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Poll: would u prefer this type of races over Valencia,Canada,barcelona 2012 ? (187 member(s) have cast votes)

would u prefer this type of races over Valencia,Canada,barcelona 2012 ?

  1. Yes (45 votes [24.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.06%

  2. No (89 votes [47.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.59%

  3. dont mind , just wanna see f1 cars race (53 votes [28.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.34%

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#1 Cavani

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 17:46

just want to know how many prefers this dull type of races over the exciting ones

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#2 ZooL

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 17:54

They just got the length of the DRS zone wrong for this track, it was too short. Alot of the other tracks are the same but FIA have got DRS zone length better.

The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.

Edited by ZooL, 30 July 2012 - 17:58.


#3 Anderis

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:35

Lol, I have mistaken when I was adding my vote and I don't know how to change it now. :p

Of course I don't rate high any kind of predictability and I want to see more wheel-to-wheel battle. One of the very worst races so far this year at Hungary.

#4 Absulute

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:43

The driver I was rooting for won, so, yes.

#5 Jejking

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:45

As Zool says, DRS was out of balance, the rest was pretty much okay. In Valencia and Barcelona the DRS zone was pretty much balanced. But passing was a myth yesterday.

#6 sawyer_si

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:45

They just got the length of the DRS zone wrong for this track, it was too short. Alot of the other tracks are the same but FIA have got DRS zone length better.

The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.

I agree, next year's activation point should be before the last corner.

#7 Disgrace

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:49

It was a good race. Below average for this season, but this season is above average.

#8 OoxLox

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:51

I love this track for its flow and for the back end from T4 round to T11, which is awesome to drive in a decent F1 sim/game. Compared to a lot of races this year, though (even Valencia :well: ) it was fairly processional, so I answered "just want to see F1 cars" :p


#9 johnmhinds

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 18:53

Has a Hungarian race really ever been that exciting?

The track will never produce the race of the year, apart from turns one and two it's just too tight and twisty for F1 racing.

#10 Longtimefan

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 20:38

It was a horrible borefest from the first to the last lap.

I've been watching races there for several decades and in that time I think I've seen 2 good races.

quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.


#11 Atreiu

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 20:54

Yes because Hamilton won despite never being miles ahead the road. And it was nice to see defensive and intelligent driving being more valuable than DRS and fresher tyres.

Races like this are beeded to put things into perspective and Lewis winning makes it even better!

The poll and options are near ridiculous, though.

Edited by Atreiu, 30 July 2012 - 20:55.


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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:00

It was a horrible borefest from the first to the last lap.

I've been watching races there for several decades and in that time I think I've seen 2 good races.

quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.


Several decades?

#13 Atreiu

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:05

Like some dozen or more, hehehe.

#14 Tauhid

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:07

I enjoyed the whole weekend rather than just the actual race. Qualifying was a lot more entertaining for me at least. Race wise, I think Lewis' and Kimi's drive was brilliant. I loved how the Lotuses fought tooth and nail against Lewis so that was the most entertaining part of the race for me.

#15 FSLIV

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:13

I enjoyed the race because Lewis won but I think the Hungaro track is the worst track on the calender as far as spectator entertainment. I am surprised they would keep this track but let Turkey go.

#16 Nigol

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:24

Title and poll don't match.

Edited by Nigol, 30 July 2012 - 21:24.


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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:36

I don't know if it's because my favourite driver was involved but I find it difficult to understand fans of the sport not enjoying races like last weekend's.

Casual fans sure, they just want to see wheel to wheel action.

But races like this I'm just glued to live timing, reminded me of korea with lewis having to keep a gap to alonso for the whole race. Perhaps if it wasn't lewis at the front I wouldn't have been as interested but then there was plenty else going on in terms of strategy and shifting pace/gaps for both supporter's of other drivers and neutrals.

Watching the highlights back, sure, boring as hell, these sorts of races are all about not knowing what's going to happen.

If I was only interested in wheel to wheel frankly F1 wouldn't be the sport I would want to follow.

#18 Currahee

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:38


There's been very few good races at Hungary.

They got rid of Magny Cours but kept that dust bowl.

I don't understand that.

#19 Creepy

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 21:52

[...]
quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.


I hope you didn't mean to look down on Valencia with such comment because this year it's one of the best GP of the season there. In fact, the previous two seasons had decent races there too even if for some reason a lot of people forgot about it (hope with the one we had this year at Valencia it finally get stucks in their mind that racing there has been nice more oftenly than not already :( )..

About Hungarian GP, I didn't enjoy the race at all. It was just OK because it's better to have F1 than to not have it and I knew we would have a whole month without F1 afterwards, but the track is boring and I don't understand why people doesn't get such attitude they had against the Valencia track whene in the first pages of the preview thread you got countless of people complaining about the track (fespite that the previous 2 years it's been decent there and at the one from this year quite good).

Maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive but I have the feeling some tracks get unfair criticism and some other tracks for some reason unfair praise or not as much critics they should get.

Edited by Creepy, 30 July 2012 - 22:00.


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#20 midgrid

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:12

It was a horrible borefest from the first to the last lap.

I've been watching races there for several decades and in that time I think I've seen 2 good races.

quite frankly I'd rather watch a race at Valencia.


I would count the 1989, 1990, 1997, 1998, 2006 and 2011 Hungarian races as classics, or at least very good myself, with several other good events as well. However, I suppose Valencia this year was arguably a match for any of these.


#21 Menace

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:14

It was a good race. Below average for this season, but this season is above average.


Word! :up:

#22 korzeniow

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:15

They just got the length of the DRS zone wrong for this track, it was too short. Alot of the other tracks are the same but FIA have got DRS zone length better.

The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.


What? The DRS zone was as lons as it was possible: http://www.formula1....il/hungary_874/ at the exit from last corner before main straight line

#23 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:17

I'll tell you one thing though. The way F1 works now, you sometimes pay more attention approaching the final stops. Whereas a few years ago sometimes it was game over after the first round...

So no it wasn't a great Hungarian GP but the dry ones rarely are. But it's better than they usually are.

#24 Wander

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:33

Of course I don't prefer this to races like Barcelona or Valencia this year. Anyone who does is weird.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 00:41

Of course not, but sometimes it happens.

One week you lose 3-0 to Stevenage in the league, the following week you knock Arsenal out the cup. It's just the way sport goes. Sometimes you have a boring or disappointing race, but the next one be fanastic or magical.

F1, through a multitude of factors just over 10 years ago had got to a point where it was predictable that it was boring and even F1 fans were turning off. That's more worrying than a poor race amongst a lot of decent ones.

#26 Richard T

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 00:54

The Hungaroring is probably the best track in the world for wheel to wheel racing.......... In a touring car

#27 Sardukar

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:56

I find it halarious that people think this race had any racing in it. It was back to the good old days of having no aero at all when following another car. Hamilton's defensive driving consisted of him just putting down average lap times whilst a faster lotus behind him couldn't do squat. The only way to pass was if the guy infront made a mistake and in 2012 F1 drivers dont make mistakes unless they are pushing extremely hard.

#28 ViMaMo

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:02

Will you be taking a third survey? :wave:

#29 SR388

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:03

The driver I was rooting for won, so, yes.




This!!!

#30 Kingshark

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:30

They just got the length of the DRS zone wrong for this track, it was too short. Alot of the other tracks are the same but FIA have got DRS zone length better.

The strategy aspect of the race was 10 out of 10.

I think you forgot one main problem: The DRS zone can't be any longer because there's no straight longer than the pits straight.

Unless of course, they start using DRS over the entire lap in Hungaroring. That might help.

#31 packapoo

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:51

Boring to one is not boring to another.
I enjoyed this race; thought it was fantastic, but I've noticed other races which have had the high fives I've considered :down:

#32 seahawk

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:04

It was a classic race. The fastest driver and car combination won. Considering the advantage in qualifying any other result would have been a joke.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:37

I am failing to see what was "classic" about last race, thus I voted down the weekend; probably for different reason than some others. For me a good race is relatively a race without non-related distractions with inclusion of an n-factor which was missing, as Kimi can attest. My two heroes had really lousy weekend which consequently is probably affecting my judgment with this poll, Race Control makes my skin crawl, and the track itself is now in a group of several which really should give us pause what's happening to racing? Monaco, Valencia, Singapore, Hungary ...what’s next, as opposed to Spa, Suzuka, Nürburgring, really racing circuits? I think we see handy work and results when "financial experts" take over, and money is more important than fans.

Edited by Sakae, 31 July 2012 - 05:38.


#34 itsademo

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:43

Disclaimer i support LH and mac so my views could be biased by the fact of the race results.
perhaps the title of this thread should be
do you think the Hungarian GP was as good as ....
But that would not give you what you want would it.
I answered yes to the poll not because of the options offered which anyone in their right mind would have to agree was not as good as the 3 named races but because i choose to answer your thread title not your (unrelated to thread title) poll question.

I loved the way we knew just one mistake would have cost the leader his position, i loved watching both the race unfold and the timing screens seeing how the gap was changing and KR's great charge, with lewis's great defending, heck not knowing if lewis was going to have to change to a 3 stopper and once it was clear he was not going to would his tyers last.
Kept me glued to the very last turn of the last lap!
I would much rather see a great scrap where two cars which were not too different in pace (after all we are not talking about one car being 2 seconds a lap quicker and being unable to pass but one being 0.5 seconds quicker but the other driver able to use what he has to mitigate against the faster car) fight for a change of place (even if there is no pass i love seeing driver skill) rather than 500 passes all done on one straight with the driver in front unable to do anything other than wave to the other driver as he cruises past under DRS.

However i also think you will find may Lotus and RG, KR fans will also say they enjoyed the race even if were disapointed their drivers failed to make it past a a driver who was very quick too and made no mistakes after the first corner.

#35 lustigson

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:55

It was a good race. Below average for this season, but this season is above average.

+1

Despite the Hungaroring's image as a producer of snorefests, most races are quite OK. Barcelona's races are often much more tedious. Although this season is, indeed, out of the ordinary.

Edited by lustigson, 31 July 2012 - 08:56.


#36 GSiebert

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:39

The teams are understanding the Pirellis better (= less surprise drop of performance) and with the artificial DRS shit not working here, you end up with a race like many others in the 2000's.

#37 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:53

It was a pretty tense race I thought. It looked like 3 cars could win it and Lewis just managed to hold on. There wasn't much action going on throughout the field and was probably one of the worst Hungarain GPs of recent times for overall action but we have been spoiled in recent years.

#38 Gareth

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:03

My preferred option, not reflected in the poll, is that I like a mix of races. I prefer races where it's about pace and overtaking. But I think there is a place on the calender for tracks that produce more strategy/defensive driving driven results. I would like a calender with a lot more of the former than the latter, but I'm happy to see the latter mixed in.

#39 F1ultimate

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:06

Occasionally its great with dry races where drivers go head to head on ability to drive as opposed being at the mercy of tyres or a rain lottery.

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#40 montoyasminion

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:09

I thought it was very exciting watching to see if Kimi could pull out a big enough gap. Racing the way it's meant to be imo.

#41 kosmos

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:09

With live timing is everything 100% more awesome.

#42 Wifey

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:14

Oh no my fav driver/team didn't win or make progress through the race! Lets make a thread about how boring the race was because Hamilton won!!

This was was good not because there was a ton of overtaking but because if Hamilton or mclaren made a mistake Kim/ gro would have won therefore if you supported mclaren or lotus this was one very tense race and provided a stress factor because we just didn't know who was going to win!!

Imo anyway :)

Edited by Wifey, 31 July 2012 - 10:16.


#43 Jon83

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:18

I've never liked this circuit.


#44 slideways

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:22

"It was OK except the fake overtaking aid wasn't calibrated correctly."

:lol:

#45 Disgrace

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:24

With live timing is everything 100% more awesome.


:up:

It's races like these that make live timing.

#46 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:28

Isn't this the same poll as the "one for the purists" thread?

#47 PorcupineTroy

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:10

Great to see such an unbiased, well-written OP.

#48 Massa_f1

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:25

No i do not enjoy watching races like last weekends Hungarian GP. It was one of them races when a car gets with in 1 second of the car in front nothing can be done. It was boring from start to finish. Reminded me of 2009/2010 races.

We have been spoiled a bit this year with overtakes. So in the defense of the race it made is same extra boring.

#49 InvertedLift

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:30

All autosport polls should come with a default 'Lewis Hamilton' option attached, it would give far better results for the rest of the questions.

Crap race imo, it seems amazing but Valencia is going to be better than quite a few races this year.

#50 Peat

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 13:08

Can't say i found it particually boring other than laps 2 through 16 before the stops.

I was watching the live timing too, keeping an eye on who was doing what. Seeing Kimi suddenly light the board up with Purple was brilliant.

With Live Timing, no race is boring. If you sit there, vacantly waiting to be spoonfed entertainment, then you deserve to feel bored.....