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#251 undersquare

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:34

Does it matter??? People moan at anything.

Infact Goodwood isn't F1 so why would it be on in an F1 channel? Nascar highlights aren't, Indycars aren't DTM isn't and other Motorsport programmes aren't. So it's not foolish. Moan moan moan.

Well it matters if you want to watch it and don't have SS2. Why are you moaning about someone posting their disappointment? Some other non-F1 series are on SSF1.

Some people are always bitching about people :cat:

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#252 undersquare

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:38

could be worse, could be maurice hamilton

Lol, so true, things can always get worse :lol:

#253 Kvothe

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:42

McNish only states the obvious, it seems to me. If you digest his words. I just heard the first new thing after 3+ hours: Toyota used to use 400 engines in a season!

It's so clear he's been out of F1 for 10 years. It'd be less irritating if it wasn't all delivered in that portentous, knowing style. I find Ant far more interesting and likeable, personally.


I'm just easy ;), and tbh 99 per cent of the time the commentators in free practice are either stating the obvious or regurgitating the same information and phrases from the myriad other practice sessions I've watched. I did like the way he got Ted to go actively to Ferrari to find out what's happening, and he seems to have calmed Crofty down somewhat.

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#254 swerved

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:45

Mcnish is class, he flows really well when explaining his views. Has he done any commentary prior to this in other sports?


He's a real natural, he was commenting way back in 93 for star sports, I think he's been something of a revelation, as you say he just flows and is obviously at ease, hope they use him again :up:


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:49

And he's got a real keen eye for detail to remember that slight difference in the FW, best be used again.

#256 chrisblades85

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:55

Well it matters if you want to watch it and don't have SS2. Why are you moaning about someone posting their disappointment? Some other non-F1 series are on SSF1.

Some people are always bitching about people :cat:


This thread makes me bitch!

#257 jrg19

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:59

Anyone think McNish and Brundle would be great?

#258 Kvothe

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:01

And he's got a real keen eye for detail to remember that slight difference in the FW, best be used again.


:up:

#259 swerved

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:05

Anyone think McNish and Brundle would be great?



I would say thats a dream combination, McNish is making Crofty sound stale,staid, and uninteresting, as has been said his attention to detail has been great, I've noticed he's also been able to recall where drivers have been cautious on the kerbs and where they've later been more aggressive, him with Brundle would be great. :up:

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#260 undersquare

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:14

Anyone think McNish and Brundle would be great?

No! Well, not me anyway. I'd have Crofty and Ant on main commentary.

Brundle is good but a bit inclined to make mistakes these days, making assumptions and claiming a bit more knowledge than he has from time to time.

McNish - I don't get the love for him in the last few posts at all, I think he's terrible! All emphatic and sooo Expert but he doesn't seem to know much that Crofty doesn't. Though it is a taste thing I guess.

#261 D.M.N.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:14

McNish was great in Monaco when he appeared on Sky Sports F1, and he's been great again yesterday and today. Much better than d'Ambrosio in my opinion. :up:

#262 D.M.N.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:40

Friday 29th June - Sky F1
19:00 - 1964 British/European Grand Prix
19:40 - 1950 British Grand Prix
20:00 - The F1 Show
21:00 to 22:00 - 1956 Formula One season

And it looks like there is a live edition of The F1 Show on Thursday 5th July at 20:00.

Tom Clarkson is still out in Valencia for BBC, so they have one extra person this weekend.

#263 pinkypants

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:11

BBC coverage starting now

#264 ali.unal

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:15

SKY's FP3 highlight was as bad as it could ever be. They totally don't know how to prepare a highlight video failing to cover all important points like Vettel's last minute sector times, Webber's "brake" issue not hydraulic. It seems they see those videos as burden to get rid of at once.

#265 Sinceref189

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:39

Very interesting about the demands and upcoming drivers in formula ford , nice one bbc :up:

#266 ultrapro

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:43

Eddie could be on for another shirt malfunction here.

#267 D.M.N.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 18:24

Sky are showing Classic British GP's starting next Friday at 18:00. :up:

#268 Snic

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 18:28

Sky are showing Classic British GP's starting next Friday at 18:00. :up:


:up:
Which ones?

#269 D.M.N.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 19:17

:up:
Which ones?

See my post above for Friday's, here's Saturday's:

Saturday 30th June - Sky F1
18:00 - 2007 British Grand Prix
20:00 - The F1 Show ( R )
21:00 - Grand Prix Classics: Stirling Moss tribute
21:40 - 2008 British Grand Prix

#270 xAtarigeekx

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:04

Dat dress

#271 Longtimefan

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:06

Dat dress


Shame she's dog ugly ;)

On another note, they should get Karun more often, the guy is awesome and a true passionate f1 fan.


Edited by Longtimefan, 24 June 2012 - 11:07.


#272 xAtarigeekx

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:14

Shame she's dog ugly ;)

On another note, they should get Karun more often, the guy is awesome and a true passionate f1 fan.


I really like the way Sky are getting various guest presenters involved. Obviously part of it is due to Ant Davidson being injured, but getting JV, McNish, Karun, Nick Heidfeld etc all on the show is a real plus point

#273 wrighty

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:30

....ad can i just say, having watched the pitstop feature, Sky have brought Natalie Pinkham to 'front of house' (to use a catering term lol) and she's just brilliant!!

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:46

DCs grid walk :lol:

#275 undersquare

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:48

....ad can i just say, having watched the pitstop feature, Sky have brought Natalie Pinkham to 'front of house' (to use a catering term lol) and she's just brilliant!!

Yeah Natalie's been a real find :up:

#276 undersquare

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:02

Sky running 5 minutes behind again :confused:

#277 pinkypants

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:04

DCs grid walk :lol:


really enjoying BBCs coverage today :)

#278 King Six

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:25

Is it BBC or is it FOM, because someone has turned the volume down for the cars/ambient sounds to near zero and all I can practically hear is the commentary. :down:

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:48

Did james allen get dropped dy bbc then? Having to put up with legard again.

Edited by windtravels, 24 June 2012 - 12:48.


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#280 expert

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 14:02

Did Eddie just claim credit for the Ferrari win? LOL

#281 pRy

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 16:55

Ben Edwards got very very shouty at one point today. I don't mind a bit of emotion but he just seemed to go way over the top.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 17:05

Ben Edwards got very very shouty at one point today. I don't mind a bit of emotion but he just seemed to go way over the top.


I enjoyed it. He wasn't shouting for shouting's sake, he was reflecting the excitement on track. I thought he and DC were very good this race, and that the BBC coverage was, on the whole, excellent this weekend. EJ is a bit of a wild card, but he adds colour and interest.

I'm beginning to think Brundle held them all back - they've improved on last year, and I didn't think there was room for improvement.

I haven't read all the comments from yesterday, so it may have been mentioned - the start of yesterday's Quali broadcast where Hamilton was talking through his Canada win was inspired. I wonder who picks the music?

#283 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 17:08

Most of the time I forget David Coulthard has raced in, and even won, in F1.

#284 PapaD

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 17:47

Edwards was excellent today. His voice going all high pitched when Maldonado hit Hamilton was hilarious. :lol:

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 17:58

Someone should buy Coulthard a thesaurus because he needs a synonym for the word "crucial".

Edited by dank, 24 June 2012 - 18:00.


#286 phil1993

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 18:06

'But was he ov-ohHIIIIIIIIIIIIT'

Best commentary of 2012 IMO. Energetic, enthusiastic and brilliant.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 18:14

Ben Edwards got very very shouty at one point today. I don't mind a bit of emotion but he just seemed to go way over the top.


I thought it was brilliant.

EJ had a real downer on Kimi today. Next race, if Kimi wins, it will be a different story of course.

#288 jrg19

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 18:21

BBC commentary is so much more enjoyable than Skys.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 18:36

BBC always seem so fickle, seem to have really short memories and judge things on the latest thing to have happened and not the bigger picture.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 21:03

Am I the only one who can't stand BBC? They are so depressing. Brundle & Crofty are just right.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 21:13

I thought Brundle and Croft were very poor for not spotting that Hamilton was under investigation. It was actually on the screen with an FOM message, and they just didn't even acknowledge it at all

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 21:27

I thought Brundle and Croft were very poor for not spotting that Hamilton was under investigation. It was actually on the screen with an FOM message, and they just didn't even acknowledge it at all


I agree that was unfortunate. It also made my family think *I* was stupid for thinking Lewis was under investigation.

However, that is just a mistake. Mistakes happen, I prefer the enjoyment of the work and I get so much more enjoyment from Croft & Brundle.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 21:47

I watched it live on Sky then watched a repeated stream of the BBC, both were good but had their problems.

as much as I like Ben Edwards his YELLING did really annoy me in several places, theres no need to yell, I know its exciting, I am already excited and your yelling only irritates me.



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Posted 24 June 2012 - 22:01

I forgot to sky+ the race on Sky, so I ended up watching it on the Iplayer instead and I have to say the commentary was good but ONLY the commentary!
For me Sky and BBC are on par with the commentary however the pre race show and the race analysis Sky wins hands down, I simply can't stand that smug Humphrey who only cares about getting up the ladder and no need to explain why I can't take EJ seriously!

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 22:36

Did Eddie just claim credit for the Ferrari win? LOL


yeah I re,ember him saying that to Fry :rotfl:

BBC always seem so fickle, seem to have really short memories and judge things on the latest thing to have happened and not the bigger picture.

That is true, but it is mainly Eddie, and you can't help but love how he does that.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 23:26

I simply can't stand that smug Humphrey who only cares about getting up the ladder


I find it bizarre when people say they know what other people *only* care about". You and I have absolutely no idea what he does and doesn't care about, but I imagine it's probably fair to guess he doesn't *only* care about his career.

Do you disapprove of people who have careers? In which case, what do you think of the people who jumped ship to Sky? They decided not to risk staying with an award-winning F1 broadcaster. They decided to look after their own careers because their future at the BBC looked uncertain. And who knows, maybe they decided to jump ship because they were offered more money. They certainly didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts, for you and for the viewing public. Does that make them bad? They all have careers to think of, just like you and me. Jake Humphrey's career success comes from doing his job well, i.e. pleasing the majority of people who watch him. I expect if/when you're successful in your own career, you expect a certain amount of respect for it, not to be told you *only* care about getting up the ladder.

#297 King Six

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 00:53

Gary Anderson for me is quickly becoming one of my favourite 'pundits' for the BBC. His technical explanations are top notch, and his prediction capabilities are scarily accurate. I remember a few races back he was predicting the qualifying times and he was pretty much dead on. He really knows his shit, but then again he would, he's designed race winning F1 cars...

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:28

Did james allen get dropped dy bbc then? Having to put up with legard again.


No, JA was always going to commentate on X races, not all of them.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:48

I forgot to sky+ the race on Sky, so I ended up watching it on the Iplayer instead and I have to say the commentary was good but ONLY the commentary!
For me Sky and BBC are on par with the commentary however the pre race show and the race analysis Sky wins hands down, I simply can't stand that smug Humphrey who only cares about getting up the ladder and no need to explain why I can't take EJ seriously!


Jake made another fairly smug reference to the Sky team yesterday at the end of the interview with Di Resta.

Somebody needs to remind him that Sky are not the enemy here. The BBC are the ones who have ballsed up yet are still able to pay the likes of Alan Hansen, Gary Linekar and Alan Shearer an absolute fortune for a few hours work each week whilst watering down their award-winning F1 coverage, claiming it was too expensive.

I think Jake is better than Simon (though has years more experience) but to be honest, he isn't that good and I'd be quite happy if Lee presented the BBC coverage and Georgie presented Sky's.



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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:23

Pre-race: Don't watch so can't comment

Race: I prefer Sky's coverage. I was always a Ben Edwards advocate but he just isn't doing it for me. Crofty and Brundle have the perfect mix of colour and information, BE and DC just sound like shreeking girls.

Post-race: I'd say BBC still have the edge, i often find myself flicking over for the Forum (when it's on) as it's a lighter and less formal affair.

Regarding Jake, yeah he gets on my wick. His constant Sky jabs are tedious (especially when it's his paymasters who are the real criminals in this case). Also, i'm ashamed to admit that i fired him a rather unsavory 'tweet' when the split was first announced. He displayed an initial attitude of 'Come on, it's not that bigger deal, we still have half of the races! Besides, we have the Olympics to look forward to in 2012' which razzed me right off.