Do you really enjoy races like the Hungarian GP ?
#1
Posted 30 July 2012 - 17:46
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#2
Posted 30 July 2012 - 17:54
The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.
Edited by ZooL, 30 July 2012 - 17:58.
#3
Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:35
Of course I don't rate high any kind of predictability and I want to see more wheel-to-wheel battle. One of the very worst races so far this year at Hungary.
#4
Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:43
#5
Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:45
#6
Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:45
I agree, next year's activation point should be before the last corner.They just got the length of the DRS zone wrong for this track, it was too short. Alot of the other tracks are the same but FIA have got DRS zone length better.
The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.
#7
Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:49
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:51
#9
Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:53
The track will never produce the race of the year, apart from turns one and two it's just too tight and twisty for F1 racing.
#10
Posted 30 July 2012 - 20:38
I've been watching races there for several decades and in that time I think I've seen 2 good races.
quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.
#11
Posted 30 July 2012 - 20:54
Races like this are beeded to put things into perspective and Lewis winning makes it even better!
The poll and options are near ridiculous, though.
Edited by Atreiu, 30 July 2012 - 20:55.
#12
Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:00
It was a horrible borefest from the first to the last lap.
I've been watching races there for several decades and in that time I think I've seen 2 good races.
quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.
Several decades?
#13
Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:05
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:07
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:13
#16
Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:24
Edited by Nigol, 30 July 2012 - 21:24.
#17
Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:36
Casual fans sure, they just want to see wheel to wheel action.
But races like this I'm just glued to live timing, reminded me of korea with lewis having to keep a gap to alonso for the whole race. Perhaps if it wasn't lewis at the front I wouldn't have been as interested but then there was plenty else going on in terms of strategy and shifting pace/gaps for both supporter's of other drivers and neutrals.
Watching the highlights back, sure, boring as hell, these sorts of races are all about not knowing what's going to happen.
If I was only interested in wheel to wheel frankly F1 wouldn't be the sport I would want to follow.
#18
Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:38
There's been very few good races at Hungary.
They got rid of Magny Cours but kept that dust bowl.
I don't understand that.
#19
Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:52
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quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.
I hope you didn't mean to look down on Valencia with such comment because this year it's one of the best GP of the season there. In fact, the previous two seasons had decent races there too even if for some reason a lot of people forgot about it (hope with the one we had this year at Valencia it finally get stucks in their mind that racing there has been nice more oftenly than not already )..
About Hungarian GP, I didn't enjoy the race at all. It was just OK because it's better to have F1 than to not have it and I knew we would have a whole month without F1 afterwards, but the track is boring and I don't understand why people doesn't get such attitude they had against the Valencia track whene in the first pages of the preview thread you got countless of people complaining about the track (fespite that the previous 2 years it's been decent there and at the one from this year quite good).
Maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive but I have the feeling some tracks get unfair criticism and some other tracks for some reason unfair praise or not as much critics they should get.
Edited by Creepy, 30 July 2012 - 22:00.
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#20
Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:12
It was a horrible borefest from the first to the last lap.
I've been watching races there for several decades and in that time I think I've seen 2 good races.
quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.
I would count the 1989, 1990, 1997, 1998, 2006 and 2011 Hungarian races as classics, or at least very good myself, with several other good events as well. However, I suppose Valencia this year was arguably a match for any of these.
#21
Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:14
It was a good race. Below average for this season, but this season is above average.
Word!
#22
Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:15
They just got the length of the DRS zone wrong for this track, it was too short. Alot of the other tracks are the same but FIA have got DRS zone length better.
The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.
What? The DRS zone was as lons as it was possible: http://www.formula1....il/hungary_874/ at the exit from last corner before main straight line
#23
Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:17
So no it wasn't a great Hungarian GP but the dry ones rarely are. But it's better than they usually are.
#24
Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:33
#25
Posted 31 July 2012 - 00:41
One week you lose 3-0 to Stevenage in the league, the following week you knock Arsenal out the cup. It's just the way sport goes. Sometimes you have a boring or disappointing race, but the next one be fanastic or magical.
F1, through a multitude of factors just over 10 years ago had got to a point where it was predictable that it was boring and even F1 fans were turning off. That's more worrying than a poor race amongst a lot of decent ones.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 00:54
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:56
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:02
#29
Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:03
The driver I was rooting for won, so, yes.
This!!!
#30
Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:30
I think you forgot one main problem: The DRS zone can't be any longer because there's no straight longer than the pits straight.They just got the length of the DRS zone wrong for this track, it was too short. Alot of the other tracks are the same but FIA have got DRS zone length better.
The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.
Unless of course, they start using DRS over the entire lap in Hungaroring. That might help.
#31
Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:51
I enjoyed this race; thought it was fantastic, but I've noticed other races which have had the high fives I've considered
#32
Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:04
#33
Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:37
Edited by Sakae, 31 July 2012 - 05:38.
#34
Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:43
perhaps the title of this thread should be
do you think the Hungarian GP was as good as ....
But that would not give you what you want would it.
I answered yes to the poll not because of the options offered which anyone in their right mind would have to agree was not as good as the 3 named races but because i choose to answer your thread title not your (unrelated to thread title) poll question.
I loved the way we knew just one mistake would have cost the leader his position, i loved watching both the race unfold and the timing screens seeing how the gap was changing and KR's great charge, with lewis's great defending, heck not knowing if lewis was going to have to change to a 3 stopper and once it was clear he was not going to would his tyers last.
Kept me glued to the very last turn of the last lap!
I would much rather see a great scrap where two cars which were not too different in pace (after all we are not talking about one car being 2 seconds a lap quicker and being unable to pass but one being 0.5 seconds quicker but the other driver able to use what he has to mitigate against the faster car) fight for a change of place (even if there is no pass i love seeing driver skill) rather than 500 passes all done on one straight with the driver in front unable to do anything other than wave to the other driver as he cruises past under DRS.
However i also think you will find may Lotus and RG, KR fans will also say they enjoyed the race even if were disapointed their drivers failed to make it past a a driver who was very quick too and made no mistakes after the first corner.
#35
Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:55
+1It was a good race. Below average for this season, but this season is above average.
Despite the Hungaroring's image as a producer of snorefests, most races are quite OK. Barcelona's races are often much more tedious. Although this season is, indeed, out of the ordinary.
Edited by lustigson, 31 July 2012 - 08:56.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:39
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:03
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:06
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:09
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#42
Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:14
This was was good not because there was a ton of overtaking but because if Hamilton or mclaren made a mistake Kim/ gro would have won therefore if you supported mclaren or lotus this was one very tense race and provided a stress factor because we just didn't know who was going to win!!
Imo anyway
Edited by Wifey, 31 July 2012 - 10:16.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:18
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:22
#45
Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:24
With live timing is everything 100% more awesome.
It's races like these that make live timing.
#46
Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:28
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:10
#48
Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:25
We have been spoiled a bit this year with overtakes. So in the defense of the race it made is same extra boring.
#49
Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:30
Crap race imo, it seems amazing but Valencia is going to be better than quite a few races this year.
#50
Posted 31 July 2012 - 13:08
I was watching the live timing too, keeping an eye on who was doing what. Seeing Kimi suddenly light the board up with Purple was brilliant.
With Live Timing, no race is boring. If you sit there, vacantly waiting to be spoonfed entertainment, then you deserve to feel bored.....