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#351 Snic

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:18



Onboard of the start and the Webber overtake

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#352 ArkZ

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:57

Outstanding start as always, since Spain 2011 Ferrari is class in the field in terms of how run under the lights :clap: . Fernando would jump even more cars without this right turn and with longer run to corner (remember Malaysia 2009 from 10 up to 3). Overtakes were also great my favorite were on Webber, Grosjean and Schumi he was so close those guys in high speed 3rd sector and start line that I scared of damage in front wing. Hopefully Alonso will jump Mansell for 4th all time numbers of wins.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:34

What Alonso did since he joined Ferrari was trully amazing and inspirational, specially with a car that was only able to grab a couple of poles vs a car (RBR) that was able to grab 37 poles.

I hope Fernando gets soon a car like that, he deserves that and much more.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:51

vs a car (RBR) that was able to grab 37 poles.


I couldn't believe that, but yeah:

RBR RB6: 15 poles in 19 races
RBR RB7: 18 poles in 19 races
RBR RB8: 4 poles in 7 races

Those cars superiority, credit to the efficient for EBD Renault engine, is insulting.



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Posted 25 June 2012 - 14:14

As a neutral fan, yesterday was rather special. Every so often in sport you have the special moments and yesterday was one of those. Incredible performance. Every single race he drags 110% out of that car. He is worth every single euro Ferrari pay him. Ok he had a little bit of luck yesterday but to take advantage of luck, you have to be in the right place at the right time and he pulled that car into that position. And his start, as so often in the past, was just incredible to watch. I really hope he does it this year. He deserves it. I can't remember the last time he had a bad personal performance. He is a pleasure to watch.

#356 MarcelBrDirani

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 14:40

Alonso is the best driver since Senna. No doubts, crystal clear.

#357 ali_M

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 15:40

That was an outstanding race. Even as a fan of another driver I hope Alonso wins the WDC this year. And while I did bash him for the race in Canada, I now must admit that you can do worse with totally shot tires and that he even handled that situation with calm and control.


Alonso's efforts were pretty much the same between Canada and today. However, this time around, he wasn't let down by the tires. I'm VERY happy things went his way today and a well deserved victory considering his performances since season start. He's at the top of his game and deserves this championship big time. Go Alonso!! :clap:

#358 ali_M

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 15:43

Alonso is the best driver since Senna. No doubts, crystal clear.


Last year Vettel was the greatest.... etc.
Memories are short indeed....
Alonso is one of the greats, no doubt. I put Schumi ahead of him, hands down because of the breadth of his achievements.
Alonso seems to have the ability to achieve similarly... no doubt in my mind. Let's see how it goes for him.

#359 velgajski1

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 15:45

Alonso is the best driver since Senna. No doubts, crystal clear.


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#360 Flamini

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 16:43

http://www.skybet.co.../event/13341168 - Alonso is now bookies' favourite. Who would have thought that after pre season testing?

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 18:08

http://www.skybet.co.../event/13341168 - Alonso is now bookies' favourite. Who would have thought that after pre season testing?

I bet 100€ on him when it was x6.5 :clap:

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 18:46

What Alonso did since he joined Ferrari was trully amazing and inspirational, specially with a car that was only able to grab a couple of poles vs a car (RBR) that was able to grab 37 poles.

I hope Fernando gets soon a car like that, he deserves that and much more.


You want Alonso get a car like the dominant Red Bull? Better no, otherwise F1 would be horribly boring.:)

#363 SirRacer

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 19:36

You want Alonso get a car like the dominant Red Bull? Better no, otherwise F1 would be horribly boring.:)

I'll be fine if no one has a dominant car like this year, even if Alonso's car is not as competitive as the others. But bleh, RBR seems to again develop faster, and again in Valencia they were dominant :stoned:

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 19:53

But bleh, RBR seems to again develop faster, and again in Valencia they were dominant :stoned:

Could be the track and temperatures though, but yes it indeed looks like Red Bull has that little bit of extra at the moment which is very dangerous for Alonso's championship as I don't expect Ferrari to be able to fight for pole in any race this season, Canada is probably as good as it gets. And like that he's just more prone to accidents while Vettel can just apply 2011 mode again.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 20:55

Excellent race by Alonso! He is going to be hard to catch in the championship.


Alonso would be hard to catch if he dad the pace of the RB8, but he doesn't, and Fernando and Domenicail both are aware of that.

Fernando had lady luck riding with him yesterday, i.e. Vettel's altenator failure and Hamilton's botched pitstop, but with that being said, Alonso maximizes his luck, and is leading the championship, in one of the most least dominant cars, amongst the top front runners.

Congratulations are in order to Fernando, and to all of his fans, for a tremendous performance on his part, to a well deserved win!!




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Posted 25 June 2012 - 20:57

I hope we will have a good second half of the year like in 2010 (except the ending itself)


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 20:58

Just thought I'd pop in and say what another great race from Alonso. I believe he is at his peak right now, its a pleasure to watch him at the moment.

I liked seeing him on the podium with Michael and Kimi - I really felt the Ferrari was 'his' drive now and he's a very worthy succesor to those that have gone before!

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 21:02

not a huge fan, but dang he can drive the wheels off a f1 car

#369 kosmos

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:55

Some random stuff.


From the article Alonso: Master of the midgrid fightback on Autospot Plus (subscribe to read the full article).

Fernando Alonso consolidated his position as one of Formula 1's great comeback kings with his superb victory from 11th on the grid in Sunday's European Grand Prix.

It's the second time that Alonso has raced from outside the top ten to achieve glory, and only the 26th time in 866 Formula 1 world championship events that a driver has managed such a feat (and three of those were Indianapolis oval races).


Some tweet from important people:

@PauGasol
¡Realmente nuestro deporte está en un momento alucinante! Felicidades a @alo_oficial por el carrerón.
@AlbertoContador
Impresionante victoria de @alo_oficial. Enhorabuena.
@JorgeLorenzo
Para mí @alo_oficial sólo parece humano cuando acaba la carrera. Durante la misma es un robot casi perfecto. Increíble!!
@ValentinoRossi
¡Qué carrera Fernando. Fantástico!!! Grande Ferrari. Mágico @alo_oficial. ¡Buen trabajo!!!


No need to translate, all of them over the moon with the victory and congratulating Fernando, Jorge Lorenzo went over the top saying: "he only looks like an human when the race is over, during the race it's a robot almost perfect".


Pretty interesting stat:

Wins By different circuit

1 SCHUMACHER Michael 23
2 PROST Alain 22
3 MANSELL Nigel 19
4 ALONSO Fernando 19



I can't believe SPA is not in his thropy cabinet yet :(

Some videos:

Alonso overtakes Grosjean (recorded from the grandstands)

Alonso onboard start

Frikin amazing again, the reaction time, speed in the first meters is fantastic. Ferrari and of course Felipe and Fernando are doing such a great job at the starts.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:34

What a great win! :cool:
It's one of those moments when we feel it's a championship decider.
Still a lot of races to go. :smoking:
From early races to now, best come back in decades!

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 15:47

What a race! What a win! Well deserved. He had a bit of luck but he was always in place to grab it. That´s what world champions do, well done :up: Still unbelievable that Alonso is leading the standing with so much points ahead of his rivals without not evenhaving the 2nd best car. That´s class, pure class :up:

Alonso + his team crew = Perfection



hmmm, I am with you, however, lets not merely forget Montreal. I think the team could learn some from there (as I am sure they have), there is always room for improvement.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 17:21

Fernando & Edoardo on the beach babysitting Fer's niece.. Beautiful beach..

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 17:24

Fernando & Edoardo on the beach babysitting Fer's niece.. Beautiful beach..

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I see no niece. You sure that's not just the excuse they used for playing with the bucket and spade?  ;)

#374 Flamini

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 17:27

I see no niece. You sure that's not just the excuse they used for playing with the bucket and spade? ;)


:up: :lol:

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 23:56

Fernando has finished in the points in the last 20 races. 18 of those 20 races, he has finished in the top 5. Impressive. :up: AvantiFer


@Clatter :lol: May be.. :p

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 01:45

I can't believe SPA is not in his thropy cabinet yet :(


It's been the race I'd love to see him win more than any other.

Atleast he has a trophy from his F3000 win in 2000! after his engineers finally started listening to him(including Rob Smedley) with regard to testing different things.Mark Webber was also in that F3000 race at Spa and said he was "totally blown away" by how quick Alonso was.I think that was the start of the huge respect Webber has for Alonso even till this day.

F1 in 2004 he led the race but retired with engine failure.2005 he was 2nd to Kimi in the rain.

It's a shame that there was no Belgian race in 2006 because he would have had an enourmous chance to win after dominating the 1st half of the season.

2007 he beat Hamilton atleast with that fiesty move into Eau Rouge 3rd behind Ferraris.2008 was an amazing drive to come 4th in the Reanult.2009 retired,2010 crashed in the wet,2011 4th I think.

Let's hope that he finally wins an F1 race at Spa this year






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Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:08

I see no niece. You sure that's not just the excuse they used for playing with the bucket and spade? ;)



Probably they don't want to show the little kid to the internet, but hey, some people play with invisible friends, nothing wrong about that :p

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:14

Accolades pouring in from many sides:

James Allen:

"Of all the F1 drivers I’ve known over the years, Alonso always seems to have points and permutations in his head at all times. When he comes into the unilateral TV interviews after the podium, he always wants to know championship positions to confirm what he’s worked out in his head on the slowdown lap.

And going into events he is always thinking about what needs to be done numbers wise and who he needs to stay ahead of or close up to."


http://www.jamesalle...ionship-battle/


Andrew Benson:

"But Alonso put himself in the position to gain from others' misfortune, and all the other positions he gained he worked for and won in a style befitting one of the greatest racing drivers the world has seen."

http://www.bbc.co.uk.../06/alonso.html

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:23

It's been the race I'd love to see him win more than any other.

Atleast he has a trophy from his F3000 win in 2000! after his engineers finally started listening to him(including Rob Smedley) with regard to testing different things.Mark Webber was also in that F3000 race at Spa and said he was "totally blown away" by how quick Alonso was.I think that was the start of the huge respect Webber has for Alonso even till this day.

F1 in 2004 he led the race but retired with engine failure.2005 he was 2nd to Kimi in the rain.

It's a shame that there was no Belgian race in 2006 because he would have had an enourmous chance to win after dominating the 1st half of the season.

2007 he beat Hamilton atleast with that fiesty move into Eau Rouge 3rd behind Ferraris.2008 was an amazing drive to come 4th in the Reanult.2009 retired,2010 crashed in the wet,2011 4th I think.

Let's hope that he finally wins an F1 race at Spa this year


He stormed through the field at Spa to take the lead last year until a poorly timed SC allowed Vettel on to fresher tyres and then the Ferrari's total inability to use the harder compound last year dropped him off the podium :(


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Posted 27 June 2012 - 08:00

http://www.skybet.co.../event/13341168 - Alonso is now bookies' favourite. Who would have thought that after pre season testing?



me - I have an ongoing race by race prediction with a friend. We predicted the WDC before the start of the season - I chose Fernando

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:13

me - I have an ongoing race by race prediction with a friend. We predicted the WDC before the start of the season - I chose Fernando


I think we have to wait and see Red Bull's pace at Silverstone... it was scary.

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#382 Gintonious

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 10:05

Good article from Mark Hughes.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 13:35

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 13:38

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 13:50

Good article from Mark Hughes.

Good article, thanks for sharing!

I don't see so much calculation in his moves though. I saw Alonso driving much more with his heart than his head. There was a sense of rush in every overtake he took, much more than usual (compare his overtakes with that of Kimi for the same group of cars, for example). Or it may be just me.

All in all, it is one of the best races I have seen ever from anyone. Who would have thought that of all places it would be in Valencia?

BTW, Valencia's mayor was an eyesore. I hope they choose someone kinder to the eye next year.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 13:50

I see no niece. You sure that's not just the excuse they used for playing with the bucket and spade? ;)

The niece had to take the picture

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 16:21

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 16:57

Alonso appears to be in superb form, maybe his prime, he looks untouchable at the moment. Unless Ferrari go backwards in development, I reckon Alonso is the favourite. The only worry I could imagine Alonso fans have is the pace the Red Bull showed before Vettel's DNF, but then they always go well in Valencia.

Mclaren are too incompetent to match Ferrari and Alonso right now. Alonso is favourite to win it for me.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 17:49

Info Form "El Abuelo" www.forocohes.com
My aplogies for the the traslation into english but i do not have time and i used a translator. In any case, you can get the meaning of the information.

Who is the best among Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton?.



29 victories and 20 poles.

45 % ( 13/29 ) victories with pole
( 13/20 ) the poles's 65 % ended up in victory: 13 victories,
( 19/20 ) the poles's 95 % ended up in the drawer: 19 podiums

5 % ( 1/20 ) wasted ( 1 abandon )
55 % ( 16/29 ) victories without pole

37 % ( 11/29 ) coming out among the 4 first:

4 victories coming out 2, 5 coming out 3, 2 coming out 4
34 % ( 24/79 ) of his racing, coming out among the 4 first converted in victory.
17 % ( 5/29 ) coming out late
1 victory coming out 5, 6, 8, 11 and 15


Vettel:
22 victories and 33 poles.
77 % ( 17/22 ) victories with pole
( 17/33 ) the poles's 51 % ended up in victory
( 19/33 ) the poles's 75 % ended up in the drawer: 19 podiums

25 % ( 8/33 ) wasted ( 4 abandons )
5 victories without pole.

23 % ( 5/22 ) coming out among the 4 first

4 victories coming out 2, 1 coming out 3,

40 % ( 22/54 ) of his racing, coming out among the 4 first converted in victory.

0 % coming out of late positions.



Hamilton:
18 victories and 21 poles.
50 % ( 9/18 ) victories with pole
( 9/21 ) the poles's 43 % ended up in victory
( 15/21 ) the poles's 71.5 % ended up in the drawer: 15 podiums

28.5 % ( 6/21 ) wasted ( 3 abandons )
9 victories without pole.

50 % ( 9/18 ) coming out among the 4 first

5 victories coming out 2, 2 coming out 3, 2 4

26,5 % ( 18/68 ) of his racing, coming out among the 4 first converted in victory.

0 % coming out of late positions.



#390 SirRacer

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 18:00

After seeing those stats it looks crystal clear that Alonso is the best

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 19:24

Once again Fernando shows the world what a class act he is, flawless race once again. I have only been a die hard F1 fan since the end of '09 and I can't remember him DNF'ing in that time, can anybody tell me when he last did so?

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 19:30

Once again Fernando shows the world what a class act he is, flawless race once again. I have only been a die hard F1 fan since the end of '09 and I can't remember him DNF'ing in that time, can anybody tell me when he last did so?

He crashed out in Brazil '09, Belgium '10 (his fault) and Canada '11. He is very consistent in his approach.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 19:32

Once again Fernando shows the world what a class act he is, flawless race once again. I have only been a die hard F1 fan since the end of '09 and I can't remember him DNF'ing in that time, can anybody tell me when he last did so?


Canada 2011. It was raining and Button hit Fernando and his car was beached on he kerb. I hated that race! :down:

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 19:36

Canada 2011. It was raining and Button hit Fernando and his car was beached on he kerb. I hated that race! :down:


I had that one in mind but I actually though that he continued after the punt JB gave him. For every other driver a clear race mistake on their behalf comes to mind easily but Fernando, nothing.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 21:29

Once again Fernando shows the world what a class act he is, flawless race once again. I have only been a die hard F1 fan since the end of '09 and I can't remember him DNF'ing in that time, can anybody tell me when he last did so?


He crashed out in Spa 2010 too.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 21:46

Belgium '10 (his fault)


Very debatable since he had a damaged car by Barrichello, which meant bent steering.

His own fault DNFs, if I don't forget anything, are Monza 2004, Canada 2005 and Canada 2008. Which is not bad in 180+ races.


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Posted 27 June 2012 - 21:53

Very debatable since he had a damaged car by Barrichello, which meant bent steering.

His own fault DNFs, if I don't forget anything, are Monza 2004, Canada 2005 and Canada 2008. Which is not bad in 180+ races.


Fuji 2007 and Monaco 2004 as well.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 21:59

Fuji 2007 and Monaco 2004 as well.


Fuji 2007 had a damaged car too as Vettel hit him.


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Posted 27 June 2012 - 22:09

Fuji 2007 and Monaco 2004 as well.


Fuji 2007 have already answered, and in Monaco 2004 he had Ralf.


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Posted 27 June 2012 - 22:18

Fuji 2007 have already answered, and in Monaco 2004 he had Ralf.


While this is true, there is no need to defend every error. All drivers make them from time to time, but Alonso has been more consistent than most, particularly in the last two years.