to me.

#1836 TheUltimateWorrier

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:44

the only ' high profile figure ' with bucks IMO is Adrian Sutil

Is Sutil a 'high profile figure' though? :well:

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:48

Is Sutil a 'high profile figure' though? :well:

Not really, I think.

On the other hand, I remember that HRT said at some point of the 2010 that they were going to hire and experienced driver for a 3rd driver role who was going to be a benchmark for their 2 rookies (Senna and Chandhok) and who would help them to develop the car during friday runnings.

As it turned out later, this experienced benchmark was Sakon Yamamoto.

Rumours are rumours and they tend to be exaggerated.

#1838 f1rookie

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 13:35


Red Bull Racing renamed 'Infiniti Red Bull Racing' from 2013

http://www.redbullra...021243288541705

#1839 Fastcake

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 14:04

Red Bull Racing renamed 'Infiniti Red Bull Racing' from 2013

http://www.redbullra...021243288541705


Meh, Red Bull Infiniti sounded better.

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#1840 THE "driverider"

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 14:21

Would be only too good for Lotus to sign Kubica, won't happen though.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 14:40

F1 - Lotus yet to take Grosjean ’decision’ for 2013 - Lopez
any idea who this ''high profile figure'' might be???


Pastor or Bruno

#1842 Shiroo

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 14:56

Pastor or Bruno

No frickin way that they will bring Bruno. They had him in 2011, he sucked big time, slow in quali slow in race, Petrov was way more amazing than he was

#1843 fisssssi

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:09

Must be Kubica??

#1844 Shiroo

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:14

Must be Kubica??

He is not capable of driving F1 car

#1845 F1ultimate

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:18

Hopefully Kobayashi. Like Grosjean he is an excellent qualifier and can drive a aggressively. However Kobayashi is less crash prone.

#1846 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:20

Barrichello to Caterham

#1847 silencer

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:26

Barrichello to Caterham


damn... I guess we still need 1 or 2 old man on the grid

#1848 Anja

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:26

I don't think Rubens would be so desperate in search for F1 seat.

#1849 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:30

http://www.crash.net...rham_talks.html

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 15:37

Kubica will never return to F1.