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Maria de Villota suffers testing crash at Duxford [split]


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#1151 Muppetmad

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:47

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101499

Autosport are now reporting that Maria has left hospital (although looking at the last few posts this is perhaps old news). I never realised she lost her right eye, how awful :(

Edited by Muppetmad, 26 July 2012 - 09:48.


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#1152 Absulute

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:40

Yes it is awful.

We just have to hope she can recover well and live a normal life.

All the best, Maria.

#1153 tabovilla

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:44

We all wish her good luck and a speedy recovery.

#1154 Peat

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:58

A truck transporting farm workers was hit by a train at a level crossing, killing everybody in the truck and scattering body parts over hundreds of yards. Predictably, the government HSE suits wailed "it's unthinkable in this day and age that farm workers should be transported by truck. We must pass a law mandating that farmers must only transport workers in buses with safety belts for each passenger." That's fine for a govt employee sitting in an office with a guaranteed salary. Let that same guy run a farm and see what he thinks then. Farmers are taking strain. Most of them are up to their armpits in loans and the banks are tightening up on repayment terms because they're terrified of "toxic debt" a la Lehmann Bros. The international situation has caused one of the farmer's biggest inputs (fuel cost) to skyrocket and there have been knock-on effects for their other inputs like fertilizer and seeds. Due to unemployment, criminal attacks on farms are increasing so the farmer has to spend more on security. Unions are demanding higher wages for farm workers. Yet supermarkets are demanding lower (or static) wholesale prices for produce. Because they, too, are struggling to survive. This is the farmer's daily reality.

Most farmers will own one or even several trucks because it's essential for farming. You need a vehicle to deliver produce to market and also to fetch supplies like bags of seed or fertilizer or cement. So the truck doubles up as transport for workers too, it's not something extra that the farmer has to buy. Now HSE want him to buy a bus purely to transport workers, it has no other use on the farm. With all these other cost factors to consider, where is the farmer going to find the funds to buy a bus?? It's not going to happen. And even if they pass a law to that effect, it won't be enforced. Farms are distant properties in unpopulated areas, there are no cops within miles of them. So the farmers will just keep doing what they've always done, it's unrealistic to expect them to change just because some HSE regulation says they must.


This is where the HSE lot let themselves down and get thier bad name.

They sometimes focus on the wrong part of the accident. They weren't killed because they were in the back of a pick-up, they were killed because they were hit by a flippin' train!!

What country was that in may i ask?

I'm of agricultural stock here in the UK and see alot of this nonsense.

#1155 saudoso

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:21

On the farming thing, a T-Boned bus would make not much better..

#1156 smoothcrim

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 13:46

Any pictures or a full report on the injuries she sustained?

Lucky not to have sustained any brain damage if indeed she hasnt.

#1157 Tony Mandara

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 14:20

Any pictures or a full report on the injuries she sustained?

Lucky not to have sustained any brain damage if indeed she hasnt.


http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101499


A statement on her behalf said de Villota, 32, had not suffered any neurological injuries.




Plastic surgery will be needed for 'substancial serious facial inuries'. (and of course she lost an eye)

I woudln't expect pictures for quite some time. But good to hear she has suffered no neurological injuries.



Edit: Correction.

Edited by Tony Mandara, 26 July 2012 - 14:25.


#1158 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 14:31

Is it lost the eye or lost the sight in the eye?

#1159 Tony Mandara

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 14:36

All reports point to that she lost the eye, not the use of it.

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#1160 midgrid

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 22:15

It's great to read that she is recovering quickly, and that there is no brain damage. Hopefully the effects of the injuries she as suffered, including the trauma, can be minimised to the fullest extent possible.

Are there any further updates in the Spanish press regarding her recovery?

#1161 puxanando

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 22:28

spanish article

...don't look good... :|

#1162 superstring

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 23:01

spanish article

...don't look good... :|


Web translation:

"María de Villota continues with her recovery in Oviedo.

As I guess most will know, last Thursday, María de Villota, Formula one Marussia team, received medical discharge after being entered for six days in Madrid hospital Universitario La Paz, according reported the same medical center.
Remember that Maria de Villota had on July 3 a serious accident in England while he played a few days of testing with your team Marussia. After entered for 17 days in the Addembrook's of Cambridge hospital was repatriated to Spain on a medical plane last Saturday 21.

In the same communiqué issued by the Hospital de la Paz, detailing a small part doctor:' the patient is in good general condition, for which she received the discharge from hospital. In these six days of income, has been treated by specialists in plastic surgery, neurosurgery and ophthalmology services which will continue seeing it as you need it to undergo periodic treatments in the Center and trails ', detailing the medical part.

It specifies that 'from the neurosurgical point of view, it had no neurological deficit, so it does not require intervention'.
'As already reported at the time, the patient has lost his right eye due to the serious involvement of the same and will continue to be controlled by the service of Ophthalmology,' he recalled.
Note also that the specialists in plastic surgery specifies 'are responsible for tracking of serious facial injuries and the correction of its sequels'.

According to reports the 'New Spain', yesterday was in Oviedo and was put in the hands of the Fernandez-vega, goldsmiths of ophthalmology. His clinic was a "professional consultation" wrapped in mystery and silence, with the commitment of a revision.

At 11.15 pm yesterday, a black Mercedes appeared quiet for the parking of the health centre. María de Villota, fell with her brothers Emilio and Elizabeth by any escort, path of the door of the Fernandez-vega ophthalmological Institute. Texans, Slayer of halftime and white shirt on the outside of the pants. Hair shaved after operations in the head, scars to the view and a blue patch at the place of the lost eye. Unable to find a smile, not a word crossed the three brothers between the car and the entrance, in the video of their arrival recorded that LA NUEVA ESPAÑA and which will not be made public at the request of the family. Nor in the photographs. María de Villota appeared serious, something absent, but determined to step on."

Edited by superstring, 31 July 2012 - 23:07.


#1163 puxanando

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:47

HERE in english

#1164 Rich

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:23

This is where the HSE lot let themselves down and get thier bad name.

They sometimes focus on the wrong part of the accident. They weren't killed because they were in the back of a pick-up, they were killed because they were hit by a flippin' train!!

What country was that in may i ask?

I'm of agricultural stock here in the UK and see alot of this nonsense.


Sorry, didn't see this until now. This incident happened in South Africa.

#1165 TimRTC

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:43

At 11.15 pm yesterday, a black Mercedes appeared quiet for the parking of the health centre. María de Villota, fell with her brothers Emilio and Elizabeth by any escort, path of the door of the Fernandez-vega ophthalmological Institute. Texans, Slayer of halftime and white shirt on the outside of the pants. Hair shaved after operations in the head, scars to the view and a blue patch at the place of the lost eye. Unable to find a smile, not a word crossed the three brothers between the car and the entrance, in the video of their arrival recorded that LA NUEVA ESPAÑA and which will not be made public at the request of the family. Nor in the photographs. María de Villota appeared serious, something absent, but determined to step on."


Got to love that the newspaper is so nobly not showing the photos or video... that they themselves took.

#1166 Tsarwash

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:06

This happened back in the 80s, I'm not sure they'd fit the same glass today. However, it must either have been decent glass or he must have been very lucky because he was totally unhurt, not even a slight cut. Yet the entire place was littered with glass shards. He's a big bloke, 250lbs or so, and was running at full tilt. Suffice it to say, the glass door came off second best. However, even if it is safety glass that can't shatter, my understanding is that HSE regs require the stickers to be in place. Because, even if the glass doesn't break, he could still break his nose or something if he walked into it.

I'd assume that it was safety glass, or that he was remarkable lucky. I broke an eight foot high glass window in a supermarket once and little chunks of glass went absolutely everywhere, but those things don't really damage anybody. I'm very glad that people developed safety glass.


#1167 Peat

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:35

Sorry, didn't see this until now. This incident happened in South Africa.

:up: Thanks


#1168 midgrid

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 14:56

There was an incident at a Formula Renault 3.5 straight-line test at Millbrook earlier this week. The driver, who was not racing in the series, was knocked unconscious and hospitalised after his car ended up trapped under a barrier, but has since been released. I don't know if there were any further similarities with De Villota's accident, but it's quite a coincidence for another serious accident to occur in a single-seater straightline test soon afterwards.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 02:34

odd to get trapped under a barrier, unless it was a tyre one perhaps?

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 03:08

odd to get trapped under a barrier, unless it was a tyre one perhaps?


I think it was Heikki during his McLaren days that stuffed the car so deep in the tire barrier he was unable to get out and may have been unconscious from the hit so it can happen.

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How this can happen during a straight line test is another question but at least we can say getting stuck in tires is possible.

Also good to see papers showing some restraint in covering Maria's story. I'm also curious if she has had any words with Helmut regarding her situation - a bit like Sam Schmidt talking with Sir Frank after he had his own accident which seemed to do him a bit of good.

Edited by wacktifosi, 25 August 2012 - 03:19.


#1171 Brandz07

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:30

There was an incident at a Formula Renault 3.5 straight-line test at Millbrook earlier this week. The driver, who was not racing in the series, was knocked unconscious and hospitalised after his car ended up trapped under a barrier, but has since been released. I don't know if there were any further similarities with De Villota's accident, but it's quite a coincidence for another serious accident to occur in a single-seater straightline test soon afterwards.


It was Robin Frijns who's leading the championship.. he definitely races in the series, I presume they've edited the article since. :lol:

#1172 midgrid

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 13:55

It was Robin Frijns who's leading the championship.. he definitely races in the series, I presume they've edited the article since. :lol:


No, the article specifically states that Fortec was using a local (unnamed) driver who is familiar with the facility. Plus if Frijns had been knocked unconscious and hospitalised earlier this week, he wouldn't be competing this weekend.


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Posted 25 August 2012 - 15:01

No, the article specifically states that Fortec was using a local (unnamed) driver who is familiar with the facility. Plus if Frijns had been knocked unconscious and hospitalised earlier this week, he wouldn't be competing this weekend.


You're right! :up:

#1174 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 15:08

It's weird that it's an 'unnamed local driver with experience'

#1175 BRG

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 16:36

odd to get trapped under a barrier, unless it was a tyre one perhaps?

I've not been to Millbrook for ages, but as I recall, there is a wide straight used for straight line tests (braking and so on) which has armco barriers along some parts. Millbrook is a test facility for road vehicles and is not designed for single seater race cars. Presumably there was a problem with the car (puncture or suspension failure or something) that caused it to veer off. It would then very likely run its nose under the armco.

#1176 Ham's Cranes Ltd

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:24

Do you think Glock "full throttle" incident in Singapore could be related to Maria's accident?

I think FIA should at least investigate this, because an F1 car that can speed up by itself could be very dangerous.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:33

Do you not believe Marussia when they declared "having carefully examined all the data and supplementary information available at that time, the team were satisfied there were no such car-related issues" after the accident?

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:38

Do you think Glock "full throttle" incident in Singapore could be related to Maria's accident?

I think FIA should at least investigate this, because an F1 car that can speed up by itself could be very dangerous.


Does make you wonder, but that would show up very easily in the telemetry, unless the team were hiding the evidence.


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 19:13

Do you not believe Marussia when they declared "having carefully examined all the data and supplementary information available at that time, the team were satisfied there were no such car-related issues" after the accident?


Have we had a proper explanation for how the accident happened yet?

I wouldn't say I "don't believe" Marussia, but there's something very odd about this whole business.

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#1180 Mr.Wayne

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 19:15

Have we had a proper explanation for how the accident happened yet?

I wouldn't say I "don't believe" Marussia, but there's something very odd about this whole business.

I thought it was an error from her... She was approaching way too slow, revs to low, and the anti-stall limiter kicked in, revs went up, she wasn't expecting it and we know the rest. Not a car failure since the car work as expected.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 19:17

I know that was the theory but has that been officially confirmed anywhere?

#1182 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 19:31

Doesn't anti-stall throw it into neutral though? Like when guys don't get off the starting grid very well?

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 14:08

Dimi PAPADOPOULOS ‏@f1enigma
Confirmed: Maria de Villota will make her first public apperance on Thursday at the National Sports Agency in Madrid

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 16:29

Doesn't anti-stall throw it into neutral though? Like when guys don't get off the starting grid very well?

No, anti-stall just pulls the clutch in and I think if you're going too slow/have too few revs it would make the car lurch forwards too. When anti-stall kicks in at the start of a race it just makes them bog down and get a slow start.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 16:43

Clutch-in means the wheels aren't going to be turning under power; so the car shouldn't shoot forward.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 16:52

Dimi PAPADOPOULOS ‏@f1enigma
Confirmed: Maria de Villota will make her first public apperance on Thursday at the National Sports Agency in Madrid


That is excellent news - it would suggest that she is confident about her appearance

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:09

She made an interview with a popular magazine here in Spain, it is out today.

Apparently she still has big headaches, she hast lost completely sense of smell, part of the sense of taste, her right eye and she still has some operations ahead, one to rebuild her right eye, another to correct a skull displacement.

She remembers perfectly the accident and even the hit and she still thinks she can continue being a race driver, since there also some drivers in USA that lost one eye and kept the license.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:40

She looks amazing. How long ago was her crash?

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:40

It's very brave of her to make a public appearance given the grievous harm the accident did her. Given that the photo is angled towards her face I presume the right side took quite some cosmetic damaged. I'm amazed she has managed to make the most of it by going for a platinum hair colour - and it suits her.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:45

One can never discount picture manipulation these days. If she's really looking like that, I'd be very glad for her, TBH I would have expected much worse.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:51

She looks amazing. How long ago was her crash?


A little over 3 months.

Rebuilding her right eye probably means placing a glass eye in place, right? All in all, pretty good recovery I'd say if she feels she can still race.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:56

She looks very well!

I was expecting the damage to be far worse, so this is a nice surprise.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:58

Another picture:

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:01

Did they not ask her how the accident happened?

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:03

She looks very well!

I was expecting the damage to be far worse, so this is a nice surprise.


We haven't seen much of her right side which is where the damage is.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:19

She looks very well!

I was expecting the damage to be far worse, so this is a nice surprise.


That pic is probably very photoshoped, specially coming from that kind of magazine.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:31

A little over 3 months.

Rebuilding her right eye probably means placing a glass eye in place, right? All in all, pretty good recovery I'd say if she feels she can still race.

That bit surprised me... I would have thought that depth perception would be lost without her right eye.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:35

That bit surprised me... I would have thought that depth perception would be lost without her right eye.


It's far from ideal but can be compensated for, as other drivers have proven


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:44

Did they not ask her how the accident happened?


I don´t think this kind of magazine goes into that.

Pretty sure the interview is focused in a brave recovery, a very dramatic history, how to rebuild her life and all that stuff.

I´m starting to think also she could have some kind of confidential agreement with Marussia in order not to reveal details about the accident, we´ll find out soon.

She said she still has a big scar on her face right side, and sure there´s also some photoshop in the picture, these kind of magazines they all do.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:11

Although she was unconscious for a long time, de Villota says she can recall all the details of the crash and its aftermath.

She also says that as well as her eye injuries, she continues to suffer from headaches and has lost her sense of smell and taste.

"I remember everything - even the moment of the impact," di Villota told the Spanish Hola magazine, in her first interview since the crash.

"When I woke up everybody was around me and they didn't even know if I was going to speak, or how I was going to speak. I started speaking in English because I thought I was on an FIA check-up and that the nurse was a trainer.

"Then my dad said 'Please, Maria, speak Spanish, because your mother is missing half the things', and then I became aware of everything: of what had happened, where I was and why."

The 32-year-old says her injuries have made her realise the value of other things in life beyond racing.

"The accident has given me a new perspective about life, about the things that matter," she said. "It has taught me that to achieve what you want you have to educate yourself in sacrifice through effort.

"Now I have just one eye maybe I perceive more things than before. Before this, my life was a race against the clock, and now I see you have to stop and measure things in a different way."

De Villota admitted she was shocked the first time she saw her injuries, but she is sure that the worst is now behind her.

"In the beginning they were covering it [the eye] so I couldn't see it," she added. "The first day I looked at myself in the mirror I had 140 black stitches on my face, and they looked like they had been stitched with a boat rope, and I had lost my right eye. I was terrified.

"I have to undergo more surgery soon, but the worst is now behind."

She added: "I have headaches that they don't know how long will last - maybe years.

"I have to control my efforts a lot because of the cranial pressure. I have also lost smell, and taste, which is linked to smell. Now I like things with a very strong taste."

Maria de Villota has not yet decided if she wants to return to racing in the future.

The Spaniard lost her right eye in a Formula 1 testing accident in July, and is currently pondering whether or not to get back in the cockpit.

She is well aware, however, that one of the biggest factors is if motor racing's authorities will allow her to race because of her injury.

"I still don't know, it's about the licence," de Villota told the Spanish Hola magazine in her first interview since the accident. "There are drivers in the United States who have lost an eye and still have a licence.

"What's true is that you lose the sense of depth, because it's both eyes that give you the perspective.

"What I'm wondering now is if my future is being a racing driver or if there's something else I have to do with my life. I still don't know what I need to do."

De Villota says she now wants to have an active role in making sure safety is improved in the kind of tests she had her accident in.

"We all want to see if there are lessons to learn from what happened, so we can avoid accidents like that in the future," she said.

"My intention is to help with a view to the future, improve safety, especially in aero tests, because at the circuits everything is under control, but not in this kind of test."

She admitted she has been overwhelmed by the support she had received since the accident.

"I felt deeply loved, highly respected by my colleagues and everybody in the world of motorsport," de Villota said.

"My new life goes beyond my dreams, because my dream was Formula 1 and I achieved it. I'm a driver, I feel like a driver."