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#1 tsrwright

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 23:59

Can anyone identify this mystery Cooper #18 and driver (on left) which appeared on Facebook recently. It's not in any of the record books nor a list I have of twins in libre races. It's 1951 or later (the car is a Mk5,6 or 7)and maybe Silverstone.


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#2 CiroMenotti

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:04

Can anyone identify this mystery Cooper #18 and driver (on left) which appeared on Facebook recently. It's not in any of the record books nor a list I have of twins in libre races. It's 1951 or later (the car is a Mk5,6 or 7)and maybe Silverstone.

That certainly does not look like Silverstone.
Given the crowds and the substantial commentary boxes it must be a major meeting, but where?
I don't think it is Boreham.
An early Oulton Park?


#3 Ted Walker

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:11

It looks a bit Mallory Park ish ?????

#4 bradbury west

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:55

Small world. I believe it is at Crystal Palace in 1955, and is a Henry Grant photograph. The only reason I know is because it is the front cover of a recent birthday card sent to me. No other car details are given. It is marked copyright Henry Grant collection/Museum of London, museumoflondon.org.uk. It makes you wonder just how many other racing shots are there.
Perhaps Palace-meister-historian RAP can identify the car and driver.
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#5 David McKinney

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:03

Thanks Roger

I'll ask

#6 Tim Murray

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:11

Google throws up several sites which confirm Roger's statement, eg:

http://www.20thcentu...k/mol-hg1512-12

http://www.museumofl...palace-1955.htm

but sadly with no identification of the participants.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:47

There seems to have been a meeting on 31st July at Crystal Palace: Meeting Report

This date seems to be as close to August (as per the Museum of London information) as you'll get.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 14:41

Richard Page's two-volume book on Crystal Palace does not throw up any obvious candidates as #18 at 1955 meetings.

But in 1954 there were at least two mixed races where Cooper twins raced against cars up to 2000cc or 2500cc unsupercharged.
At the 19th June 1954 meeting Les Leston in his 1098cc Cooper-JAP was No. 18.
At the 2nd August 1954 meeting Ron Searles in his Cooper-JAP was No. 18.
So one of those could be the car in question......

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 15:17

Confirmation here: August 1954

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#10 Tim Murray

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 15:45

The first link I posted above mentions 'this August Bank Holiday' which would seem to tie in.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 16:02

The first link I posted above mentions 'this August Bank Holiday' which would seem to tie in.


A bit of a puzzle picture!. It looks like the grid for heat 1 and that looks like Keith Hall's Cooper-Bristol on the outside of the front row. Horace Richards H.A.R can also be seen. But Ron Searle was actually in Heat 2. Could this have been the final perhaps?. I actually saw that race and recall many things from the meeting, one of them being that it included one of the best, most hard fought 500cc races that I saw. Sadly, I cant remember much about the race in the photograph except that Reg Parnell was the winner in his Ferrari. Oh for a history of 1950's British Formula Libre racing!.

#12 David McKinney

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 17:31

But Ron Searle was actually in Heat 2. Could this have been the final perhaps?

Searle is down as a DNQ for the final


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Posted 08 May 2012 - 20:19

I can see Tony Crooks in his Cooper Bristol in front of the Cooper-JAP which could confirm Heat 2.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 01:40

Really grateful for the response. I see now a flaw in my search for big-twin Cooper events. The F1 register records were kindly supplemented by Richard Page who gave me a listing of formula libre events. Obviously events with capacity limits such as the one at CP would not appear on my radar.

Ron Searles does appear as a very small blip starting Castle Combe 3.4.54, Oulton Park 10.7.54, Castle Combe ?.8.54 and Snetterton 9.12.54 (?) and that seems to have been enough for him. Information on any other sightings or the man himself would be appreciated.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:29

He was then or a little later on the staff of the Cooper Car Co, and was also involved in speed-record attempt with Arthur Owen, Bill Knight etc. He also rebuilt the Tony Crook sports Cooper-Bristol into a Rover-engined single-seater with Alta bodywork. When the Cooper school was set up in 1957 Searle was appointed chief instructor, but was killed in a record attempt at Monza soon afterwards

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 08:33

He was then or a little later on the staff of the Cooper Car Co, and was also involved in speed-record attempt with Arthur Owen, Bill Knight etc. He also rebuilt the Tony Crook sports Cooper-Bristol into a Rover-engined single-seater with Alta bodywork. When the Cooper school was set up in 1957 Searle was appointed chief instructor, but was killed in a record attempt at Monza soon afterwards


Perhaps he had a company car?

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 15:55

Terry,
I can confirm that the image is Ron Searles (in the helmet) . With David's prodding, I've found him in an image at Surbiton, 1954 (handing over the Mk V streamliner to Californian John Fox), and in Pathe footage of the Cooper Racing School at Brands in 1957 (file 2990_05 if anyone's interested, Ron is the first driver).
I only see the JAP-Twin car through 1954. Given the timings, it's possible it was a lease or some sort of deal to borrow from the factory. To correct your notes, the castle Combe race was 28/08/1954 and the Snetterton one 9/10/1954.

Ron appears very briefly in the Formula III record, over the Whit weekend, May 1956. He is listed as the entrant for I Dudley (Cooper-JAP, Brands Hatch, 20th May) and DOA Johnson (Cooper-JAP on the 20th May, Cooper Norton at Crystal Palace, 21st May). Dudley's name only comes up one other time (December 1955, Cooper JAP). DOA Johnson was already running the ex-Brandon Mk VII with a Norton engine (the image is definitely not that car) and would presumably have used that car at these two events. So I'm not sure where Ron comes into this.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 13:46

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Here's another one. This is Peter Gaskell at Shelsley June 1959 in a nicely rebodied Cooper which he ran that year. It was pale blue. Peter died a few years ago and his wife doesn't know anything about the car. Strangely Peter's best mate Mike Hatton doesn't seem to know anything about it either nor do various others. Any info welcome.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 13:58

By sheer coincidence I've just received in the post a Programme bought on E-bay of the Crystal Palace meeting for 19th June 1954.

Ron Searles is entered in Heat 1 of the Crystal Palace Trophy as No.16 , but is the entrant and the nominated driver is O.E.Simpson. The entry was scratched, according to the notes in the programme.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 15:45

Re: Peter Gaskell, I think something's wrong.
It's clearly Shelsley, and a Cooper Twin, but the numbers don't seem to match up. 14th June, Peter ran Car 29 (Cooper JAP 1100cc in the programme). The number on the bonnet panel seems wrong. I can't make it out fully, but it seems to be a 'curly' number like a 3 or 8, and a 'straight' number, like a 1 or 7. On the 14th, Twins made up 18-36 and I'd guess that would mean 31, PHG Cottrell (Cooper-JAP 998cc), given that it's not Wally Cuff's 34 Cooper. I have what I believe is an erroneous report for 20th June (I presume it's the 14th) referring to it being very hot and the tarmac melting. The image sort of matches. The little I have on Peter Gaskell is that by 1962 he is in a Mk VIII-Twin, so I am leaning towards that being Cottrell. I have nothing on him, except he comes from Pontypridd.

The alternative event is 30th August. I have only 500 entries, but numbering would place the Twins in the same area - perhaps 17-40. So it would still probably be 31 or 34. Can you get a better guess of the car number?

As to the car itself. Well it has Mk III or Mk IV bodywork at the front. It has the rear dampers behind the spring (notionally a Mk IV trait), but if anything I'd suggest the front suspension were Mk III. The bodywork, though is a real problem. It looks to me like it's all non-standard:
- Cockpit side panels seem to include the lower part of the engine cover and be reprofiled
- Bonnet/scuttle looks slightly different, possibly taller, and there's no fuel filler
- The engine cover looks a lot sleeker and lower than standard, and there are no fillers on it.
- I've seen a similar nose on the Scott Bloor car, but I'm confident it's not that car. This version looks sleeker. Otherwise, I've not seen one like it.
I may be wrong, but it looks to me like it has all been repanelled, using the original metal as a template, but considerable changes to style it for hillclimbing (smaller/non-existant fuel tanks, less accessibility)

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 18:04

My only contribution would be, didn't Gaskell and Hatton share cars for several years?

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 18:22

Ron Searles does appear as a very small blip starting Castle Combe 3.4.54, Oulton Park 10.7.54, Castle Combe ?.8.54 and Snetterton 9.12.54 (?) and that seems to have been enough for him. Information on any other sightings or the man himself would be appreciated.

Ron Searles appears to have been associated with Oliver Simpson – for the 3rd April 1954 Castle Combe race OE Simpson is listed as the entrant of Searles’ 1100 Cooper, while Autosport reported that Searles drove Simpson’s Rover/BMW at Combe 3rd Oct 1953.

Searching TNF for Ron Searles, he’s mentioned in the Rover/BMW F1 car thread and the Alta Racers thread.


#23 Geoff E

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 19:24

Shelsley Walsh had two meetings in June 1959 - on the 14th and 28th.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 14:49

Sorry I missed this thred re Crystal Palace but you guys seem to have figured it out any way !

Heat 2 grid was
Row 1 (pole on left)
ROLT (Connaught)
CROOK (Cooper Bristol)
WHITEAWAY (HWM)
FAIRMAN (Turner)
Row 2
SEARLES (Cooper 1100)
RICHARDSON (RRA)
SIMPSON (ROVER/BMW)

Incidentally Ron Searles was the father of Bob Searles who is well known in Aston Martin circles. I dont know if Bob still races but until quite recently he peddled a very quick AM V8. Ron was killed at Monza in a record attempt 1957 - See "Motorsport Memorial"

Death date: 14.Oct.1957
Circuit: Monza
speed record attempt
vehicle brand/model: Cooper Bobtail 1100
Note:
At the final stages of a 12-hour speed record, Searles struck a winking light at the intersection between the Monza road course and the oval with the right front wheel of his Cooper Bobtail. The car cartwheeled into the air and slid upside down along the concrete, where its fuel load exploded, killing the driver.


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Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:00

Re: Peter Gaskell, I think something's wrong.
It's clearly Shelsley, and a Cooper Twin, but the numbers don't seem to match up. 14th June, Peter ran Car 29 (Cooper JAP 1100cc in the programme). The number on the bonnet panel seems wrong. I can't make it out fully, but it seems to be a 'curly' number like a 3 or 8, and a 'straight' number, like a 1 or 7. On the 14th, Twins made up 18-36 and I'd guess that would mean 31, PHG Cottrell (Cooper-JAP 998cc), given that it's not Wally Cuff's 34 Cooper. I have what I believe is an erroneous report for 20th June (I presume it's the 14th) referring to it being very hot and the tarmac melting. The image sort of matches. The little I have on Peter Gaskell is that by 1962 he is in a Mk VIII-Twin, so I am leaning towards that being Cottrell. I have nothing on him, except he comes from Pontypridd.

The alternative event is 30th August. I have only 500 entries, but numbering would place the Twins in the same area - perhaps 17-40. So it would still probably be 31 or 34. Can you get a better guess of the car number?


Your right, there is something wrong, and I don't know why I said June meaning the championship meeting on 14 June 1959 because it is clearly not. Apologies.

David Moore the SHW archivist and I both think the number is 31 and my notes say 30 August 1959 but I don't have results for the class (501-1500cc racing cars) nor a programme so can't check. I didn't know there was another June meeting this year and it must have been a club meeting.

I am sure it is Peter Gaskell in the car as it is him in other photos I have and I think they are 1959. All I have worked out so far is that it may be a car Peter had in 1959 after he shared a Mk3 or4 car with Mike Hatton in 1957 and 1958 (you are correct, David) and before he got the Tony Marsh Mk8 in or about 1960. Maybe it is the car Peter and Mike shared in previous years but with a new body?

The strange thing is that the car doesn't seem to have appeared in this form before 1959 or afterwards and I haven't yet found anybody who knows anything about it.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:12

Sorry I missed this thred re Crystal Palace but you guys seem to have figured it out any way !

Heat 2 grid was
Row 1 (pole on left)
ROLT (Connaught)
CROOK (Cooper Bristol)
WHITEAWAY (HWM)
FAIRMAN (Turner)
Row 2
SEARLES (Cooper 1100)
RICHARDSON (RRA)
SIMPSON (ROVER/BMW)
...

Richard Page


Am a bit confused now as to whether Searles or Simpson was the driver on the day. Does anyone recognise the tall person with the mustache who looks like the driver in the photo?

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:32

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Here's another shot of the Gaskell Cooper with Peter second from left. Mike Hatton is far right behind what I take to be the ex Michael Christie Mk10.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 15:03

Am a bit confused now as to whether Searles or Simpson was the driver on the day. Does anyone recognise the tall person with the mustache who looks like the driver in the photo?

Yes, the chap on trackside in white helmet and with moustache is Ron Searles.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 15:27

Re: "Gaskell" Cooper
It certainly fits that the second car is the Christie-Hatton Cooper, and therefore likely the older car is Gaskell's.

I can't place the car before 1959, but what about this chap, which has been bugging us for some time?
http://www.500race.o...C...r Mk IV.htm
Surely the same car. I've put out feelers to John Dent to see if he can contribute any details on ownership, dates, etc.
It also highlights the non-Cooper body - the bonnet runs right back to the cockpit, and the engine cover is a single, unhinged panel.

Do you have any details for the Paddock image? I agree it has to be 1959 - between the purchase of the Christie Cooper and the Marsh car. It would appear fair that the Shelsley image is therefore 28th June or 30th August, also 1959.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 01:46

I can't place the car before 1959, but what about this chap, which has been bugging us for some time?
http://www.500race.o...C...r Mk IV.htm
Surely the same car. I've put out feelers to John Dent to see if he can contribute any details on ownership, dates, etc.
It also highlights the non-Cooper body - the bonnet runs right back to the cockpit, and the engine cover is a single, unhinged panel.

Do you have any details for the Paddock image? I agree it has to be 1959 - between the purchase of the Christie Cooper and the Marsh car. It would appear fair that the Shelsley image is therefore 28th June or 30th August, also 1959.


From other photos I am quite sure it is the same car as John Dent's on the 500OA website - I have a side view at Prescott, also most probably 1959 - and even the snout is the same slightly uplifted profile while the louvre details seem identical.

The car Gaskell and Hatton shared previously shows, in one pic, some signs of failing where the front and rear sides join beside the driver. Pure speculation of course, but maybe that car was repanelled by Peter and that being a relatively minor development could be why nobody can really remember this car as being another one.

None of the photos I have of these two gentlemen have date or venue details on the rear so I cannot identify the paddock shot except to say it is doubtless one of the various Midlands airfields used then for sprints.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 11:32

Another mystery Cooper twin that came to me via Duncan Rabagliati

I found this photo of my late father Martin Redfern with his Cooper Jaap (I think it was Jaap engined) in Hong Kong Circa 1960. He won the Macau GP in 1961 in his Jaguar XKSS, the road going version of the ‘D’ Type which he converted to ‘D’ type spec.

The Cooper was amongst many cars he owned and raced on the colony including a Ferrari he converted to Moza spec. which came 3rd in the 61 GP, Brabham (not sure which one) another Cooper which was a formula ‘libre’???? model and not a 500, amongst others. As I was only 9 years old at the time much of it is but a distant memory.

Regards,

David Redfern.

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This one is from Phillip Newsome's book on the Macau GP and shows a similar Cooper but with (probably) a 4 cylinder engine installed. There is no date but an inference that is it early 'sixties
Any information would be useful; may be the same car as above of course.

PS Redfern won in 1960, not 1961

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#32 David McKinney

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 12:42

Indeed a mystery

There were plenty of Cooper 500s (and bigger) in Malaya and Singapore, but I hadn't heard of one in Hong Kong

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:19

Indeed a mystery

There were plenty of Cooper 500s (and bigger) in Malaya and Singapore, but I hadn't heard of one in Hong Kong


We might have drawn a blank with this one David. Is there anyone out there who has access to the more mundane detail of Hong Kong and Macau motorsport?

The whole business of colonial or 'ex-pat motorsport' is potentially quite interesting - we seem to know so little.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 06:01

I have quite a lot of data on Hong Kong hilllcimbs in this period but, as mentioned, nothing on a Cooper

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:21

I know it is Singapore, not HK, but there may be some leads from names.
http://picas.nhb.gov...p;Submit=Submit
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:52

I know it is Singapore, not HK, but there may be some leads from names.
http://picas.nhb.gov...p;Submit=Submit
Roger Lund


That's a fabulous source I wasn't aware of. Worth a look for all sorts of stuff. Thank you.

Coopers at http://picas.nhb.gov...r...=0&total=39

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:03

I've found no evidence of any of the Peninsula Coopers travelling to Hong Kong or Macau (although their owners, like Chan Lye Choon and Jan Bussell went to Macau with other cars), and I think the three key cars - the Moncreiff/Milne Mk V and the two Chan brothers Mk VIIs - are still present and correct in Singapore around 1961. I also find it slightly strange because they picked up very quickly on good, mid-engined Juniors (Lotus, Cooper, Lola) which outpaced these cars, at least for circuit racing.
So I'm tending towards these being cars that made their own way out and so far have been missed. I also wouldn't be surprised if Redfern's car (a Mk VI or VII) wasn't reserved for hillclimbs.

Alternatively, is there any chance David Redfern is mistaken, and in fact the first photo is of his father in Singapore? The car does look a lot like the second Chan brothers Mk VII in the earlier years (albeit there are no stand-out features that would help us to identify it). I've found no record for a Redfern in a Cooper on the Peninsula, but I wasn't looking at other classes. I believe this BRG car was the one being used by Chan Lye Choon and Jimmy Milne into the 1960s, but with different wheel colours and generally with the tail section removed.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:20

I've found no evidence of any of the Peninsula Coopers travelling to Hong Kong or Macau (although their owners, like Chan Lye Choon and Jan Bussell went to Macau with other cars), and I think the three key cars - the Moncreiff/Milne Mk V and the two Chan brothers Mk VIIs - are still present and correct in Singapore around 1961. I also find it slightly strange because they picked up very quickly on good, mid-engined Juniors (Lotus, Cooper, Lola) which outpaced these cars, at least for circuit racing.
So I'm tending towards these being cars that made their own way out and so far have been missed. I also wouldn't be surprised if Redfern's car (a Mk VI or VII) wasn't reserved for hillclimbs.

Alternatively, is there any chance David Redfern is mistaken, and in fact the first photo is of his father in Singapore? The car does look a lot like the second Chan brothers Mk VII in the earlier years (albeit there are no stand-out features that would help us to identify it). I've found no record for a Redfern in a Cooper on the Peninsula, but I wasn't looking at other classes. I believe this BRG car was the one being used by Chan Lye Choon and Jimmy Milne into the 1960s, but with different wheel colours and generally with the tail section removed.


The Moncrieffe/Milne Mk5 was next owned by Peter Cowling in Malaya and he had it until he retired to the UK ('nineties I think) and he sold it there still with twin to John Bennet who still has it.

I don't have much on the two Chan mk7s except that one later had a 500 Norton in it and one complete car and another set of remnants ended up with Dave Andrews in the UK. As best I can recall Dave or maybe it was his father got these cars from Malaya/Singapore. It's a good suggestion that the Redfern car is one of the Chan cars but I don't think so.

You mention Jan Bussel - I don't have anything on him - pse can you email if not of general interest and ditto anything else you can share on Peninsula events with twins?

May 2012 Vintage Racecar has a piece by Eli Solomon on Singapore Specials that is interesting stuff.

Seems to me Singapore/Malaya and Hong Kong/Macau could do with their own threads (David?)

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:39

Let's see how the thread develops, Terry - the cars might turn out to be the same :)

Jan Bussell ran a Cooper-JAP 1100 - perhaps ex-Chan? - in 1958 and 1959

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 13:14

The Chan brothers bought two Mk VIIs new from the factory. Both were fitted with JAP1100s, but one did run some times with a Norton 500. The first to arrive (Car 18) was, I believe BRG, the second (arriving in August 1953, No.31) white.
The former appears in the National Archive of Singapore - note the similarity to the Redfern car, although far from conclusive. I believe this is the chassis that was shared by Chan Lye Choon (the brother who continued racing) and Jimmy Milne around 1960. However, I've only got a definite fix on each car until 1955. Both brothers took a sabbatical in 1956 (Chan Lye Huat retiring), and I'm less certain about which chassis Chan Lye Choon and Milne would use until about 1962

The cars I know of are
Bill Ferguson's Cooper Mk III (1951-1953): Originally Ken Watkins, then Alan Rippon, borrowed by Bernard Arnold (1952), then Bill Davies & BV Hassan sharing (1954-1955), Jan Bussell (1958-1959). Notable for a 998cc engine.
Neil Moncreiff/Jimmy Milne Mk V (1952-1959): Don't know who originally owned it (presumably in the UK), then Peter Cowling (1960-1962)
Keith Baker car (model unknown, 1957)
IM Bamwell car (model unknown, 1961) may be the Moncreiff/Milne-Cowling Mk V
BL Flack car (model unknown, 1959)
R Fyfe car (model unknown, 1960-1961)
FSW Jolliffe car (model unknown, 1961)
My records peter out quickly in the 1960s as much faster cars were arriving from Lotus, Lola, etc. and dominated event reports.

Plus the Kieft prototype (aka Mk 1-A) which Lim Peng Han initially modified, then butchered. He renamed this the Lim Special. Lim also built the TTB (for Triumph Thunderbird, 650cc) for Nap Yagle. Since this happened at the same time as he replaced the Kieft chassis in the Lim Special, it is quite possible that the TTB was built up on that.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:58

The Ferguson car is in Australia - 10-13-49 - still showing many of the details that can be found in pictures of it in Malaya/Singapore. The later owners listed here were not previously known so that's all useful.

The Moncreiff car is Mk5-L6-51 and as far as I know Neil had it new through John Crouch - not everyone in the colonies had cast-offs :) .

Below is what I believe is the remains of the Lim Special with my daughters in it in Singapore in 1975. I then thought it was a 'mystery Cooper' but I should have known better.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 11:13

Let's see how the thread develops, Terry - the cars might turn out to be the same :)


I was thinking motorsport generally - not just Coopers - there is a lot of stuff that has not seen the light of day.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 18:33

I'll have a look through the boxes of back issues for this article. Possibly some leads
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:02

I caught a flash of tiny race car being rolled out of a barn on American Pickers the other night (before the station went off air :mad: )....

it certainty looked Cooper-ish...

These Pickers are based in IA and TN (I believe) so could be in that general area....

anyone?

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:20

That 'flash' is shown at least every second promo for that show...

I missed the show it was actually on, so I don't know what the story is or was. But those blokes travel all over the US, it could have been anywhere.