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Dany Bahar fired from Lotus role

Started by Gilles4Ever , May 25 2012 17:55

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#1 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 17:55

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/99862

Group Lotus plc ("Lotus") can today confirm that, following an operational review, chief executive Dany Bahar has been temporarily suspended from his role to facilitate an investigation into a complaint about his conduct made by Lotus' penultimate parent company, DRB-Hicom Berhad

#2 swerved

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 17:57

It was surely only a matter of time.

#3 lokiman

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 18:01

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

#4 Fubar1979

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 18:03

Sorry i find this highly amusing, anyone who couldn't see this coming after the 1st week of him spouting crap is just as mental as Bahar is himself

#5 Disgrace

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 18:05

It was surely only a matter of time.

Why? As far as I see it, it appears to be a behavioural complaint rather than one of incompetence/megalomania which has been more readily associable. Perhaps it's related, but no need to speculate when you make fun instead.

#6 Sakae

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 18:22

What did Bahar do? (Told someone to ...?)

#7 gm914

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 18:37

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Yep.

#8 swerved

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 18:39

Why? As far as I see it, it appears to be a behavioural complaint rather than one of incompetence/megalomania which has been more readily associable. Perhaps it's related, but no need to speculate when you make fun instead.

The writing was on the wall before the bricklayers turned up to build it, I'm only surprised its taken this long, I'm not speculating, it'll be mildly interesting to see what develops, I suspect some of the linen will be dirty, and will be washed all to publically.

#9 g1n

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 18:40

who is this guy?

#10 lambylamby

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 19:25

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

this put a smile on my face. He is such a lovely guy. the sort of fella i would want to have a drink with in a trendy bar, he is the alpha male, such a visionary.

#11 hulmerist

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 19:27

can everyone be more vague please

#12 Guizotia

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 19:29

can everyone be more vague please

#13 Nustang70

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 20:27

Bahar doesn't deserve this. It was all Swiss Beatz' fault. Or Alesi's.

#14 gm914

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 20:31

Bahar doesn't deserve this. It was all Swiss Beatz' fault. Or Alesi's.

Don't forget Freddie Mercury. He had a hand in this.

#15 scheivlak

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 20:36

Bahar doesn't deserve this. It was all Swiss Beatz' fault. Or Alesi's.

Nah, Eric Lux again.

#16 TennisUK

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 20:51

What a crying shame...

#17 One

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:14

Well it is just temporary suspended, not fired nor dismissed. This must be a hope for him.
Read that they are going to investigate his deed. But Bahar just operated according to his business plan right?
Got to say never the less, this person once was called business miracle now is suspended,... should it be a case?

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:17

Could this be a way to get rid of him without paying ridiculous amounts of money?
Not surprised to see him on the verge of getting fired, but surprised by the reason claimed to be the cause of this.

#19 TennisUK

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:22

Could this be a way to get rid of him without paying ridiculous amounts of money?

I would imagine so. All his projects other than the Esprit are now cancelled (and even that preceded him) too.

#20 BullHead

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:27

Could be a legal mess if the reasoning is not solid...

#21 wrcva

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:37

DRB is the new owner who recently bought Lotus right?

#22 Lemans

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:38

I blame Hamilton.

#23 gm914

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:45

Saward's on it
http://joesaward.wor...uture-is-black/

Surprisingly restrained at this point, but some of the comments are pretty funny, Joe's included-

Bahar and his goons are not really F1 these days… just history really.

#24 aliasj

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:47

Good riddance! I still don't see a Lotus in the Renault F1 team yet, do you?

#25 aliasj

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:50

Wait, so what happens now? Do we go back to calling Kimi Raikkonen's car a Renault or do we still call it a fake Lotus? Can we have the yellow bee livery back please?

#26 gm914

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:56

Wait, so what happens now? Do we go back to calling Kimi Raikkonen's car a Renault or do we still call it a fake Lotus? Can we have the yellow bee livery back please?

+1 for the yellow livery. Formula One needs yellow cars.

Watch Kimi swoop in and offer to call it ICE 1 Racing. With a Clause that lets him race Rally Finland.

#27 mechadaniel

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 21:59

Has anyone got a link to the full press release?

#28 scheivlak

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 22:17

Has anyone got a link to the full press release?

So far, every single site has more or less the same quote http://en.espnf1.com...tory/79643.html

#29 Menace

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 22:33

+1 for the yellow livery. Formula One needs yellow cars.

Watch Kimi swoop in and offer to call it ICE 1 Racing. With a Clause that lets him race Rally Finland.

As of now, this doesn't effect the Lotus F1 team at all.

Edited by Menace, 25 May 2012 - 22:33.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 22:34

Has anyone got a link to the full press release?

As a result of a number of media inquiries, Group Lotus plc (“Lotus”) can today confirm that, following an operational review, Chief Executive Dany Bahar has been temporarily suspended from his role to facilitate an investigation into a complaint about his conduct made by Lotus’ penultimate parent company, DRB-HICOM Berhad.

In Mr Bahar’s absence, Dato’ Lukman Ibrahim, Mr Mohd Khalid Yusof and Mr Aslam Farikullah (representatives of Lotus’ parent companies ) have been authorised by Group Lotus plc’s board to handle and conduct the day to day management and affairs of the Lotus Group. They will be assisted by Mr Rusman Zaihan. They have been authorised to take up these duties during the suspension period.

A spokesman for DRB-HICOM Berhad said: “The penultimate holding company would like to stress it is business as usual at Lotus. We fully support the company and will continue to support Lotus in its business endeavours and development.”

Source: SkiddMark.com

#31 BullHead

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 22:36

So really, what is the nature of this 'complaint'?

#32 hulmerist

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 22:38

still have no idea what's going on.....

what is this, who is this guy, what has he done and why should i care?

#33 Fastcake

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 00:36

I am absolutely surprised :lol:

Hopefully the guy will be gone for good and Lotus can stay afloat.

#34 Kelateboy

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:56

So really, what is the nature of this 'complaint'?

Decisions exceeding his limit of authority. Allegedly, Bahar unilaterally made several key decisions without informing, consulting or getting the approval of the Board of Directors of Proton Holdings Berhad.

#35 pingu666

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:46

he did a crazy press release too. and the indycar engine/program debacle

didnt the now lotus f1 team split from lotus car company earlier this year too ? quietly like

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:02

When, in 2010, he said Lotus (now Caterham) should be a podium contender within 3 years I knew this guy wouldn't last long.

That said, the Lotus name DID actually visit the podium this year. Maybe he had a bet with someone and thats why Renault became Lotus? :lol:

#37 GT Racing Online Magazine

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:53

still have no idea what's going on.....

what is this, who is this guy, what has he done and why should i care?

To illustrate, Lotus' apesh*t press release before Chinese GP: http://uk.eurosport....lease-full.html

#38 FPV GTHO

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:55

When, in 2010, he said Lotus (now Caterham) should be a podium contender within 3 years I knew this guy wouldn't last long.

That said, the Lotus name DID actually visit the podium this year. Maybe he had a bet with someone and thats why Renault became Lotus?

He is the reason why 1Malaysia no longer race as Lotus Racing. That deal was brokered before he was given his role at Group Lotus, and its been his vision to put Lotus' name in so many motorsport categories.

#39 WBarnato

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:45

What a beautiful morning. Just had a nice breakfast and read this!

I doubt my day could get any better. Although I am a little sad I wont be able to see his smug face at either Goodwood or the opening of the Lotus store in London.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:54

Decisions exceeding his limit of authority. Allegedly, Bahar unilaterally made several key decisions without informing, consulting or getting the approval of the Board of Directors of Proton Holdings Berhad.

Ok but subsequently the bias made no decision to reverse the project to cancelation. Indy engine deal was indeed a bad advertisement. Some in effective parts in comming to contractural agreements did not ended up in court cases in the litigation country like USA MADD me thought that Bahad and his executives has found an 'amicable' path, but was it amicable in a sense that teams got what they wanted?

#41 One

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:56

What a beautiful morning. Just had a nice breakfast and read this!

I doubt my day could get any better. Although I am a little sad I wont be able to see his smug face at either Goodwood or the opening of the Lotus store in London.

This make me very curious about their next moves as car builder. Any insight to be shared?

#42 olliek88

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:28

And he spent £375,000 of lotus's (right plural?) money doing up a rented house.

http://www.edp24.co....bahar_1_1343332

I'm never one to take delight from the downfall of someone else but, actually, on this occasion i am. It would seem as though the bloke needs taking down a peg or two, at least that the impression i get.

#43 DanardiF1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:35

This make me very curious about their next moves as car builder. Any insight to be shared?

I think the major concern at the moment is whether the company will still be running...

But if it does have a secure future, I think consolidation of the current model lineup will be the first order of business. They actually have some very exciting cars at the moment in the Evora and the Exige S, but Bahar was caught up in the 'douchebagification' of the company's image and brand, forgetting that he had actually had some real cars to sell.

#44 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:04

And he spent £375,000 of lotus's (right plural?) money doing up a rented house.

http://www.edp24.co....bahar_1_1343332

I'm never one to take delight from the downfall of someone else but, actually, on this occasion i am. It would seem as though the bloke needs taking down a peg or two, at least that the impression i get.