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Was the penalty too harsh?

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#1 robefc

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:15

Not sure if darren has any information or is just giving his opinion based on what we all know...

Darren Heath ‏ @F1Photographer

#hamilton failed to complete his slow-down lap post Q3 @ #f1spain so will probably lose pole position.


UPDATE: http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/99564

Edited by D.M.N., 12 May 2012 - 19:50.
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#2 Watkins74

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:17

Not sure if darren has any information or is just giving his opinion based on what we all know...

Darren Heath ‏ @F1Photographer

#hamilton failed to complete his slow-down lap post Q3 @ #f1spain so will probably lose pole position.

Interesting that he just said that only 10 minutes ago. Wonder if something is up.

#3 Owen

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:18

Darren Heath just tweeted that Lewis may lose his pole due to not finishing his slow down lap. :(

#4 Pharazon

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:20

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Could be big problems for Lewis yet as he did not return to the pits after Q3 under power

#5 Owen

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:20

Now Brundle predicting 'big problems' for Lewis after stopping.

#6 robefc

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:20

Interesting that he just said that only 10 minutes ago. Wonder if something is up.


Martin Brundle ‏ @MBrundleF1

Could be big problems for Lewis yet as he did not return to the pits after Q3 under power

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#7 jrg19

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:21

So the penalty will be to do with not getting back to pits with his own power.

#8 Owen

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:22

So the penalty will be to do with not getting back to pits with his own power.

pretty pathetic if true.

#9 jrg19

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:23

Anyone want to guess on the penalty, 3 place, 5 place, 10 place?

#10 gezmond

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:23

f**king typical

#11 jamiegc

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:24

A 5 place grid penalty would make it very tasty with Grosjean, Raikonnen & Hamilton in order.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:24

will he lose his pole lap time? what was his first lap like in relation to the others...

Edited by gezmond, 12 May 2012 - 15:24.


#13 Watkins74

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:25

pretty pathetic if true.

Why?

#14 dave12

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:25

Anyone want to guess on the penalty, 3 place, 5 place, 10 place?

Its Lewis so seeing as the FIA love him so much the back of the grid most likely. :well:

#15 Owen

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:25

Anyone want to guess on the penalty, 3 place, 5 place, 10 place?

Use his second best time?

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:25

If they really have to penalise him - although that would be ludicrous - can't they just take away his best time? That way it can't be argued he gained an advantage because of the team "purposefully under-fuelling" the car.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:25

I don't think there will be any penalty given to Lewis. It is said to he had problems with hydraulics and had to stop his car. I don't believe McLaren underfueled him really

Edited by Mc_Silver, 12 May 2012 - 15:26.


#18 robefc

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:25

will he lose his pole lap time? what was his first lap like in relation to the others...


slower than kimi, not sure about behind him

#19 jrg19

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:26

Use his second best time?


Where would that put him?

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#20 choyothe

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:26

Use his second best time?


I think he's 5th then?

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:26

Andrew Benson ‏ @andrewbensonf1

Little bird tells me McLaren have admitted @LewisHamilton stopped on track cos no fuel. Not allowed. May well get sporting penalty

:(

#22 ivand911

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:26

pretty pathetic if true.

Why , it seems fair? If they did it to gain advantage?


#23 tarmac

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:27

Andrew Benson @andrewbensonf1

Little bird tells me McLaren have admitted @LewisHamilton stopped on track cos no fuel. Not allowed. May well get sporting penalty #BBCF1

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:27

Anyone want to guess on the penalty, 3 place, 5 place, 10 place?


It would be a grid penalty. 5 places IMO.

#25 Owen

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:27

Andrew Benson‏@andrewbensonf1

Little bird tells me McLaren have admitted @LewisHamilton stopped on track cos no fuel. Not allowed. May well get sporting penalty


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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:27

oh for ****ing ****s sake

#27 robefc

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:27

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Andrew Benson ‏ @andrewbensonf1

Rule banning that written after Ham did same in Canada 2010. Only way to avoid penalty may be if can demonstrate force majeure #BBCF1


Little bird tells me McLaren have admitted @LewisHamilton stopped on track cos no fuel. Not allowed. May well get sporting penalty #BBCF1
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#28 RockyRaccoon68

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:27

Didn't the FIA rule after Lewis stopped at the end of quali in Canada '10 that you have to get back to the pits under your own power. If he gets a penalty it is harsh but it's not like they've just made the rule up out of the blue.

#29 xAtarigeekx

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:28

If they under fueled him then he deserves a penalty. It's perfectly clear you have to have enough fuel to get back to the pits

#30 jrg19

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:28

So another F up from McLaren if the penalty comes.

#31 BiH

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:28

must be error on fueling

McLaren can't be that stupid to risk everything for P1 slot that won't matter either way for race.

#32 Owen

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:28

oh for ****ing ****s sake

so disappointing after such a fine performance. :cry:

#33 robefc

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:29

What the **** is wrong with this team?

First they're continually incompetent and secondly they tried to get away with it??????????????????????

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:29

Penalty is needed. It is the same driver and the same team doing it.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:29

So yeah think I might cross off gross incompetence this time.

Absolute ***king joke!

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:29

My god, what a pathetic team, and Whitmarsh needs to pay with his job.

Every fricking weekend he somewhow, one way or another, gets Hamilton ****ed over.

How can a team with McLaren's experience underfuel for a single flying lap? You know its almost as if it was intentional :/

Edited by ZooL, 12 May 2012 - 15:31.


#37 xAtarigeekx

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:30

Penalty is needed. It is the same driver and the same team doing it.


The penalty would be given no matter who did it.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:30

OMG you're joking :mad:

#39 Dalin80

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:30

Penalty is needed. It is the same driver and the same team doing it.


IF it is low fuel then mclaren deserve the penalty, last I checked the driver doesnt fuel the car himself down at the local esso.

Edited by Dalin80, 12 May 2012 - 15:30.


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#40 artista

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:31

I think he's 5th then?

That would make him 7th. His timed lap in the first run in Q3 was 1:22.560.

#41 MeatPopsicle

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:31

where on the track did he actually come to a stop? S3 is basically downhill to the pits isnt it?

#42 windtravels

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:32

Andrew Benson ‏ @andrewbensonf1

Little bird tells me McLaren have admitted @LewisHamilton stopped on track cos no fuel. Not allowed. May well get sporting penalty

:(


oh my god. that is just.... hopeless. hopeless hopeless hopeless from mclaren.

if this indeed is the case, I will be so totally disappointed in this team.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:32

if they under fuelled him it is another major cock up by the team :mad: as it would not equate to the nearly six tenths he beat maldanado
if it is true then he will get a penalty as its in the rules ,just cant catch a break can he :confused:


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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:33

So, if penalty is given, Kvothe might have to update his sig. ;)

To be honest, this call actually makes sense, this rule is there for a reason. It might not be a rule breaker. But I don't see how this could be Lewis's fault. Will be interesting what happens,

#45 Haribo

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:33

Facepalm from Mclaren. They were so much faster than everyone else they could have half filled the bloody tank and Hamilton would've stuck it on pole.

#46 P123

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:33

Darren Heath just tweeted that Lewis may lose his pole due to not finishing his slow down lap. :(


I suspected that, hence my warning in the LH topic that nobody should be celebrating anything yet.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:34

IF it is low fuel then mclaren deserve the penalty, last I checked the driver doesnt fuel the car himself down at the local esso.

That is between them to work out. His name was on the pole. Don't tell me he didn't know? Don't tell me he doesn't know you are not suppose to stop on the track in inlap.


#48 Coral

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:34

Oh good grief, if Lewis gets a penalty after that great lap, then I am going to cry. What does Lewis have to do to get a break? :cry:

#49 Watkins74

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:34

So, if penalty is given, Kvothe might have to update his sig.;)

To be honest, this call actually makes sense, this rule is there for a reason. It might not be a rule breaker. But I don't see how this could be Lewis's fault. Will be interesting what happens,

:lol: I was thinking the same thing!

#50 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:34

So another F up from McLaren if the penalty comes.


It will be almost unbelievable if true. And a damn shame for Lewis. I mean seriously, how much bad luck can one guy have? He totally deserves this pole. Even if he was on fumes.