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#51 Baddoer

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:01

Did you see the 1997 race? Nothing this weekend can bring can top that...

Why not? I'm not excluding Toro Rosso win at all or something like that.

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#52 chrisblades85

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:20

Did you see the 1997 race? Nothing this weekend can bring can top that...


Yeah JV won. Nothing unusual about that in '97.;)

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 17:24

Yeah JV won. Nothing unusual about that in '97.;)


Putting aside Arrows\DH, Schumacher scrapping with Shinji Nakano or being a mobile chicane for most of the race was not unusual? Johnny Herbert's Sauber finishing 3rd a good 10-15s clear of MS? A Benetton (driven by Jean Alesi no less) finishing behind a Minardi? I could go on but you get the gist...

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 18:21

Putting aside Arrows\DH, Schumacher scrapping with Shinji Nakano or being a mobile chicane for most of the race was not unusual? Johnny Herbert's Sauber finishing 3rd a good 10-15s clear of MS? A Benetton (driven by Jean Alesi no less) finishing behind a Minardi? I could go on but you get the gist...


Whoosh


#55 Snic

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 19:58

Hate making predictions but can't see Mercedes doing well, absolutely no pace on the prime tyres in Germany and remember Schumacher only snatched pole away from Red Bull by less than a tenth in Monaco.


Onboard pole lap from 2003 with Alonso! Can't believe it's been 9 years since his first pole position (sorry couldn't find a stand alone video)

#56 morals

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 21:26

Hate making predictions but can't see Mercedes doing well, absolutely no pace on the prime tyres in Germany and remember Schumacher only snatched pole away from Red Bull by less than a tenth in Monaco.


Onboard pole lap from 2003 with Alonso! Can't believe it's been 9 years since his first pole position (sorry couldn't find a stand alone video)


9 years since his first pole, right, but that wasn't the first pole, this was:

:)

#57 scheivlak

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 21:57

Did you see the 1997 race? Nothing this weekend can bring can top that...

The 2006 podium wasn't completely predictable either - with a first time winner coming from #14 on the grid, a first and only time podium for the guy who finished #2 and a pretty unusual podium for Sauber as an addition.

It's still one of my favourite races from the last 10 years or so - though it must have been quite heartbreaking for say, some Fernando, Schumi or Kimi fans among us.

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#58 jeze

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 22:06

Slow corners,very little flat out section,mechanical grip rules..me thinks Mercedes may cause a surprise(based on Monaco)

High tire degradation,high downforce...Lotus could win

Ferrari will be there as always...no idea on Mclaren and RB.

In short nothing can be predicted..traditionally difficult to overtake here so maybe Quali would be all important


Sector 2 speaks against that. In 2010 Red Bull were dominant there. Almost one second in that sector alone that year. Mercedes don't have anywhere near the downforce required to run fast there. They will be quick in S1 and S3 but so will everyone else. It's going to be inside 0.15 seconds the top 10 cars in S1 I personally predict. McLaren, Vettel and Alonso will be the ones to watch in S2.

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#59 BetaVersion

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:29

I can find reasons to think Mclaren will win.
I can find reasons to think Ferrari will win.
I can find reasons to think Red Bull will win.
I can find reasons to think Lotus will win.
And I can even think of reasons that a Mercedes might win.


and I can think of more reasons for Sauber or Williams having more chance to win than Mercedes

Slow corners,very little flat out section,mechanical grip rules..me thinks Mercedes may cause a surprise(based on Monaco)

and there you go with a typical correlation which probably won't reveal to be true.

You know, Bahrain and Canada are also full of slow corners where mechanical grip rules, they are even better for Mercedes because they have plenty more straights to play in their hands.

Unfortunately, there wasn't a correlation of performances for Monaco and those 2 tracks, so no, Mercedes won't do anything special here, if I have to make a prediction.

Edited by BetaVersion, 25 July 2012 - 01:58.


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#60 Anderis

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:33

Monaco isn't necessarily a good indicator of Hungary performance.

For example in 2008 Williams was very good at Monaco and poor at Hungary. Toyota was poor at Monaco and very good at Hungary.

#61 Baddoer

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:28

Hot weather doesn't suit Mercedes at all. Monaco was one off because of pretty cold weather.

#62 Atreiu

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:36

Yeah. Look how much they slipped back from China to Bahrain in two weeks...

#63 Bleu

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:17

Just thought I'd bring in a contrast to the modern perspective on the track by bringing up a quote from Ken Tyrrell from when the track was new in 1986:

"This brand-new circuit got a wonderful reception from the public. The crowd are a long way from the action but they seemed to like it. At least they went in their numbers. It is a very slow circuit - the slowest of the non-street races by a long way - but it is an excellent modern facility and I have found it a most interesting track. Drivers complained that it was too slow but I think a circuit like this serves a purpose. The beauty of grand-prix (sic) racing is the variation in the type of circuits, and I think there's a place for a circuit like Hungary's in the calendar." - from Grand Prix by Alan Henry & Alan Brinton, 1987.

Interesting how the more things change, the more things stay the same.


Sadly I think the F1 has lost some of that what Uncle Ken was saying.

#64 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:19

Sector 2 speaks against that. In 2010 Red Bull were dominant there. Almost one second in that sector alone that year. Mercedes don't have anywhere near the downforce required to run fast there. They will be quick in S1 and S3 but so will everyone else. It's going to be inside 0.15 seconds the top 10 cars in S1 I personally predict. McLaren, Vettel and Alonso will be the ones to watch in S2.


let me add the Sauber's and MALboy


#65 Skinnyguy

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 18:39

Latest weather forecasts? They should be pretty reliable already.

#66 beefree88

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 19:01

Latest weather forecasts? They should be pretty reliable already.


Well, if somebody claims to have a reliable forcast, don't believe it. The most probable is that the high temperature (30-35 Celsius) comes back for the weekend. There might be thunderstorms too.

#67 Jovanotti

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:56

Latest weather forecasts? They should be pretty reliable already.

After checking a few websites, I think the general consensus atm is dry Saturday and Sunday, with increased chances of thunderstorms on Sunday but only in the evening.

#68 korzeniow

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:26

After checking a few websites, I think the general consensus atm is dry Saturday and Sunday, with increased chances of thunderstorms on Sunday but only in the evening.


Great! :up:

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:43

hi
this year or better next year i want to go to hungaroring
which is the cost for friday?
and is possible like monza go to all granstands?
and which is the best grandstands for better photos?
i already stay in budapest but the circuit is so far from the centre of the city, exist a bus or other for the travel to the circuit?

thanks and sorry for the questions and for my english

#70 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:53

Not sure what websites you've been checking, but with everything I've read from people who actually write forecasts/give forecast updates, as well as a few websites, the chances of thundery downpours on Sunday most definitely isn't 'only in the evening'. Sunday could see thundery downpours at any time from the early hours. However, with thundery downpours, they're not easy to predict accurately. It's absolutely possible that we could see rain before/during the race itself.

#71 Jovanotti

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:59

Not sure what websites you've been checking, but with everything I've read from people who actually write forecasts/give forecast updates, as well as a few websites, the chances of thundery downpours on Sunday most definitely isn't 'only in the evening'. Sunday could see thundery downpours at any time from the early hours. However, with thundery downpours, they're not easy to predict accurately. It's absolutely possible that we could see rain before/during the race itself.

Well I've been checkin a few sites that predicted rain in the evening. After posting, I checked a few more and some of them actually say rain is possible during the day, so I guess it's about 50/50 for rain on raceday.


#72 eREr

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:59

hi
this year or better next year i want to go to hungaroring
which is the cost for friday?
and is possible like monza go to all granstands?
and which is the best grandstands for better photos?
i already stay in budapest but the circuit is so far from the centre of the city, exist a bus or other for the travel to the circuit?

thanks and sorry for the questions and for my english

For some unknown reasons the only Friday ticket prizes are not available on internet. You should call +36 1 266-2040 (www.ostermann.hu) and they will answer to all of your questions related to GP tickets.

For more information: http://www.gptickets...ix/tickets.html

#73 sterla

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:16

For some unknown reasons the only Friday ticket prizes are not available on internet. You should call +36 1 266-2040 (www.ostermann.hu) and they will answer to all of your questions related to GP tickets.

For more information: http://www.gptickets...ix/tickets.html


i think i will buy the ticket in the circuit
i live not far to monza and when i go in the friday of the grand prix i buy the tickets at the circuit

#74 eREr

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:21

i think i will buy the ticket in the circuit
i live not far to monza and when i go in the friday of the grand prix i buy the tickets at the circuit

This will work also here.

How to get there? http://hungaroring.h...n&id=0&sub_id=3


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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:32

Latest weather forecasts? They should be pretty reliable already.

On Saturday, at the beginning there may be thunderstorms on the northeast, then more storms on the northwest. A few hours of sunshine is expected everywhere. Stays the sultry weather with peak values of around 30 °C.

On Sunday there can be showers and thunderstorms across the country, at some places the temperature can reach 33-34 °C, then a cold front is expected to arrive on Monday, which can bring a more powerful cooling down by 5-10 °C for Tuesday.
(Source: idokep.hu, Hungarian weather forcast, translated by me)

#76 SteF1an

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:45

1. Räikkönen
2. Vettel
3. Schumacher

Alonso DNF

#77 Snic

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:37

"It's a circuit which holds a special memory for me because it was at the Hungaroring where I made my F1 grand prix debut in 2002. That was a real baptism of fire, turning up mid-season and driving a Minardi car that was a real handful. But looking back, I'm also aware that I probably didn't give the circuit the respect that I give it now and didn't fully appreciate that a driver really needs to be on the top of their game to do well here. That's probably why we quite often see such a big disparity between team-mates at the Hungaroring despite the lap itself being relatively short.

I'm a big fan. It's one of those circuits that you can get stuck in to and have a lot of fun in the car - which makes it very rewarding when you get it right. It almost feels in the car like you're driving a big go-kart track because of the way you have to flick the car around, attack the kerbs and feel the rear moving around. It's a very technical circuit, but also one that rewards precision and bravery"
Ant Davidson

http://www1.skysport...r-s-Eye-Hungary

Edited by Snic, 26 July 2012 - 12:38.


#78 Markn93

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:44

Anyone know the press-conference line-up? A reminder that it's in 15 minutes for those who didn't know.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 13:19

hi
this year or better next year i want to go to hungaroring
which is the cost for friday?
and is possible like monza go to all granstands?
and which is the best grandstands for better photos?
i already stay in budapest but the circuit is so far from the centre of the city, exist a bus or other for the travel to the circuit?

thanks and sorry for the questions and for my english


Hungaroring is certainly the best value for money you'll get anywhere. GA views are just awesome, but to pick one of those better spots you gotta be at the gates before 07:00 AM and as soon they are open, run like hell to your chosen spots. Last year, we decide on Friday evening that we are going to the race. We spent about 130 € for fuel (Zagreb - Budapest) and about 30€ for various tolls. As soon as we park our car in one of the parking lots around the track, there was this guy selling the tickets and we bought 3 from him for 50€ each (face value was 100€!). We bring the food and beers from home, but that lasted only till 05:00 PM Saturday. Beers around the track were from 2.5 to 4 €, so we choose to sit in the car and went to the nearest village, where we found the beers for 1€ and bought the couple of packs. Additional food as well. Parking was free, but it is usually closed during the night. With old-fashioned bribery (2 beers), the guard let us in and we slept in the car just beside expensive camping spots...


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#80 Vickyy

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 15:20

Hungaroring is certainly the best value for money you'll get anywhere. GA views are just awesome, but to pick one of those better spots you gotta be at the gates before 07:00 AM and as soon they are open, run like hell to your chosen spots. Last year, we decide on Friday evening that we are going to the race. We spent about 130 € for fuel (Zagreb - Budapest) and about 30€ for various tolls. As soon as we park our car in one of the parking lots around the track, there was this guy selling the tickets and we bought 3 from him for 50€ each (face value was 100€!). We bring the food and beers from home, but that lasted only till 05:00 PM Saturday. Beers around the track were from 2.5 to 4 €, so we choose to sit in the car and went to the nearest village, where we found the beers for 1€ and bought the couple of packs. Additional food as well. Parking was free, but it is usually closed during the night. With old-fashioned bribery (2 beers), the guard let us in and we slept in the car just beside expensive camping spots...


Superb, absolutely superb :up:


#81 Cavani

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 16:28

last year race was superb , it should be one heck of a race

#82 jrg19

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 17:57

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New hair for Vettel, looks fast.

#83 PayasYouRace

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 18:25

Another short cut for Vettel then.

#84 korzeniow

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 18:41

Another short cut for Vettel then.


LOL :lol: :up:

#85 g1n

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 18:46

Great! :up:


um not really, Hungary GP is also know as a borefest.

edit: just realised Vettel actually dyes his her blond, hah never noticed that.

Edited by g1n, 26 July 2012 - 18:48.


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Posted 26 July 2012 - 19:37

Does anyone know if there is a video of the Thursday press conference up anywhere?

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 19:42

Latest weather is dry tomorrow with a low chance of light showers in the afternoon but likely after FP2 has done. Saturday is the same with a low risk of light rain in the afternoon. Sunday looks better than it did, as the rain is forecast to slide north, meaning Budapest misses the heaviest rain, but is still likely to get some rain, albeit not heavy and persistent. Obviously that can change, but that's how it stands at the moment.

#88 MonacoMaster

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 20:03

Does anyone know if there is a video of the Thursday press conference up anywhere?



Edited by MonacoMaster, 26 July 2012 - 20:04.


#89 sterla

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 20:12

Hungaroring is certainly the best value for money you'll get anywhere. GA views are just awesome, but to pick one of those better spots you gotta be at the gates before 07:00 AM and as soon they are open, run like hell to your chosen spots. Last year, we decide on Friday evening that we are going to the race. We spent about 130 € for fuel (Zagreb - Budapest) and about 30€ for various tolls. As soon as we park our car in one of the parking lots around the track, there was this guy selling the tickets and we bought 3 from him for 50€ each (face value was 100€!). We bring the food and beers from home, but that lasted only till 05:00 PM Saturday. Beers around the track were from 2.5 to 4 €, so we choose to sit in the car and went to the nearest village, where we found the beers for 1€ and bought the couple of packs. Additional food as well. Parking was free, but it is usually closed during the night. With old-fashioned bribery (2 beers), the guard let us in and we slept in the car just beside expensive camping spots...


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really thanks
50€/100€ officially for friday or saturday?
in monza 2 years ago officially the prizes fpr friday was 35€, i see now and this year is 45€....

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 21:48

really thanks
50€/100€ officially for friday or saturday?
in monza 2 years ago officially the prizes fpr friday was 35€, i see now and this year is 45€....


100€ was a price for general admission weekend ticket (Fri-Sun) last year. It's 90€ this year. We paid 50€ last year, but it was obviously a black market one.



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Posted 26 July 2012 - 21:52

Those views are great but I prefer to get trackside and have my face blown off/hearing damaged, I'd hate to be that far away.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 22:02

Any of the top 5 teams who has their car hooked up this weekend are in with a big shout.Gone are the days of one team dominance..and rightly so. :up:

As for the Hungaroring being a bore-fest,that were during the days before internet chat forums! :p

Edited by Fatgadget, 26 July 2012 - 22:09.


#93 fisssssi

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 22:21


Thanks, shame that 90% of the questions were to Fernando! Felt a bit sorry for the guys at the back.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 02:37

Another short cut for Vettel then.


:lol: genius


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 02:47

Always loved this track. It is a beautiful place. Always an interesting result.
If I could, I would love to be there.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:01

Why does Narain act like a diva when he answers...

#97 Seanspeed

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:16

Those views are great but I prefer to get trackside and have my face blown off/hearing damaged, I'd hate to be that far away.

For general admission, those are some fantastic views.

Always loved this track. It is a beautiful place. Always an interesting result.
If I could, I would love to be there.

:wave:

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:05

Always loved this track. It is a beautiful place. Always an interesting result.
If I could, I would love to be there.



I was there on every race since 2005.
The weather is very sunny bright at the moment. no clud at all, just fantastic blue sky.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:54

For general admission, those are some fantastic views.


:wave:


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Hey Sean, hope you're waving from the track! :up: