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#1 THE "driverider"

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:10

Simple question, circuits such as Monaco, Isle of Man and Bathurst are excluded for obvious reasons.

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#2 taz

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:16

Spa-Francorchamps

#3 Starish

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:17

Laguna Seca... Fuji

#4 chrisblades85

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:26

Barhain.

#5 DracoN

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:34

Zandvoort

#6 Alx09

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:42

Spa

#7 TheWilliamzer

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:50

Imola. San Marino.

#8 george1981

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 17:57

Spa

#9 sadsac72

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:04

SPA , SUZUKA MONZA :drunk: :love:

#10 Bunchies

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:04

Suzuka, obviously.

#11 MattPete

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:11

Suzuka, Road America, Spa (is Spa technically 'permanent'?)

#12 SonnyViceR

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:15

Nordschleife of course

#13 Brandz07

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:17

Spa!

#14 jee

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:18

Nordschleife of course


Not a permanent racing circuit

#15 DanardiF1

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:25

Suzuka for me over Spa as Suzuka was specifically designed as a race track, whereas Spa as it is now was more borne out of necessity to shrink it down from the older track that included public road sections.

#16 stanga

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:25

Spa

#17 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:26

Spa or Suzuka. Hard choice.

#18 evol88

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:34

Imola. San Marino.


Are you talking about the circuit before it was neutered? The post-Senna races were, by and large, a snooze-fest.

Personally, it's an obvious choice but I've always enjoyed Spa

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#19 Skinnyguy

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 18:38

Today, Suzuka. It´s the one of the great circuits that has resisted better the attack of the stupid tarmac runoffs.

Not that long ago, I liked Spa better, but the Bus Stop and La Source changes, plus the tarmac runoffs everywhere have hurted it badly.

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#20 pingu666

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:02

is spa really closed off to the public traffic all the time? as it was certainly mostly/all public roads at the start

#21 tifosiMac

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:04

Silverstone, without a doubt IMO.

#22 ForzaGTR

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:06

Spa.

#23 MrAerodynamicist

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:25

I do have a lot of fondness for Oulton Park.

#24 MrFondue

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:31

Not a permanent racing circuit


What's not permanent about the Ring?


#25 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:34

Not a permanent racing circuit


The Nurburgring is permanent and purpose built for racing. It certainly counts.

#26 TheWilliamzer

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:37

Are you talking about the circuit before it was neutered? The post-Senna races were, by and large, a snooze-fest.

Personally, it's an obvious choice but I've always enjoyed Spa

I find both layouts amazing.

It's almost the only track I play on my videogame! :p

#27 tifosiMac

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:38

Not a permanent racing circuit

Its about as permanent as they come.

#28 BigCHrome

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:46

Spa was finally killed off after the stupid changes in 2011, so Suzuka is the best track left. Nurburgring GP is also quite good.

Edited by BigCHrome, 01 July 2012 - 19:47.


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Posted 01 July 2012 - 19:51

The Nordschliefe or Spa, neither of which are actually permanent circuits according to this BB.

Other than those, I guess it would be Elkhart Lake or Suzuka.

#30 Amphicar

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:00

The Nordschliefe or Spa, neither of which are actually permanent circuits according to this BB.

Other than those, I guess it would be Elkhart Lake or Suzuka.

Spa, like Le Mans, was originally composed of public roads but it is now a segregated circuit. The Nordschliefe however, was built from the start as a racing circuit and was never public road. The real oddity is The AVUS, which was built as a racing circuit and much later became part of an autobahn.

#31 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:03

Spa was finally killed off after the stupid changes in 2011, so Suzuka is the best track left. Nurburgring GP is also quite good.


I don't remember them making any changes last year :confused:

#32 Raziel

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:04

Suzuka, obviously.


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#33 Theturkeyprize

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:17

Spa-francorchamps, without a shadow of a doubt!

#34 BigCHrome

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:25

I don't remember them making any changes last year :confused:


They've moved back the walls on the outside of the corner after Les Combes. It really ruins that part of the track for the viewer.

#35 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:26

Nordschleife definetly.

#36 dgsg

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:31

Willow Springs and RIP, Riverside.

#37 Rob

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:38

The Nordschleife.

#38 Fulcrum

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:41

Road Atlanta

#39 Dispenser89

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:46

No doubt, Nordschleife.

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#40 nordschleife

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 20:56

Hmm ... let's see ... okay, I'm going with der Nordschleife.

#41 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:01

They've moved back the walls on the outside of the corner after Les Combes. It really ruins that part of the track for the viewer.


So no changes then...

Never mind cutting the track in half in 1979. Never mind changing the bus stop numerous times in the past decade. It's that minor change of a wall that finally killed it off. :rolleyes:

I think some perspective is in order.

#42 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:03

Road Atlanta


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That's one of my favourites. The US has an amazing number of great road courses considering that the sport is so oval centric. IMO there's no real answer to this thread's question though. There are so many good tracks.

#43 greenman

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:15

I'm with the guy who said Spa, Suzuka and Elkhart Lake (Road America). With Spa, I prefer the previous version (before changes to Bus stop and the start/finish "straight"). Actually, the old 14 km circuit looked even mightier, but it's hard to judge today (and I can't really call that one a permanent circuit right). Laguna Seca is awesome looking as well, though it lacks some overtaking opportunities.

#44 pizzalover

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:20

Based on my sim experience Suzuka. I think it and Spa are the drivers favourites. Not sure which one edges it, Suzuka I believe.

#45 One

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:24

I would say José Carlos Pace for the eventful races we witnessed over the years, then Spa and then asuzuka, Silverstone.
Apparently barcelOna does not count which is a shame.

#46 BigCHrome

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:29

So no changes then...

Never mind cutting the track in half in 1979. Never mind changing the bus stop numerous times in the past decade. It's that minor change of a wall that finally killed it off. :rolleyes:

I think some perspective is in order.


The 1960s Spa was not good at all. If we had that track now, everyone would be complaining about how boring it is to watch the cars drive in the straight line for 10 minutes. The bus stop change was very bad but the wall change is the straw that broke the camel's back.

#47 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:33

The 1960s Spa was not good at all. If we had that track now, everyone would be complaining about how boring it is to watch the cars drive in the straight line for 10 minutes. The bus stop change was very bad but the wall change is the straw that broke the camel's back.


I've only ever heard that it was a great track...back then. Not that it's really relevant to this thread because it wasn't permanent back then. Bit still, a great track in it's own time. However I still think you're being a bit dramatic considering that the track itself didn't change last year.

#48 Aieljose

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:39

Id say Silverstone but before all the changes. Has both fast and slow sectors where both aero and mechanical grip is important. The unpredictable weather just adds that extra element to the equation. A true classic.

#49 BetaVersion

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:41

Barhain.

Imola. San Marino.


Troll :p

Spa is overated. Their hyped little corners of Eau Rouge and Blanchimont are stupidly easy flat out sections. Road America is wayyyyyyy better

Edited by BetaVersion, 01 July 2012 - 21:42.


#50 BigCHrome

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 21:42

I think Aragon is also quite good, especially for a new track.