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[jj2728]

No. 5 (pictured) was 1031 driven by Andretti/Ginther,

1047 was no. 6 driven by Foyt/Gurney.

Foyt/Gurney drove the number 3 car, this is it:




Hulme/Ruby drove the number 6 car, this is it:



So, I guess the Hulme/Ruby car was 1047 then, correct?
I do have color photos of said Fords, but in deferrence to Mr. Spain, you'll just have to wait for the release of his updated Ford GT40 book to view them!

All photos Copyright JAG

[elansprint72]

Me too, but I'm not talking about the moderns.

The one I'm wondering whether you photographed at all was built in 1971. The first time such a car has ever set 'foot' on French - or indeed mainland European - soil, as far as I'm aware.

An interesting curiosity for some, maybe?

Looks like I missed it. The display seemed to consist of dreary-looking modern cars and there were some "security types" swaggering about, perhaps I should have wandered over. What exactly did I miss? There was a nice-looking Fairlady somewhere else but I'm afraid my knowledge of Japanese cars is almost non-existent.

[PS30-SB]

Looks like I missed it. The display seemed to consist of dreary-looking modern cars and there were some "security types" swaggering about, perhaps I should have wandered over. What exactly did I miss? There was a nice-looking Fairlady somewhere else but I'm afraid my knowledge of Japanese cars is almost non-existent.

I think they were the same security bods that you would have got past to get into the Nissan-sponsored 'Concours' arena in the first place. I think they had been tasked primarily with making sure that the queue at the gate was always at least 20 metres long...

Not to worry, you didn't miss anything to compare with Okano san's shiny new jukebox...

[elansprint72]

Foyt/Gurney drove the number 3 car, this is it:




Hulme/Ruby drove the number 6 car, this is it:



So, I guess the Hulme/Ruby car was 1047 then, correct?
I do have color photos of said Fords, but in deferrence to Mr. Spain, you'll just have to wait for the release of his updated Ford GT40 book to view them!

All photos Copyright JAG

Spain says that Ruby/Hulme were driving a silver car with two thin black stripes, 1046 the 66 Le Mans winner this he says was a Holman & (sic) Moody car whilst he has 1047 as a Shelby car, red with white stripes for Foyt/Gurney. That is #3 in your photo, this is confirmed in The Ford the beat Ferrari, showing" AJ getting into 1047 (No3)".

Edited by elansprint72, 20 July 2012 - 11:46.

[arttidesco]

I do have color photos of said Fords, but in deferrence to Mr. Spain, you'll just have to wait for the release of his updated Ford GT40 book to view them!

All photos Copyright JAG

Some colour pics of the Fords at Daytona in 1967 have long been available on the net at racingsportscars.com, I guess we will still have to wait for the revised book to find out if the chassis numbers are correct

[Kpy]

The original Ronnie Spain book states:
The three Shelby cars were the previous year's winner, no. 1015, for Bucknum/Gardner, 1047 for Foyt/Gurney and 1012 for McLaren/Bianchi. They were finished in dark blue with white stripes, red with white stripes, and yellow with black stripes, respectively. Holman & Moody's cars were the 1966 Le Mans winner 1046, now painted silver, for Ruby/Hulme, gold-painted 1016 for Donohue/Revson and bronze 1031 for Andretti/Ginther. Each had two thin black centre stripes.

There's nothing on this thread that would suggest that the above will change in a new edition; the Daytona race was four months before Le Mans.

[elansprint72]

There's nothing on this thread that would suggest that the above will change in a new edition; the Daytona race was four months before Le Mans.

I think we all agree on that; it's what happened after Le Mans which will be of interest.

[ianrand]

Elansprint72 (Pete)

Thank you for posting the high quality photos of HM 1047 at 2012 LeMans Classic! Much appreciated.

[elansprint72]

[Lee Nicolle]

We sometimes think that way in Europe, but a lot of Detroit iron casting was so good that the blocks were not much heavier than light alloy ones of equivalent strength.

Those FE engines are a big heavy, though strong and reliable lump. I have worked on them. And in comparison to the 289W which even by modern standards is a very small light engine.
I suspect the 427 with accescories would be close to double the 289.Though the 289 running at 7500 plus compared with about [I am told] 6000 for the 427 would be less reliable. Though the 427s stump pulling torque would be a challenge for the gearbox.
In Nascar though the 427s were turned quite hard and the oiling was a challenge for Ford. Hence the 'side oiler'

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 18 October 2013 - 06:15.