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#1 Vitesse2

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 14:08

62 years to the day after the first World Championship Grand Prix, Pastor Maldonado has become not only the first Venezuelan to stand on an F1 podium, but the first to win an F1 race.

This was also the first win for Williams GP for nearly eight years and came during the weekend during which Sir Frank celebrated his 70th birthday.

Sometimes, nice guys really do finish first :clap: :clap: :clap:

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#2 Tim Murray

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 15:25

(Following the theme of a Catchpole cartoon from 1977) does this mean that Pastor will now be upgraded to Bishop?

#3 D-Type

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 15:27

(Following the theme of a Catchpole cartoon from 1977) does this mean that Pastor will now be upgraded to Bishop?

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

One for the statisticians: Is this the first time the first five races have been won by different makes of car? 1962 and 1982 saw four.

Edited by D-Type, 13 May 2012 - 15:31.


#4 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 15:39

I was pleased at Alonso and Ferrari's continued improvement, but I still nodded off twice!.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 16:00

One for the statisticians: Is this the first time the first five races have been won by different makes of car? 1962 and 1982 saw four.


The way things are going, HRT and Marussia could be in with a chance as the end of the season approaches.


#6 Vitesse2

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 16:00

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

One for the statisticians: Is this the first time the first five races have been won by different makes of car? 1962 and 1982 saw four.

1983:

Brazil: Piquet (Brabham)
Long Beach: Watson (McLaren)
France: Prost (Renault)
San Marino: Tambay (Ferrari)
Monaco: Rosberg (Williams)

Prost won the sixth in Belgium but Alboreto (Tyrrell) made it 6 in 7 in Detroit.

#7 RTH

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 16:03

Serious fire broken out in the Williams garage

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/99589



#8 Vitesse2

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 16:09

Serious fire broken out in the Williams garage

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/99589

From what I could gather from the Sky coverage - they were still on-air and actually caught the explosion on film - four Williams and one Force India mechanic were injured. One of the Williams guys was apparently burned: a Sky cameraman dragged him clear. Early reports suggested that the rest were suffering from smoke inhalation.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 16:38

Another one for the statisticians: did any team ever break a nearly 8 year dry spell in wins?

Team - so Merc 55 and Brawn-Mercedes do not count, like Honda 60's-BAR, nor Renault factory-Benetton/Renault/Lotus. Let alone Team Lotus-Lotus 2012!

Minardi-Toro Rosso would.

Lotus, Tyrrell, March and some others faded away and never resurrected and many feared the same for Williams.

#10 Bill Becketts

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 17:10

From what I could gather from the Sky coverage - they were still on-air and actually caught the explosion on film - four Williams and one Force India mechanic were injured. One of the Williams guys was apparently burned: a Sky cameraman dragged him clear. Early reports suggested that the rest were suffering from smoke inhalation.



Bad end to a great day for Williams. I hope no serious injuries for anyone. KERS system may be involved..

#11 David Beard

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 17:49

I was pleased at Alonso and Ferrari's continued improvement, but I still nodded off twice!.


You need to see your doctor, Eric. :rolleyes:


#12 alansart

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 18:18

You need to see your doctor, Eric. :rolleyes:


It's probably an age thing...us being young and fit :)


#13 Tim Murray

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 18:34

Another one for the statisticians: did any team ever break a nearly 8 year dry spell in wins?

Ligier went nearly 15 years between Canada 1981 and Monaco 1996.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 18:48

As Tim Murray has already mentioned –not taking into account Mercedes, Honda nor Renault– Ligier would be the leader of this particular stat:

1	Mercedes	56a 07m 04d	813	Italia 1955	-	China 2012
2	Honda	38a 10m 27d	604	Italia 1967	-	Hungría 2006
3	Renault	20a 00m 10d	326	Austria 1983	-	Hungría 2003
4	Ligier	14a 07m 22d	231	Canadá 1981	-	Mónaco 1996
5	Williams	7a 06m 19d	132	Brasil 2004	-	España 2012
6	March	5a 03m 29d	76	España 1970	-	Austria 1975
7	Cooper	4a 04m 20d	46	Mónaco 1962	-	México 1966
8	Tyrrell	4a 04m 18d	71	Mónaco 1978	-	Las Vegas 1982
9	Brabham	4a 00m 23d	53	Sudáfrica 1970	-	Sudáfrica 1974
10	BRM	4a 00m 16d	46	Mónaco 1966	-	Bélgica 1970

Check it out in the following link: statsf1


Narcís.

#15 phil1993

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 18:56

Wondering if anyone here knows. I've gone back to the mid-70s and can't find a case of Car #18 ever winning an F1 race before. Anyone know?

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 19:04

Wondering if anyone here knows. I've gone back to the mid-70s and can't find a case of Car #18 ever winning an F1 race before. Anyone know?


Peter Gethin's maiden victory in Monza '71 was the last one for an #18-numbered car until today. A complete list, once again, can be found at statsf1.


Narcís.

Edited by a_tifoosi, 13 May 2012 - 19:04.


#17 ryan86

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 19:11

Since a lot of teams are now treated as franchises, the Milton Keynes branch went just short of 10 years between Europe 99 and China 09. I know the name above the door changed from Stewart to Jaguar to Red Bull, but the staff remained a constant.

#18 cheesy poofs

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 19:13

Ligier went nearly 15 years between Canada 1981 and Monaco 1996.


Both wins were notable for a few reasons.
Was the last GP win for Laffite and Panis as well as the Matra and Mugen-Honda engines.


#19 ryan86

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 19:18

Mugen won 3 further GP with Jordan in 98 and 99.

In Racing Comments, there was a thread that asked next winner and I went with Maldanado, but it was at the next race I expected the victory to come. Certainly shaping into what could be a very bizarre season.

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#20 cheesy poofs

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 20:02

Mugen won 3 further GP with Jordan in 98 and 99.

In Racing Comments, there was a thread that asked next winner and I went with Maldanado, but it was at the next race I expected the victory to come. Certainly shaping into what could be a very bizarre season.


Absolutely right! I had forgotten Jordan had Mugen-Honda power.


#21 HistoryFan

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 20:15

My list:

Honda: Michele Alboreto USA 1983 – Jenson Button Ungarn 2006
Ligier: Jacques Laffite Kanada 1981 – Olivier Panis Monaco 1996
Red Bull: Johnny Herbert Europa 1999 – Sebastian Vettel China 2009
Williams: Juan-Pablo Montoya Brasilien 2004 – Pastor Maldonado Spanien 2012
Renault: Gerhard Berger Deutschland 1997 – Fernando Alonso Ungarn 2003
Cooper: Bruce McLaren Monaco 1962 – John Surtees Mexiko 1966
BRM: Jackie Stewart Monaco 1966 – Pedro Rodriguez Belgien 1970
Brabham: Jack Brabham Südafrika 1970 – Carlos Reutemann Südafrika 1974
McLaren: James Hunt Japan 1977 – John Watson Deutschland 1981
Tyrrell: Patrick Depailler Monaco 1978 – Michele Alboreto USA 1982


#22 scheivlak

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 20:27

Honda: Michele Alboreto USA 1983

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#23 Tim Murray

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 20:42

McLaren: James Hunt Japan 1977 – John Watson Deutschland 1981

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I don't think anything beats:

Renault: France 1906 - France 1979

#24 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 17:19

It's probably an age thing...us being young and fit :)

Cheeky Kids!. In my defence I would point out that I had also been watching a very gruelling stage of the Giro d'Italia cycle race which along with seeing a Ferrari leading a Formula 1 race again was pretty exciting and tiring for an old boy like me!. :cool:

#25 ryan86

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 23:18

Another interesting titbit is that we've now had 7 races with 7 different winners. The record is 9 from Races 6-14 in 1982.

Raikkonen or Grosjean would look best placed to extend the run, though a Hamilton win would maintain it.