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#651 pinkypants

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 19:34

Inside F1: http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/18940469

BBC Quali highlights: http://www.bbc.co.uk...ing_Highlights/

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#652 BRG

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 20:06

Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Media seems to have given me Sky Sports this weekend so I have sampled the Sky F1 coverage for teh first time. The qualifying coverage was fine - hard to tell the difference from teh Beeb to be honest, although Hill/Herbert were less annoying than Eddie and David.

But the GP3 commentator was irritating as he ranted about the safety car laps (with some reason to be fair) but contributed little else. Watched the GP2 race this evening. There was no commentary at all - no apologies or screen announcement at all, just 38 laps of car noises. This seems to me to little short of total incompetence by Sky - even the most crap TV station can usually realise after a few minutes that something is wrong, but Sky didn't notice for an hour, so any initial good impressions are now destroyed. I am unlikely to want to pay for that sort of indifference.


#653 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 20:09

Sky runs the GP2 and GP3 'world feed' which has its own English commentary. Though when I watched GP2 live on Sky it had voices so dunno what went wrong when you watched the replay.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 20:36

I was out all day so was forced into watching highlights on the BBC after I got home (forgot to record Sky coverage). I guess Jake is living his Olympic dream so has abandoned F1, but McKenzie did OK, but I don't think the commentary was up to much.

#655 Vitesse2

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 20:38

Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Media seems to have given me Sky Sports this weekend so I have sampled the Sky F1 coverage for teh first time. The qualifying coverage was fine - hard to tell the difference from teh Beeb to be honest, although Hill/Herbert were less annoying than Eddie and David.

But the GP3 commentator was irritating as he ranted about the safety car laps (with some reason to be fair) but contributed little else. Watched the GP2 race this evening. There was no commentary at all - no apologies or screen announcement at all, just 38 laps of car noises. This seems to me to little short of total incompetence by Sky - even the most crap TV station can usually realise after a few minutes that something is wrong, but Sky didn't notice for an hour, so any initial good impressions are now destroyed. I am unlikely to want to pay for that sort of indifference.

I watched the GP2 replay on Sky and it definitely had commentary. So the problem would appear to me to be something to do with Beardievision. And as Ross says, the commentary is from the GP2 world feed, with no input from Sky or FOM - apart from the fact that they use the same cameras.

#656 BRG

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 20:39

Sky runs the GP2 and GP3 'world feed' which has its own English commentary. Though when I watched GP2 live on Sky it had voices so dunno what went wrong when you watched the replay.

Nor do I, but you would think that someone back at Sky Central might have noticed before the end of the show. Even Eurosport manage that, and they are run by one man and a dog.

#657 EVO2

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 20:42

" I suppose I'll wait for the highlights on BBC then".

No need to wait !

Go to B & Q and buy a £29.95 Ross satellite kit tomorrow morning.
It has everything you need including a box, ground and wall bracket for the dish so you can put it almost anywhere. For Hockenheim just set it on the ground and you can have it up and running before the race starts.

Align it to the Astra 1 satellite at 19.2 degrees using a free iPhone/iPad App and in less than 10 minutes you will have 300+ new channels. The only one we're really interested in is German TV channel 206 - it's RTL and it broadcasts qualifying and every race uninterupted and it's live, legal and it's free ! Turn down the TV sound and listen to the Radio 5 Live commentary.

Can't do anything about the dreadful Legard in qually but at least you get James Allen for the race !




#658 windtravels

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 21:00

" I suppose I'll wait for the highlights on BBC then".

No need to wait !

Go to B & Q and buy a £29.95 Ross satellite kit tomorrow morning.
It has everything you need including a box, ground and wall bracket for the dish so you can put it almost anywhere. For Hockenheim just set it on the ground and you can have it up and running before the race starts.

Align it to the Astra 1 satellite at 19.2 degrees using a free iPhone/iPad App and in less than 10 minutes you will have 300+ new channels. The only one we're really interested in is German TV channel 206 - it's RTL and it broadcasts qualifying and every race with many v annoying partial and full screen adverts throughout but it's live, legal and it's free ! Turn down the TV sound and listen to the Radio 5 Live commentary.

Can't do anything about the dreadful Legard in qually but at least you get James Allen for the race !


ftfy.

#659 pinkypants

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 21:05

I had commentary on GP2 and GP3 on Virgin Media...

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#660 Schumacher7

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 21:47

Nor do I, but you would think that someone back at Sky Central might have noticed before the end of the show. Even Eurosport manage that, and they are run by one man and a dog.

I watched the replay and there was commentary, seems like it was just you.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 21:52

Maybe the wrong surround setting was used?

Sometimes I kill the center channel on purpose, mainly when watching Nascar when I can't take anymore of the stupid commentary. What's left is mostly engine/crowd sounds...

#662 xAtarigeekx

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 21:59

Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Media seems to have given me Sky Sports this weekend so I have sampled the Sky F1 coverage for teh first time. The qualifying coverage was fine - hard to tell the difference from teh Beeb to be honest, although Hill/Herbert were less annoying than Eddie and David.

But the GP3 commentator was irritating as he ranted about the safety car laps (with some reason to be fair) but contributed little else.


The GP2 and GP3 commentator is Will Buxton, SPEED's F1 pitlane reporter. He does the world feed of GP2 and GP3 for FOM so nothing to do with Sky.

Edited by xAtarigeekx, 21 July 2012 - 22:01.


#663 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 22:06

I had commentary on both races on Sky, so either it was specific to you, or it was a general VM problem.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 22:45

" I suppose I'll wait for the highlights on BBC then".

No need to wait !

Go to B & Q and buy a £29.95 Ross satellite kit tomorrow morning.
It has everything you need including a box, ground and wall bracket for the dish so you can put it almost anywhere. For Hockenheim just set it on the ground and you can have it up and running before the race starts.

Align it to the Astra 1 satellite at 19.2 degrees using a free iPhone/iPad App and in less than 10 minutes you will have 300+ new channels. The only one we're really interested in is German TV channel 206 - it's RTL and it broadcasts qualifying and every race uninterupted and it's live, legal and it's free ! Turn down the TV sound and listen to the Radio 5 Live commentary.

Can't do anything about the dreadful Legard in qually but at least you get James Allen for the race !


Your tone suggests you think that's a good thing :confused:


#665 F1EC

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:20

Good heavens! Just watching Sky at a friends house, and it's mind-numbingly, slit-my-wrists-now dull. Is this what it's normally like?

eta: to explain further, I was watching the interview with JB. Way too long. In the lead-up to a race I want to know what's going on at the track. Interviews should be short and snappy.

eta: argh. They still have that annoying repetitive music in the background. My eardrums are bleeding. My conclusion so far, an hour or so before the race, is that I could watch the race itself on Sky but not the lead-up.

Edited by F1EC, 22 July 2012 - 10:43.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:38

Good heavens! Just watching Sky at a friends house, and it's mind-numbingly, slit-my-wrists-now dull. Is this what it's normally like?

eta: to explain further, I was watching the interview with JB. Way too long. In the lead-up to a race I want to know what's going on at the track. Interviews should be short and snappy.


LOL That was a filler to hide the fact that they don't have Porsche coverage

#667 F1EC

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:43

LOL That was a filler to hide the fact that they don't have Porsche coverage


Ah. Thanks for that.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:07

The McLaren animation thing was surprisingly good (I didn't really pay it any attention at Silverstone!). 'Lewis your beard has slipped' :rotfl:

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:09

Also the James Hunt thing was amazing, sadly I've not caught any of the Nigel Roebuck series so far. I hope Sky can repeat them later.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:10

The McLaren animation thing was surprisingly good (I didn't really pay it any attention at Silverstone!). 'Lewis your beard has slipped' :rotfl:


Even as a McLaren fan I enjoyed that more than I expected, light hearted fun.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:34

Tuned in to the Sky coverage for the first time courtesy of Virgin

I started at 12:10 UT

It's now 20 mins later and all I've seen is one interview with LH and SV, 5 mins of pointless basketball and two sets of ads

I thought Brundle said he joined SKY for the technical coverage opportunities?

Isn't there an engine mapping issue going on right now (12:33 UT)?

pfff

Here's hoping the race coverage is better...

Doubt I'll ever up paying for this carp

#672 D.M.N.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:39

Sky started the programme with the engine mapping issue, at 11:30. It's not their fault you tuned in 40 minutes late.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:41

I really despise the way some drivers make brundle (and everyone watching) wait when it's not necesary. Fair enough if in a conversation but if standing there doing nothing makes them look like complete princesses :down:

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:42

Tuned in to the Sky coverage for the first time courtesy of Virgin

I started at 12:10 UT

It's now 20 mins later and all I've seen is one interview with LH and SV, 5 mins of pointless basketball and two sets of ads

I thought Brundle said he joined SKY for the technical coverage opportunities?

Isn't there an engine mapping issue going on right now (12:33 UT)?

pfff

Here's hoping the race coverage is better...

Doubt I'll ever up paying for this carp


Any different to the BBC having Jake playing F1 2010 or whatever with Hamilton and his brother?

Sky have an hour and a half of build up, they have the time to do things like that. Did you see the piece on James Hunt? It was brilliant.

And they discussed the engine mapping issue, in detail, until it was resolved!

Edited by xAtarigeekx, 22 July 2012 - 11:43.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:43

Tuned in to the Sky coverage for the first time courtesy of Virgin

I started at 12:10 UT

It's now 20 mins later and all I've seen is one interview with LH and SV, 5 mins of pointless basketball and two sets of ads

I thought Brundle said he joined SKY for the technical coverage opportunities?

Isn't there an engine mapping issue going on right now (12:33 UT)?

pfff

Here's hoping the race coverage is better...

Doubt I'll ever up paying for this carp


Yesterday he talked about the ECU (trip to Mclaren Electronic Systems) and last race he talked about the start procedures with a 2010 Ferrari.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:45

"Nico...Nico, any chance for a quickie?"

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:47

Jesus, that makes EJ look sensible.

#678 natureboy

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:48

Nico and quickie :lol:

Brundle and Tanya :lol: :lol:

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:53

An hours build up, no ads, a couple of segments and short snappy interviews with the top drivers is all you need.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:55

An hours build up, no ads, a couple of segments and short snappy interviews with the top drivers is all you need.


But with Sky you can have even more! :p

#681 EVO2

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:58

Your tone suggests you think that's a good thing :confused:


It's certainly better than any of the alternatives :

1. Miss the race
2. Have Legard do the commentary
3. Pay Sky £45 per month just to watch 12 races.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:59

Croft talking shite already, it wasn't Raikkonen talking about his tyres it was his engineer.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:00

An hours build up, no ads, a couple of segments and short snappy interviews with the top drivers is all you need.


If the BBC DC and EJ farting into the mic you#d say that's 'all you need'.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:08

An hours build up, no ads, a couple of segments and short snappy interviews with the top drivers is all you need.


Watching all races live is all I need. The build up etc. is a bonus.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 13:50

Regarding the world feed and the new podium interviews, they really need someone consistent and trained at interviewing to ask the questions. Lauda is a legend but that was really disappointing and ameatur looking. Why bother remaking the podiums and adding shiny confetti and glamming it all up then having such useless interviews...

It brings the fans closer, but closer to something second rate.

#686 RedBaron

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 13:51

Croft talking shite already, it wasn't Raikkonen talking about his tyres it was his engineer.


I am sure they were kidding then...

#687 Slowinfastout

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 14:03

I much prefer the old proper interviews with the pots of fruit juice and real questions

Edited by Slowinfastout, 22 July 2012 - 14:03.


#688 RedBaron

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 14:15

Haha Damon Hill sticking it to Christian Horner nicely!

#689 Jon83

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 16:16

Regarding the world feed and the new podium interviews, they really need someone consistent and trained at interviewing to ask the questions. Lauda is a legend but that was really disappointing and ameatur looking. Why bother remaking the podiums and adding shiny confetti and glamming it all up then having such useless interviews...

It brings the fans closer, but closer to something second rate.


They have tried to fix something that wasn't broken. It was rubbish at Silverstone and the same here.

The actual podium itself looks like something from a PS3 game now.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 16:31

Amazing the things we complain about! My whinge is that they used Heidelberg for the scene setting rather than the more mundane Hockenheim - think they are dishonest t5o do this.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 16:41

Yesterday he talked about the ECU (trip to Mclaren Electronic Systems) and last race he talked about the start procedures with a 2010 Ferrari.



My mistake

I tuned in too late

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 16:43

I much prefer the old proper interviews with the pots of fruit juice and real questions


Same, it just feels so awkward watching them on the podium.

Id like a standard question answerer if they are going to do it.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 16:44

Watching all races live is all I need. The build up etc. is a bonus.

This is what matters :up:

My whinge is that they used Heidelberg for the scene setting rather than the more mundane Hockenheim - think they are dishonest t5o do this.

lol I noticed that too
cheaters

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 17:31

Watching all races live is all I need. The build up etc. is a bonus.

I haven't really watched the build up since 2010, don't care for it any more either. Nowadays I get annoyed just watching the formation lap too, just show me the damned lights! No patience whatsoever for me.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 18:20

Lazenby playing basketball with his casual shirt tucked in was one of the most uncomfortable bits of television i've seen in a while, especially with his 'street speak' to Seb.



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Posted 22 July 2012 - 18:21

Lazenby playing basketball with his casual shirt tucked in was one of the most uncomfortable bits of television i've seen in a while, especially with his 'street speak' to Seb.


Had to laugh at Seb's 'Campbell condensed soup' t-shirt during that feature!

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 18:22

Had to laugh at Seb's 'Campbell condensed soup' t-shirt during that feature!


Only redeeming feature of that particular car crash!

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 18:28

Wasn't a big fan of Georgie earlier in the season but the one good thing about this 'sky pad' is the exceptional side-on view you get of her :up:

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 18:38

Wasn't a big fan of Georgie earlier in the season but the one good thing about this 'sky pad' is the exceptional side-on view you get of her :up:


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 18:55

Lazenby's still so awkward to watch when he presents the guy needs to loosen up a bit.