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[PCC]

Lewis Hamilton scored McLaren's 150th Grand Prix pole today, and I hadn't realized until Martin Whitmarsh pointed it out that the first was scored by Peter Revson, at Mosport, in 1972.

Here are a couple of truly bad photos of that event, shot by an eleven-year-old with a Kodak Instamatic (Back in the days when an eleven-year-old with an Instamatic could get close to the action without being arrested, evicted and prosecuted).

Any other recollections of memorable poles from those 150?

[LittleChris]

Is that Andrea De Adamich that Revvie's talking to in the first picture ? Looks like JP Beltoise in the 2nd ?

[arttidesco]

Lewis Hamilton scored McLaren's 150th Grand Prix pole today, and I hadn't realized until Martin Whitmarsh pointed it out that the first was scored by Peter Revson, at Mosport, in 1972.

Any other recollections of memorable poles from those 150?

Was Denny's pole in the M23 for the 1973 South African GP really only McLaren's second Pole ?

[alansart]

Was Denny's pole in the M23 for the 1973 South African GP really only McLaren's second Pole ?

I think so. And was the 3rd by James Hunt in 1976!!!

Edited by alansart, 28 July 2012 - 21:20.

[PCC]

Is that Andrea De Adamich that Revvie's talking to in the first picture ? Looks like JP Beltoise in the 2nd ?

1) As far as I recall yes, and 2) I don't think so.

[PCC]

I think so. And was the 3rd by James Hunt in 1976!!!

Really? Emmo never got a pole for them?

[Tim Murray]

Fittipaldi had two poles (Brazil and Canada) in 1974.

[jj2728]

Looks like JP Beltoise in the 2nd ?

I think it's Ron Jeremy.......

[Eaglenindy]

I believe it is Maurice Phillippe in picture #2

[LittleChris]

I think it's Ron Jeremy.......

Oh dear ( & it is definitely not Maurice Phillipe in the 2nd picture - unless I'm proved wrong of course !!)

Edited by LittleChris, 29 July 2012 - 02:49.

[Milan Fistonic]

Was Denny's pole in the M23 for the 1973 South African GP really only McLaren's second Pole ?

And it was Denny's only Pole from 112 GPs.

[scheivlak]

I found a nice press release about McLaren team members first pole memories here: http://www.f1katewalker.com/

The first F1 pole seems to have been the 1968 Race of Champions....

[Nigel Beresford]

Oh dear ( & it is definitely not Maurice Phillipe in the 2nd picture - unless I'm proved wrong of course !!)

Well, I have to say he bears a strong (albeit hirsute) resemblance to him, and the gesture is pure Maurice.

Dave Luff on the right.

Thanks

Nigel

Edited by Nigel Beresford, 29 July 2012 - 11:32.

[alansart]

Fittipaldi had two poles (Brazil and Canada) in 1974.

Thanks for the correction Tim

I don't know why I go to this place as it's often wrong!! http://f1-facts.com/.../pole-positions

[Tim Murray]

I wouldn't go anywhere near that site, Alan, except for a good laugh. We had great fun demolishing its nonsense a couple of years back in the Blood Pressure thread (sadly no longer available). I think the best example of its idiocy is its listing of a team called 'Arthur Owen' as the winner of three championships in the '60s:

http://f1-facts.com/...any/Arthur_Owen

[2F-001]

Slightly outside of the parameters of the original question, but didn't McLaren take pole (as well as winning) both the RoC and International Trophy in '68?

[PCC]

Slightly outside of the parameters of the original question, but didn't McLaren take pole (as well as winning) both the RoC and International Trophy in '68?

RoC: McLaren on pole at 1:30.0, ahead of Spence and JYS. Bruce P1 in race. International Trophy: Hulme on pole at 1:24.3, ahead of Spence and McLaren. Hulme also P1 in race.

Which is a long-winded way of saying yes.

Martin Whitmarsh yesterday:

"For all you train-spotters out there, our first was scored by Peter Revson, at Mosport Park, in Canada, on September 23rd 1972, in a McLaren M19C, with a lap-time of 1min 13.6sec. Oh, and, by the way, I haven't forgotten the 1968 Race of Champions at Brands Hatch, where we also got the pole, but that was a non-championship Formula 1 race!"

[PCC]

Well, I have to say he bears a strong (albeit hirsute) resemblance to him, and the gesture is pure Maurice.

I hadn't realized I had a snap of Maurice Philippe - I'm chuffed, thanks!

[LittleChris]

Oh dear ( & it is definitely not Maurice Phillipe in the 2nd picture - unless I'm proved wrong of course !!)

And inevitably I'm proved wrong although to be fair I was referring to the chap in the dark jacket

[D-Type]

I was going to suggest that the chap in the white jacket might be Regazzoni - but he didn't have a 'tache in 1972

[PCC]

At the risk of highjacking my own thread, here are a few more from the same race:











Unremarkable pics, to say the least, but a few points of interest - like the wonderful "garages" visible behind Cevert, and the sheer benevolence of Denny, and the unthinkably casual (by today's standards) atmosphere.

[dbltop]

In the second photo. is that Wisell between Reggazoni and Pescarolo?

Edited by dbltop, 30 July 2012 - 04:38.

[roger.daltrey]

RoC: McLaren on pole at 1:30.0, ahead of Spence and JYS. Bruce P1 in race. International Trophy: Hulme on pole at 1:24.3, ahead of Spence and McLaren. Hulme also P1 in race.

Which is a long-winded way of saying yes.

Martin Whitmarsh yesterday:

"For all you train-spotters out there, our first was scored by Peter Revson, at Mosport Park, in Canada, on September 23rd 1972, in a McLaren M19C, with a lap-time of 1min 13.6sec. Oh, and, by the way, I haven't forgotten the 1968 Race of Champions at Brands Hatch, where we also got the pole, but that was a non-championship Formula 1 race!"

Fantastic comment by Martin Whitmarsh - an anoraks anorak by the looks of things !!

[Arjan de Roos]

Fantastic pics PCC! Yes Instamatic quality, but among the heroes, so close and even personal!

[jj2728]

In the second photo. is that Wisell between Reggazoni and Pescarolo?

I believe so.

[Nanni Dietrich]

Fantastic pics PCC! Yes Instamatic quality, but among the heroes, so close and even personal!

Agree.

Who is the blond hair chap in yellow overall, looking to Denny? Bill Brack?

[Nigel Beresford]

Agree.

Who is the blond hair chap in yellow overall, looking to Denny? Bill Brack?

Skip Barber isn't it?

[Arjan de Roos]

Skip Barber isn't it?

Yes

[PCC]

Thank you all for your comments and identifications!

The one I can't figure out is in the STP jacket visible behind Denny. You just catch one of his eyes behind Jackie. Who is that guy...?

[alansart]

Thank you all for your comments and identifications!

The one I can't figure out is in the STP jacket visible behind Denny. You just catch one of his eyes behind Jackie. Who is that guy...?

Mike Beuttler?